HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19760511RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
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Regular Mee ting-
Historical Preservation Committee
May 11, 1976
Heeting was called to order by Chairman Lary Groen at 1:10 p.m.
Florence Glidden, Bob Marsh, Norm Burns and ~ona Frost present.
was John Stanford of the Planning Department.
with members
Also present
Approval of Minutes
Burns made a motion to approve the minutes of April 28,
1976; seconded by Glidden. All in favor, motion carried.
Public Hearing and
Final Application
La Cocina
Stanford explained the application which was a request
to build a restaurant west of the present La Cocina.
The applicant has received preliminary approval.
Stanford showed the drawings of the restaurant. The HPC
members were familar with the drawings since they had
already seen them when they granted preliminary approval.
The historic designation of the area in which the
restaurant is in the '~noteable' catagory. The planning
office recommends approval of the drawings.
Groen opened the public hearing on La Cocina. There
were no comments from the audience.
Motion
Frost moved to approve the final application for La Cocina;
seconded by Burns. All in favor, motion carried.
Public Hearing and
Final Application
Aspen Grove Building
(Wienerstube)
Stanford explained the Weinerstube building would like
to expand into the garden area. What is being proposed
is an improvement to the physical appearance of the
expansion. Stanford entered the drawings into the public
record. The design has a victorian look on the exterior
facade.
Molny requested for the owners the right to have a wood
facade facing Cooper Street Pier. The wood facade will
be horizontal.
Groen opened the public hearing. There were no comments
from the audience.
Molny entered the following letters from adjacent property
owerns into the record: Wienerstube Restaurant, written
by Gerhard W. Mayritsch, in favor of the remodeling;
McDonough's, written by Bill McDonough, in favor of the
remodeling; Pinocchio's, written by Douglas J. Hose and
Stephen R. Gehring, in favor of the remodeling; Young
Services, written by Barbara Young, in favor of the
remodeling; Fitzgerald Real Estate, written by R.P.
Fitzgerald, in favor of the remodeling; and Living
Color, Inc., written by Alan Pressman, in favor of the
remodeling.
Groen closed the public hearing.
Motion
Burns moved to approve the building as the plans that
were presented and dated May 10, 1976; seconded by Frost.
All in favor, motion carried.
Public Hearin~ and
Final Application
Carriage House
Stanford explained the carriage house is a request for an
addition on to the Stallard House Museum. The request
is being made by the Historical Society. The carriage
house has been granted preliminary approval. Th~o
building will be shifted west 5 feet and south ~eet
from what is shown on the drawing. The carriage house
would be for additional storage and a display place.
The exterior structure resembles the same materials that
were used for the Stallard House. The Planning Office
recommends approval.
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Public Hearing
Carriage House
Motion
Public Hearing and
Final Application
Demolition request
Groen opened the public hearing. There were no comments
from the public.
Frost moved to approve final approval for the Carriage
House; seconded by Burns. All in favor, motion carried.
Stanford explained this application as being a request
to demolish the two houses behind Bullocks those houses
being the brick and wood victorian houses on Hopkins
Street. Stanford entered into the record various drawings
which were interpretations of the planning that has gone
into the historic district. Stanford presented a land-
use map which was produced in the fall of 1974; also the
Historic Building Inventory in which all the historic
structures in the downtown area were placed in one of
three catagories. Stanford also presented the size cata-
gories in which the downtown structures were placed; and
the entire historic district which placed the buildings
into one of three areas catagorized as to the degree of
the building's historic character. The two buildings
being discussed were placedin the highest catagory of
historic character because all of the structures in the
area date back to the 1800's. Stanford also read into
the record the following letters: The first letter was
from Fritz Benedict which was not in favor of the demo-
lition. Benedict also had a model of the building made
which was an architectural solution as to how the building
could be used.
Stanford then read a letter from Ramona Markatunas which
was submitted into the record. The letter requested not
to demolish the brick house.
Groen read into the record a letter from the Aspen
Historical Society. The letter requested that the City
amend the Fire Code to reflect the conm~unity of Aspen.
Stanford mentioned the planning office has changed their
recommendation and requests demolition of the brick house
be denied. The planning department would also like to
see the wooden house retained also. However, because
the wooden house may not fit into the fire code and is
much less of an historic nature than the brick house,
the wooden structure would be allowed to be demolished.
Groen asked what the City was contemplating in respect
to changing or amending the present fire code. Stanford
had a memo from Art Hougland and Clayton Meyring in
reference ot the change in the present fire code. The
memo is a recommendation at this point.
Groen opened the public hearing for the demolition request.
Peter Van Domelen mentioned that he had spoken to the
Aspen Historical Society. Van Domelen offered to the
society materials from the wooden building that they
wanted to use for restoration in Ashcroft. The brick
building was also offered to the society in the case
they wish to locate it elsewhere. Van Domelen also
spoke to Goodheim, housing director, and asked if he
would have any use for the building. He did not.
Van Domelen had talked to builders and asked that they
look over the brick building and were advised that it
does not meet the electrical code, and does not meet
the plumbing code, the roof does not meet the fire code,
the footings do not meet the building code. The structure
would have to be brought up to the building code if there
is 50% or more of improvement based on the value of the
building. Thus the building becomes an economic inflex-
ibility from Van Domelen's clients standpoint.
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Regular Meeting
Historical Preservation Committee
May 11, 1976
Demolition Request
(Cont'd)
Motion
Old Business
New Business
Glidden questioned if it wouldn't be equally expensive
to bring the brick house up to code for a single family
dwelling as it would for a commercial building. Van
Domelen replied that the code applies if alterations
are done based upon a percent of the value. Also if
the use is not changed, there is a non-conforming use
and perhaps the use can be continued.
Groen asked Van Domelen if his client had plans for a
new structure on the brick building~J~an Domelen replied
that he had no plans for a structure. However,
Van Domelen's client would like to proceed as soon as
possible towards a new building. Marsh suggested to
the members to look at a preliminary plan before deciding
on anything. Burns agreed that a rough plan would be
a good idea.
Stanford mentioned the primary issue is if the existing
structures have sufficient value to merit what is being
saved. Marsh felt since the historical society felt
they had value to be saved, then they must. Stanford
felt the significance is in the whole area of the
strucutures; and if the structures were demolished it
would alter the area.
Groen closed the public hearing.
Marsh moved that in light of the fact that the applicant
has no plans for alternate use of the property at
present, that the demoliton request not be approved at
this time; seconded by Burns. All in favor, Frost
abstained. Motion carried.
Groen thanked Mary Hayes for the article which she wrote
in the "Times" about the older buildings in the
community.
Stanford mentioned the memo from Art Hougland and
Clayton Meyring on how to change the building code in
respect to the fire code in order to allow for retention
of wooden structures in fire zone one. Therefore each
application would come up for their own approval. It
would only pertain to buildings that have been designated
"historic".
Stanford mentioned that he is planning to come to a
meeting in the near future with a slide presentation
which will enable the HPC to look at the work that has
been done since the adoption of the historic district.
Motion
Burns moved to adjourn at 2:15 p.m.; seconded by Glidden.
Li~y M. ~Klym,
Clerk