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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19761214RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves The regular meeting of the Historical Preservation Committee was held on December 14, 1976 at 1:00 in the City Council Chambers, City Hall. Those members present were Bob Marsh, Florence Glidden, Tom Wells, Gaard Moses, and Mona Frost. Norm Burns is acting chairman in Lary Groen's absence. Approval of minutes The minutes of the November 23rd meeting and the minutes of the special meeting on December 3rd were introduced. Marsh moved to approve theminutes, seconded by Wells. All in favor, motion carried. Old Business New Business Burns asked about the outcome of the proposed ex- tension of the historic district. This has been continued on to the 21st with the Planning and Zoning. Burns and Ms. Frost will not be present at that time, and there was some concern expressed by the members that a quorum would be present. This Friday at noon the P & Z will have a study session on this subject. Stanford told the members that at the last City Council meeting the City Manager was instructed to proceed with negotiatians with the Shaws for the two lots adjacent to the Wheeler Opera House, the Koch Lumber parcel, and a small triangle in the West End. Stan- ford gave the members some idea of the possibilities for use of the Koch Lumber building as an arts and crafts facility similiar to the Anderson Ranch, or a number of other things including space for the artists and sculptors to use. Chez Carlo Pitkin Center Carlo Buscemi, owner of the restaurant Chez Carlo, is present to represent his restaurant in their application to erect an awning over the entrance to the business. The business, located at 520 Cooper street in the Cooper Building, is set back from the sidewalk about 15ft. He is asking to erect the awning 8ft. from his doorway to the edge of the Fitzgerald Realestate office. He would like to have this canopy match the canopy that extends from the Molterer Sp~ts shop. This would attract attention to the restaurant since it is set back from the sidewalk so far. Wells does agree with the Planning office memo which states a concern for the "hodgepodge" it might create, but also feels this might soften that building a little. Considering the canopy in front of Molterer it might make it appear continious. This would be an addition to the exterior of the structure, and therefore re- quires a building permit. The members were not gener- ally agreeable to the plan, but would like to take a look at the exterior of the building before making a decision. Mr. Buscemi is agreeable to this. Burns suggested, in view of this, tabling this application until an inspection can be made. This is an application by Bill Clark, representing the owners of the five lots on Hyman and Hunter for the building of two seperate buildings on those lots. This is on the northwest corner of Hyman, where presen- tly the Casa Espresso and Cheap Shots are located. Mike Beacon of Benedict Associates is the architect. Mr. Clark discussed the conceptual plans with the members, and expressed that the plans are very pre- City Hall Pre-application review liminary at this point. The project will be developed in stages encompassing all five lots on the South side of Hyman, expanding from the Gargoyle Building to the corner.On the three inside there are'now various businesses, with the other two remaining lots for parking. On the corner of Hyman and Hunter it is hoped to have a bank called the Pitkin County Bank and Trust. They will not know until this summer whether they will be able to establish such a facility. The building will be larger than the other two banks. Mr. Clark just wants to get input from this committee as to what is proposed for this area. He presented to the members an illustration of the plan. What they are trying to achieve is the bank impression in brick. The entrance will be from the Hunter Street side, in the bank stepping into a two story lobby with mezzinine around the second story. The second story would be corbeled brick. The windows proposed on the second floor would house a restaurant, and Burns stated that the windows should follow a vertical pattern. The five lots will be split up, with the bank on the corner and they will want to save the large spruce that is already there. The building would be set back from the sidewalk, and would give the "plaza" effect. The building housing the bank and restaurant would be three stories altogether. Parking would be in the rear. The estimated max- imum height is 34', FAR is 1½-1. The building will have 3900 ft. of open space. The members reviewed the proposed plans carefully. Burns stated that the East elevation has a massive appearance, 44' wide by 80' long. Wells feels it is quitely elegant. The general feeling of the members was that the idea of breaking up the entire five lots into two or more different buildings is one of the assets of the proposal. Clark stated that they have also considered plans for some type of covered stairwell or sidewalk at the rear of the building, and the committee did not seem to have any problem with that. The building that is being built on Hopkins and Hunter was dis- cussed, as it will also have a lot of open space, and possibly the two buildings could work together. This might help eliminate the feeling of having a solid brick wall. The members discussed various ways the plans could be altered and improvements made. The general feeling was that the massing needs more work, but the plans have a good start. The applicant will return on January llth. Chick Collins and Greg Cole are present to review the plans for the third floor renovation of City Hall. Also present is Tom Jones of the Engineering Office. Last Wednesday the chairman of this committee Lary Groen, the City Manager, Mr. Collins and Mr. Cole got together to go over the proposal, as it had been denied when it first came before this committee. Cole reviewed the concerns of the HPC as listed at their last meeting. RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Historical Preservation Committee December 14, 1976 Regular meeting City Hall Pre-application review The windows on the East facade had been one of the concerns of the committee. Cole presented photos of the present windows on t he East facade and stated that this will be used as a model. Cole reviewed the plans for the exterior windows on the building. The standing rib roof is being proposed as the roofing material. The church across the alley has metal shingles, and this is also being considered. The roof will not be put on at this point. The dormers that are being put on were discussed, and Burns stated that the committee just wanted to make sure the dormers are of the same finished material as the new roof. Cole stated that they will be done when the roof is put on. The eave was discussed, and Cole again pre- sented pictures to the committee of the existing conditions. He stated that there was going to be some problem with the second floor walls, and there will be a horizontal line across the windows, but the window will look the same. The windows outside the City Manager's office are like that now. There will be three windows below the dormers on the North side. The problem of the eave was further discussed among the members and Cole feels that there is a problem with the soft brick and water runoff, but because of the open space he would recommend an eave coming down. The basement where the Police Department will be housed was discussed. The concrete used outside this will be low absorption brick. They will try to match the brick that is already there. Cole would recommend, in case that is not possible, a textured type of concrete. The windows at that below grade level were discussed, and the members expressed concern over ice coming off the roof and breaking glass. The wood will also have to be of some type of vinyl seal. The eave will have to have a very sharp edge so that there is a minimum buildup of ice. Burns stated that in the old pictures of City Hall there is no eave, and he doesn't feel we should push having one on the other side if it isn't feasible. Mr. Collins suggested the possibility of having a gutter run along the edge of the roof. Burns suggested several conditions under which approval might be granted: 1) the dormers have to be re-done to match the finished roof 2) the en- trance on the south side should be a brick structure that matches the building,and the temporary structure removed. With these conditions, Wells moved to approve the application as presented for the dormers, and skylight, forthe purpose of pre-application approval and so that a public hearing may be scheduled. Ms. Glidden sec- onded this motion. All were in favor, motion carried. The public hearing will be scheduled for the meeting on January llth at 1:00. JEROME HOTEL Thallberg: Schoenberg Residence Pre-application The Jerome Hotel withdrew until further consultation their application last evening at the City Council meeting. This committee has followed the development of the plans for this extension closely. They feel it would be best to simply wait to see what develops on this project. approval This project is scheduled for public hearing on January llth also. Only minor changes have been HISTORICAL PRESERVATION COMMITTEE Regular Meeting December 14, 1976 made in the dormer windows. The building now has more ins and outs that pretty well match the building next door, the Gypsy Woman. The members are very pleased with the plans and design. Wells moved to approve the plans as submitted for pre-application review so that a public hearing may be scheduled. A public hearing will be held January llth. Marsh seconded this motion. All were in favor, motion carried. The meeting adjourned for the on-site inspection of Chez Carlo. (3:10). Chez Carlo on-site inspection Tom Wells, Bob Marsh, Norm Burns, Florence Glidden and Gaard Moses performed an on-site inspection of the Chez Carlo Restaurant. There were several con- ditions set forth by the committee 1) that the canopy be of the color and shape of the existing canopy over the Molterer Sports Store 2) if a name is used on the canopy, the existing sign be taken down 3)this approval is for Chez Carlo only, and the canopy must be taken down in the event the restaurant changes hands. With these conditions Wells moved to approve the application, seconded by Marsh. All in favor, motion carried. A public hearing will be set on January 11, 1976. Ellen L. Atkins, Deputy City Clerk