HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19761026RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
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The regular meeting of the Historical Preservation Committee was held at
1:00, Tuesday, October 26th, 1976, in the City Council Chambers, City Hall,
Aspen, Colorado. Those members present were Lary Groen, Norm Burns, Gaard
Moses, Bob Marsh, Jerry Michael, Mona Frost, and Tom Wells.
Approval of minutes
Old Business
Arthur's Restaurant
Final Approval
La Tortue
Pre-application
Chairman Groen called for a motion
the minutes of the 12th, 19th, and
Marsh so moved, seconded by Burns.
motion carried.
to approve
28th meetings.
Ail in favor,
Groen suggested moving on to the project review
section of the Agenda.
Welton Anderson, once again representing Arthur's
Restaurant in their application for expansion, went
over the final plans with the members. With the
expansion and deletion of certain areas, the total
floor space will be 2196 sq. ft. The seating
capacity has been increased by thirteen people.
The old outhouse in front of the building was dis-
cussed at length by the members. The question of
its historic significance and whether it could be
moved, and still remain historic was discussed.
The mirror coating on the windows is going to be
removed. Groen then opened the public hearing.
There were no public comments.
Burns moved to give final approval of the application
as presented. This was seconded by Marsh, all in
favor, motion carried.
A discussion about the old outhouse was held among
the members. Ms. Frost recommends removing the
structure and so moved. Burns seconded this motion.
All in favor, motion carried.
Stanford of the Planning Office gave the presentation
as there was no one to represent the applicant. The
asst. manager of La Tortue, Mrs. Hicks was present
to answer questions. Stanford explained how the
proposed extension would bring the building right
up to where Acapulco Gold is now, and would cut out
one of their windows, and make the entrance into the
restaurant a narrow hall effect. This proposal has
been denied once before by this committee due to a
lack of detailed plans. Stanford still feels that
the plans being presented are inadequate, and do not
show the expansion in relation to the adjacent
buildings. Clayton Meyring feels that the distance
between the Chuck Wagon and the proposed expansion
meets the open space requirement. The expansion is
not really being proposed by La Tortue, but by the
owner, Arthur Hyde. The planning office feels that
there is a negative effect on the surrounding area
by this proposal. The Planning Office recommends
denial on the inaccuracy of the drawings and because
of their feeling that it would have a negative im-
pact on the environment. The committee would like
to see a rendering of this addition in relation to
the other buildings. Marsh moved to deny application,
seconded by Ms. Frost. All in favor.
Burns suggested also possibly presenting photos if
Aspen Book Store
Pre-application
Jerome Hotel
discussion
re-apply to this committee. The subject of this
not actually being an extension of the business of
La Tortue, but in reality an extension of the prop-
erty of Arthur C. Hyde was discussed. Wells suggested
relabeling this as such. All were in favor.
There was a motion to add the Aspen Book Store to
the agenda by Norm Burns.
Michael McVoy, owner of the Aspen Book Store was
present to go over the proposal for a change in the
entrance of the Mill Street Station, and moving the
doors into the entrance by the book store. McVoy
stated that actually this would be going back to
the original design which had been changed by the
owner, DeeDee Brinkman when she added the double
stained glass doors. The double doors create a
problem during the winter for the flower shop in that
arcade space. The doors will be replaced with a
large window with entrances on either side. The
planning office would rather see more of a verticle
fenestration effect in the mullions of the doors, but
this was not made as a stipulation. However, this was
discussed by the members, and McVoy stated that they
could go to the verticle if necessary. Groen brought
up the question of exterior lighting. There will be
some lighting, but McVoy is not certain what type
as yet. On the northeast side it could possibly go
under the sidewalk covering. Theywill need adequate
lighting, but final plans are pending. Stanford
stated that the planning office does not have a prob-
lem with the concept.
Burns moved to give pre-application and final
approval of the plans as presented. Seconded by
Michaels. All in favor.
The proposal that is going to be made is to increase
the room capacity of the hotel from the existing 33
rooms to 100 rooms. The planning office, in dis-
cussing the project with John Gilmore, suggested that
the project be handled under the PUD. He also stated
that they wanted to include the back lots of the hotel
in the historic designation. There was a discussion
of a possible change from the "0 Office District" to
the Commercial Core. The relation of the new addition
brick and matehinq it as clOs~yto the original brick
as possible was discussed. The brick adds to the
historic significance of the building. The additions
did not present that much of an effect from the Main
Street view point. Jerry McCarthy was present to go
over the proposal with this committee. McCarthy feels
that the owner, John Gilmore, is very sympathetic with
the historic, grand atmosphere of the old hotel, and
will strive to revive and preserve it as much as
possible. The area behind the lobby will flow into
a larger lounge and there will be an area for
relaxed congregation. The area where the employees
rooms are will be coming down. The approximate
completition date would be at least a year and half.
There wou~d be almost a total renovation of the
building itself. There has been an amendment to the
building code to give the building inspector power
to make adjustments for buildings that are designated
historic. Gilmore should submit a request for this
type of designation. The problem is that the proposal
is one story above code requirements. Stanford stated
the only problem was the blocking of the view to Red
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Historical Preservation Committee Regular Meeting
October 26, 1976
Old Business
Potential Areas for
Historic Designation
New Business
Proposed Teen Center
Mountain from Main Street. Michaels questioned how
Gilmore had gotten around the parking space requirement
forthis type of facility. The problem of parking and
influx of cars was argued at length by the group.
This is indeed going to be a major project, and it
will probably come before this group again on an in-
formal basis as it is felt this will have a great deal
of impact on the area surrounding it.
Stanford reviewed the Resolution of the HPC, and that
the P & Z has not as yet dealt with it in expanding
the Historic District. He is hoping that this will
come up at their meeting this evening. Stanford
reviewed the proposed area between Original and
Garmisch. The two Victorian houses that are in
jeporardy of being moved were discussed, and Moses
stated that the owner of those houses was in town last
week, and there is very definitely an emminent danger
of those houses being moved. He asked if they were
moved out of the Historical District, could they still
be designated individually. The subiect of having
in the historical district was discussed. Wells was
very concerned about this, and yet Burns stated that
there are very specific criteria set forth in the
code, which the City very rarely seems to adhere to.
This was argued by the members at length. It was
suggested that either Clayton or John should, at the
time drawings are presented to them to be put on the
agenda or considered by the HPC, review the criteria,
and make sure that the applicants presentation meets
the standard of criteria that exists for this comm-
ission. The area where the proposed expansion for
the Hyde property is not at its best right now, even
though it does have potential. The controls over our
environment must be strengthened to make sure that
what we get in the way of progress is of high quality,
with a great deal of thought and planning.
Groen asked Stanford if he had any further information
on the proposed Teen Center. If any exterior re-
modeling is being done they should be routed through
this committee. It was stated that it has been
requested through Mahoney that this be done, and Groen
is asking Stanford to follow through on this.
Burns moved to adjourn, seconded by Michael.
The meeting adjourned at 3:15.
Ellen L. Atkins, Secretary to HPC