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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19770322RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves A regular meeting of the Historical Preservation Committee was held at 1:00 on March 22, 1977 in the Council Chambers of City Hall. Those members present were Lary Groen, Norm Burns, Mona Frost, Florence Glidden, Terry End, Gaard Moses, and Tom Wells. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OLD BUSINESS NATIONAL REGISTER PLAQUES TENURE The minutes of the February 22nd meeting were reviewed, and Groen suggested several changes. Page 1, par. 4~ delete sentence on 3" bonus; page 2, par. 3, change delete to include add in the instead of from. Par. 4, Add border after 3" each time. Page 3, Par. 3, change the color to Rawhide. With these corrections, Burns moved to approve the minutes, seconded by Ms. Glidden. All in favor, motion carried. The minutes of the March 8th meeting were reviewed. Page 2, the eight trolleys were built in St. Louis in 1895. Par. 4; change placed in to using. With these corrections, Burns moved to approve the minutes, seconded by Ms. Glidden. All in favor, motion carried. The Sign Code Amendment Recommendation will be addressed at the next meeting. The members reviewed the suggestion by Stacy Standley to have the o~¢ners of the residences on the National Registe~ buy their own plaques. Moses feels this will almost totally negate the entire project. People will not participate in the project at their own expence. Burns suggested that we ask the City to buy their own plaque for the Wheeler Opera House and City Hall, and then ask the County to buy its own for the County Courthouse. The Historical Society could buy its own for the Stallard House, and that would leave the Community Church. The cost of each plaque will be abour $80-$85 each. Groen asked Moses if it would be possible to get a prototype of one of the plaques, but Moses feels that a rendering will be sufficient. The members do feel that the plaques should be uniform in appearance. The Historical Society uses plaques, but they are copper, not bronze. Moses stated that there was a man locally that was starting a foundry, and could possibly make these plaques cheaper than having them sent off to Denver. Groen feels that if the City and County purchase their own plaques, this will encourage the other owners to follow suit. The members did not generally agree with this. It was the feeling that some of the owners do not want these plaques displayed on the exterior of their residence or building, either because it would encourage people coming up to the house, or for vandalism reasons. Ms. Glidden has a plaque for her house, but does not display it on the outside for fear of having it stolen. This generated a discussion on some type of certificate that could be displayed on the interior of the building. The tenure of the members was discussed. There is some disagreement, as Burns stated the members were to be appointed for staggered terms, but the roster in the City Clerk's office lists the entire committee as being up for tenure in September 1977. The members were polled to see which ones would want to apply for re-appointment, and with the exception of Ms. Frost, all the members were affirmative. After some discussion whether Ms. Frost Historical Preservation Commiteee March 22, 1977 Regular Meeting NEW BUSINESS MILL STREET STATION COMMITTEE COMMENTS would re-apply or not was left in question. Moses stated that he serves on a committee with one of the P & Z members, Roger Hunt. Hunt feels that the HPC should be a little more selective in approving expansion of buildings. Moses feels that the Thallberg residence predicated this discussion. Hunt feels that owners and developers will expand to the maximum limit if allowed to do so. The feeling of this group was that the HPC is limited and restricted in their review and evaluation of projects as they have no control over FAR, etc. as the P & Z board does. The discussion once again came up on Architects and developers coming before this group with finished drawings in their pre-application. Such projects as the Floradora and the Thallberg were discussed. Nothing was submitted to the planning office, therefore this case will not be reviewed at this time. Burns asked about progress on the designation of the town site as historic. Stanford stated that he has worked out a map of the historic buildings, and Ramona Markalunas is helping with this project. Most of the West End and the Hallam Addition are included in this project. How this would work in with the Growth Management plan was discussed. There was some speculation as to whether or not the historic buildings would be exempt from the regulations through the GMP. Ms. Frost stated that the Hallam Addition was not originally a part of the City, that is where the county line was, so it should be stated that this designation would include "areas later added to the City Limits". Wells asked about the sign code amendments, as he came in late, and was not present at the meeting where this was discussed. Groen reviewed with him that Stanford has not completed the suggested Resolution with the amendments, and this will be reviewed at the next meeting. This was discussed with Wells at length, reviewing the suggested recommendations and the discussions that have taken place between these members on the subject. Groen asked the members if anyone had any feelings about lettering on awnings. The members did have a definite feeling about this when they reviewed the application by Chez Carlos, and when lettering is placed on an awning it is advertising. The measurement of sign area on an awning was discussed. Moses stated that the sign code should be kept as simple as possible, you could elaborate as much as you want, but you could not possibly cover everything you want in the code, and if you did, it would be so lengthy and confusing no one would know how to work with it. Ms. Frost discussed the status of the Georgetown court case on Historic Districts. The case was lost because of the weakness of the ground rules. Stanford should contact Ron Nealy to find out the details, and we should watch our upcoming proceedings closely to prevent this from happening to us in trying to designate the town site historic. The Shaw property in the West End was granted a subdivis- ion exemption, and the lots are being subdivided. The smaller ~hite house is being removed and a new house built on that site. The City Council has requested that the new structure come before HPC for review. This is one step towards the Architectural review type situation. RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Historical Preservation Committee March 22, 1977 Regular Meeting This was further discussed by the group, the implications of this directive from Council, how the group can function as a review type board, etc. The meeting adjourned at 2:20. Ellen L. Atkins, Deputy City Clerk