HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19761012RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
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The regular meeting of the Historical Preservation Committee was held on
October 12th, 1976, at 1:00 in the City Council Chambers, City Hall, Aspen,
Colorado. Those members present were Florence Glidden, Gaard Moses, Norm
Burns, and Larry Groen. Also present was John Stanford of the Planning
Office.
Approval of Minutes
The minutes of the September 28th meeting were not
available, and will be submitted at the next meeting.
Old Business
Draft Resolution
Fisher Residence request
for Historic Designation
Project Review-Pre-App.
Sporthaus Linder
Groen stated that there was scheduled a joint public
hearing with the P & Z to discuss the designation of
the Shoenberg and Therese David Residences on Tuesday
the 19th at 5:00 in the evening. Also to be discussed
are the amendments to the guidelines, which Stanford
asked to be discussed at the next meeting. The Reso-
lution for the Fisher residence was discussed. When
the HPC has a request for Historic Designation from
the owner, it is a very combersome procedure to go
through, as it requires first a resolution from the
HPC, then it requires a public hearing for preliminary
approval by the P & Z, followed by the public hearing
and recommendation to Council. The Council has to
have two readings of the Ordinance and a public
hearing. From an administrative standpoint this is
very cumbersome. Therefore, there is a draft of a
change to the zoning code historic section which would
streamline this procedure whereby a recommendation ~_
from the HPC would go directly to Council and would
bypass the P & Z. This would be specifically for in-
ividual request for the historic designation. Stanford
stated that he would like to see the Fisher Residence
be the first to be acted on by the HPC in the new
procedure. This amendment would require two 15 day
public notices. The HPC is concerned about this time
lapse, as the application has been pending for the
Fisher residence for some time now. This application
could then ride along with the zoning change, as both
have to go to P & Z. Stanford asked if this could be
added to the agenda. Burns so moved, seconded by
Ms. Glidden, all in favor, motion carried.
Stanford went over the contents of the packet includ-
ing the documentation substantiating historical aspect
of the Fisher Residence, and the fact that this is the
home of Harold Ross, founder of the New Yorker Mag-
azine. The Planning Office recommends HPC approval
of this application. Ms. Glidden so moved, seconded
by Burns, all in favor, motion carried.
Groen asked if after this is finally approved, a
copy of the request and the committee's action might
be sent to the New Yorker Magazine. This was gen-
erally accepted. The subject of a plaque showing
this designation was discussed, but it was felt that
these would not last. Moses stated that the plaques
could possibly be fastened with expanding bolts for
an estimated cost of $100. Stanford voluntered to
check into this.
This is a proposal to enclose the balcony of Amelia's.
Pre-application review
Little Victorian's
Commercial Core Historic
District Expansion
a beauty shop over the Sporthaus Linder. They want
to enclose this with a lean-to type structure out of
glass to create a greenhouse atmosphere. The Planning
Office does not feel that this interferes with the
architectural integrity of the building. The depth of
the balcony presently is 3'6". Groen asked if this
would become commercially usable space, or will hair
dryers or chairs or other type of business equipment
be placed in that area. Joseph Zanin ,representing
Amelias, stated that they were only trying to solve the
roof problem, not enlarge the business area. Stanford
stated that he felt this would improve the looks of the
building, and the building itself is not an historic
building. The concern is the lighting inside this
extension. Groen asked if this was approved, would it
be likley that this committee would be confronted with
restaurant applications to do similar. He doesn't
want to see glassed in balconies all over town. The
drawings are only preliminary, and the committee would
like to see something more detailed, such as electrical
wiring drawings and all. Groen asked if any of the
members would require an on-site inspection prior to
approval or action, this was declined. The glass will
be openable, about 4" on the top and ridge. Stanford
asked if the committee wanted to grant pre-application
approval or approval with public hearing. Groen relayed
that the Planning Office had requested that the gla~be
clear or tinted, nor reflective material and that the
metal frame work be bronze or corten steel- rather
that silver or aluminum. The only neighbors that will
be effected are Tom Mix and the Wheeler. Groen feels
that this is really a major change in the building
facade. Burns feels that this necessitates a public
hearing and feels that some of the adjacent people may
object to this change. They discussed how this was
going to correct the water drainage problem off of the
flat roof. Burns moved that this go for final
application approval after public hearing, seconded by
Ms. Glidden. All in favor, motion carried.
Michael Horn represented the application, and went
over the proposed changes with the committee. There is
a stairway that comes up to a railing on the back, north
east side of the building, and the application is to
extend out over the back into a deck. This would be
accessible through the Second floor. Horn also
stated that he wanted to paint these buildings, and
he was informed that the Planning Office could offer
suggestions and has a book of authentic Victorian
colors. Horn also suggested possibly building a deck
of a small type where there are double glass doors on
the second floor that open into nothing and this would
have a cover over it. The committee could see no
problem with this. Burns moved to give pre-application
and final approval of the deck on the north-east corner
of the building and railing. Ms. Glidden seconded,all
in favor, motion carried.
Stanford stated that the present district lines are
largely an area which contains the largest amount
of concentrated buildings in the area, and corresponded
closely with the commercial core. There are areas
adjacent to the commercial core tha~ contribute to the
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Regular Meeting Historical Preservation Committee Oct.12, 1976
COMMITTEE COMMENTS
Hickory House
overall Victorian character. There is a possibility
to expand the commercial core Historic District. ~h~s
would be in areas where there is a character and his-
toric structures exist. There are very fragile areas
that are a block out of the commercial core area. When
the first commercial core district was done, Stanford
stated that they did not extend beyond that area because
it was felt this would weaken their case. However, at
this time it is believed that if it is not extended there
are some areas that would come under demolition. Hyman
and Hopkins streets, east of Hunter are one of the areas
in question, and the area of the backhalf of the Jerome.
Also, Stanford stated that it would be necessary to
make some type of inventory of the structures that would
need protection. Ms. Glidden asked if there would be
a letter to council asking for this. HPC would have to
make the commitment that it felt this was in the comm-
unities interest to pursue this extension of designation.
This would be contigious withthe present area. Even
though they would be different districts, the basic
guidelines would be the same. Stanford stated that he
would have further information on this by~/the next
meeting. Groen feels that Council should be very
sympathetic towards this project, but Burns feels that
P & Z would be the obstacle to overcome.
Groen asked what the status is of the project to be
built next to the Hickory House. Stanford stated that
they have received their building permit, and is now
seeking financing. He does not know if this includes
the demolition permit, but it does hinge partially on
the Smith's selling their house. A demolition permit
cannot be issued by the building inspector until it
comes before HPC, unless it has already been issued.
Groen would like to find out the status of this.
Groen asked about the Herron Apartments on Main Street
across from the Floradora, and wanted to know what is
being done with the porch in the front. Stanford stated
that they were replacing rotten timbers, and it will be
replaced exactly as before. Groen asked if horse
corrals were allowed on Bleeker Street. Burns stated
that there is a horse corral behind the Nugget Lodge.
This should be investigated.
Groen thanked the HPC Committee for keeping things going
while he and Norm were out of town. Burns stated that
when the meeting on Arthur's was held it was understood
that Shoenberg and Therese David's was on the agenda
that evening also, but Stanford stated that this had
been published for expediency sake. The public hearing
was postponed to this coming meeting, Tuesday, Oct. 19th.
Arthur's
The progress of Arthur's was questioned. Burns stated
that it was his understanding that Arthurs, in order
to meet their parking requirements, were negotiating
with Aspen Reservations for space. Burns asked if it
would be appropriate to ask at the Public Hearing that
approval be granted without those extra two spaces.
This could possibly cause problems when the full staff
of Aspen Reservations returns for the winter.
Ms. Glidden moved to adjourn. The next meeting will
be the 26th, however there is a joint meeting on the
19th with P & Z All in favor, motion carried.
The meeting adjourned at 2:20.
Ellen L. Atkins, Secretary