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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19760713RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves The Regular meeting of the Historic Preservation Committee was held at 1:00 on Tuesday, July 13, 1976 in the City Council Chambers. Those members present were Chairman Lary ~roen, Norm Burns, Florence Glidden, Mona Frost, and Bob Marsh. Approve Minutes Old Business New Business Main Street Historic District The minutes of the June 22nd meeting were approved with one correction; page 1, paragraph 3, to read "...tentative'! under the Floradora pre-application. Burns moved to approve the minutes, seconded by Glidden. All in favor. ~otion carried. Groen asked about the status of the HPC alternates, which were to have been interviewed prior to the regular City Council Meeting the 12th. These applicants were not inter- viewed due to the fact that two are out of town. This will be done at the next Council meeting. Groen mentioned that he noticed they had started painting the antique lights, even though they are not the color selected. It is a little lighter and pinker than the Tahitian Tan the committee selected. Stanford reported that the City Council had followed throug~ on the designation of the Floradora and Mesa Store Bakery as historical sites. These two structures plus th~ corner of 7th & Main are designated as Historic. A~plications are in for two other buildings, 125 W. Main (Lary and Norm's) and Arthur's Restaurant to be historically designated. Asked for HPC to make a recommendation to place another item on the Agenda, that being the drafting of a Resolution recommending the Historic Designation of 125 W. Main and Arthur's Restaurant. Went over the forms for the consent of property owners for historic designation. Also went over the background information obtained on each building, such as title search, tax assessor records, Sanford & Son map. Ms. Frost so moved, and Burns seconded. All in favor, motion carried. The content of this Resolution is to recommend that these buildings be considered as part of the Historic Designation. There was a motion to draft this resolution by Ms. Frost, seconded by Burns. All in favor, motion carried. Stanford went over the forms included in the packet, a letter from the Chairman of the HPC explaining the pursuit of the designation of ~ain Street as a Historic District. The effects of the Historic Designation for property owners is included, and a letter of reply to be sent in by the property owners. The date of the Public Hearing will be added when this is decided. Then the Resolution recom- mending the Historic District to the Planning and Zoning Commission. Stanford went over the maps of the area to be pursued in designating the Main Street Historic District. Each building is taken separately, and there are three divisions, 1881 to 1900, 1901 to 1941, and 1941 to present. The main street lodges cannot add Restaurants at will. Historic ~u~ldings can utilie ~ne-- "conditional use~ which means tha~ for any changes t~ey must go before the Planning and Zoning Commission. Stanford also went into the dif- ferent types of materials used in the buildings. There are three considerations used in determining designation, historical significance, architectural significance, and physical condition of each building. The historic sig- nificance was further explained to be either National~ State or local significance. Mostly, the buildings are strictly local significance. There is a rating structure Floradora Pre-Application Mrs, Papeke Dr. Comcowich of "o", no importance; "1" moderate importance; "2" significant importance; and "3" exceptional importance. The extent of modification to the original design is also considered under architectural. The physical also relates not just to the building, but to the grounds around it and to the neighborhood as a whole. After the Planning and Zoning Commission gives their approval for the recommendation of designation, then a Public Hearing will be set. The letter of reply will then be mailed out to all property owners on Main Street. Ms. Frost stated that she had one recommendation on the consent for historic designation, there should also be a place on the letter for not giving consent. This was generally accepted to by the committee members. There was one change on the proposed zoning change, from professional business offices to read "...professional and business offices". Stanford asked the committee members to ask themselves if they were confident enough in the historic designation process to give the recommendation for the Resolution. It was the general consensus among the committee members that the process has come this far, don't stop now. Groen brought up one part of the map that designates the area by Papeke Park, but the letter stated that it stopped at the alley, and this should be clarified. The committee would like to see it taken to include the park. Ms. Frost asked about the status of having the name Garmish changed to Center street, and Groen stated that possibly after having it historically designated this process will be much easier. Chairman Groen asked for a motion to request City Council to consider the two properties, 125 W. Main and Arthur's Restaurant as historic designated buildings. Marsh so moved, seconded by Ms. Glidden. All in favor, motion carried. Chairman Groen asked for a motion to request approval of the Resolution on Main Street Historic District. Burns so moved, and Marsh seconded. All in favor, motion carried. Stanford presented Rus Pielstick, representing the owners of the Floradora, and reviewed the process that has taken place up to now. Pielstick has appeared before this committee previously, and upon their recommendation has worked up three additional sketches of the proposed ex- pansion of the Floradora. One of these sketches is with the recession of the facade connecting the two elements. The other two sketches were trying to incorporate a more modern type of element in the building addition. Spoke at this point, and strongly advocated trying to restore the building as it once was. She pointed out that the first sketch that was presented is almost identical to the building that originallystood there. She is a past owner of this property and is very concerned about the development of this property. She went over the background of the property and the development of the zoning in this area. She is strongly opposed to the other two contempora~ sketches and feels they are "pseudo" type of art. She does not feel that a marriage between the contemporary and the Victorian can be achieved in the same building. If it was two separate buildings, possibly but not in the same building. In Williamsburg, houses have been authentically reconstructed very successfully. Is the owner of the building next to the Floradora, and totally agreed with everything Mrs. Papeke stated. He personally feels that it would be nice to be next to a building as well done as the original sketch. Feels that the other sketches would detract from both buildings. RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Historic Preservation Co~mittee Regular Meeting July 1~, 1976 J. Baxter The owner of the building across the street from the Floradora. Stated that in looking out across the street from him he sees the Victorians, and this is beautiful. He knows if Helmuthdoes this, it will be something we can all be proud of. Would recommend the first plan as blend- ing in well with the atmosphere of Main Street. Jessie Morris Owner of the blue Victorian across from the Floradora, and strongly urged keeping the architecutre in the atmos- phere of the victorians. Rus Pielstick stated that they had tried very hard to come up with an alternate plan that would blend in well with the other buildings, such as Dr. Comcowich's and the blue victorian. Groen asked if the buildings do have to be tied together, and Pielstick went over the fact that they are below the minimum lot area for a separate structure. Groen reiterated that it was the general feeli~ of the committee that in having this all one structure would create such a large mass as to over dominate the entire Main Street area. The committee was concerned about this, and felt the visual break in the buildings without the actual separation would help. Groen brought up the suggestion of cutting down in scale, the original building that was removed from here was much smaller. Mrs. Papeke suggested possibly cutting down one story in the middle connecting part. Stanford spoke briefly, and stated the feelings of the Planning and Zoning office. If you cannot achieve a marriage of two types of architecture, which he feels can be done, then go authentic, the Williamsburg route. Ms. Papeke was very emphatic about the sketches showing the contemporary additions to the Victorian and feels that they are nothing, they are bastard madernal. Groen suggested possibly using contrasting colors attractively to create the visual aspect of being separated. Mr. Piel- stick stated that considering Dr. Comcowich's building and the remaining Ploradora, he cannot comfortably put a modern structure inbetween the two. Burns suggested having Pielstick build a model of the Floradora, with a partition that could be removed. Possibly, also a study session could be held to work out some of these problems. Mill Street Playground and Public Restrooms Tony Coleman~ architect for the mall, presented a model of the restrooms and playground proposed for the Mill Street area. This will be in the area between Golden Horn, Wagner Park and R.Pea's. Coleman showed the members how the playground flows from the mall area, with the burm going right up to the toilets and being covered with grass. Related that the playground had been designed with Federal Regulations in mind as well as State Safety Standards. The wood that will be used is non-splintering, the inside of the toilets will be masonary and easily maintained. There will be a drinking fountain and tele- phones. Ms. Frost asked about liability in the park area, and Coleman stated that if the accident was due to faulty equipment, then yes the City would be liable. That's why the equipment is being carefully chosen. The outside of the toilets will be a panabode type effect, and the wood will weather to a slate gray. Groen asked how the wood plock paving would hold up under weather, and Coleman Aspen Sports Pre-Application stated that this has been taken into consideration. There have been smaller machines ordered for maintenance on this smaller level such as in the mall also, and a rubber blade will be used to pack down the snow for walking, rather than trying to remove it all. There will be low level lighting all along the street. There was concern also by the committee members about people climbing on top of the toilets, and Coleman stated that this also had been taken into consideration, and there will be a metal edge around the top of the building about 1" high. The only access to the sports podium is through the inside of the tool shed. Groen asked if the roof could be designed for public use, and Coleman stated that this had been con- sidered, but it would be entirely too expensive. Groen asked about public activities taking place in this area, and Coleman stated that Council doesn't want to advocate that much activity in this area such as concerts, etc, and use the Sinclair area for this type of thing. There will be Aspen trees and lower Evergreens in this area, the Evergreens togive it some green effect during the winter. A reputable playground building company from Denver will be doing the building according to Federal regulations. Groen asked that the committee give approval, pending the submission of the plans, which Coleman stated would be submitted immediately. Burns went over the procedure for submitting these and the reason being that in this way the committee can verify that the materials and plans are the same as Mr. Coleman is presenting at this time. Burns motio~ned~forconditional approval,~pending Coleman submitting the plans, and information about the building permit. Ms. Frost seconded, all in favor, motion carried. Mr. Sam Caudill has submitted an application for the addition of a second story to the Aspen Sports building. Stanford passed out plans to the members, showing detailed elevations. Plaster will be used on the outside walls, and the balcony sits back 4'. He went over the view plain criteria. Showed how the stucco design fits in with Guido's Swiss Inn, but the committee members were concerned that this white stucco will stick out because the base of the building is brick. Possibly, either it can be closely matched with the brick of the bottom part, or be painted an attractive, contrasting color. Groen asked for comments from the Planning representative, and Stanford stated that he has no problem with this, except for the color, as mentioned. He asked about the exposed side of the building and asked if a graphic of some type could be put here. Groen asked if they would be needing a larger sign, and Caudill stated not that he knew of. Groen asked about trash storage, and related that possibly, in the future there will be an Ordinance or some legislation passed to clear the alleyways, meaning that business would have to keep their trash within their building limits. Some type of trash storage should be planned. Possibly a compactor could be used. Stanford suggested possibly having a Public Hearing two weeks from this date. He explained to Mr. Caudill the fact that this is in the Historic District and this is in the interest of the general public, thereby necessitating a public hearing. The Public Notice will be published this Thursday, July 15, and then the Public Hearing will be scheduled for August 10, at 1:00 with the HPC. Ms. Glidden moved to adjourn the meeting, which was unamious. The meeting adjourned at 3:20. Ellen L. Atkins, Deputy City Clerk