HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19750606RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
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Special Meeting Historic Preservation June 6, 1975
Meeting was called to order by Chairman Lary Groen at 2:10 p.m. with members
Norm Burns, Florence Glidden, Mona Frost, Bob Marsh and Jerry Michaels present.
Also present was John Stanford of the Planning Office.
Wheeler Opera House
Groen opened the Special Meeting by explaining to members
the reason why there was a special meeting. The meeting
was scheduled because the previous week Chick Collins was
given approval to open the area below the sidewalks in front
of the Colorado Mountain College to light wells for
ventilation and light into the lower level of the Wheeler
Opera House. However, there were no plans submitted for
the records and there were no opinions from parties that
might be affected by this remodeling.
Steve Mills from the Colorado Mountain College came to
speak to the Committee about his feelings of having the area
below the sidewalks be reopened to light wells. Mills
asked Groen to clarify what action had been taken in terms
of the Wheeler Opera House. Groen told him that the
Committee had approved a request from Chick Collins to
open existing delivery spaces below the sidewalks; however,
at this meeting that motion may be decided to be rescinded.
Mills was opposed to having any kind of vent from the
basement operation through the wells, however if used for
lights only that would be another consideration. Mills
mentioned that it would be difficult to keep the wells
cleaned for that size of an opening just in terms of upkeep.
He also felt that the contents inside the Wheeler should
be given some consideration by the committee. He went on
to say that it would be unfeasible and totally impractable
for him to consider anything that impacts on the outside
of the building without considering what's going on in the
inside of the building. He wouldn't like to see the space
that does impact on the outside of the Colorado Mountain
College building to reflect the changes that are going on
in the basement. He felt that it was ridiculous to think
about the outside of the building when it's what's going
on in the inside which causes the problems. He expressed
that he would like to see either the Historical Society or
some other entity be more concerned directly with the
historic benefits of the Wheeler; being operators or
administrators of the building rather than the City. How-
ever, he mentioned that he didn't know the Committee's
constitutional charge or mandate that would reflect that.
Groen mentioned that the largest concern they have is to
get light and air into the basement and asked Mills if he
thought that by putting in the light wells with railings
if he would have a problem with his operation.
Mills told them that there is a problem of rain coming down
off the roof that could back up there; and a problem of
snow removal without encroachment on the sidewalk. Mills
also questioned that if one side of the building is blocked
off how can they get cross ventilation. Michaels didn't
see how that was going to work. Burns mentioned that if the
Thrift Shop and Colorado Mountain College were to relocate
no other shops would want to rent the space due to the
fact that there would be 42" guard rails in front of their
shop. Burns asked why the commission had not received a
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building permit; an approval for them to encroach upon City
property, which is outside of the building; and a normal
application form; and to go through the 15 day publication
required for every other job. Groen replied that it was
a minor thing.
Frost made a motion to make on onsite inspection of the
Wheeler Opera House, seconded by Michaels. All in favor,
motion carried.
Adjourned temporarily for an onsite inspection of the Wheele
Opera House.
Groen asked Collins if there would be a possibility that
this would have to get approval from City Council due to
the fact that it was going to encroach upon City property.
Groen mentioned the reason for the Special Meeting was
because the Thrift Shop and Colorado Mountain College if
they move from the site no other business would want to
move in due to the fact that there are guard rails 42"
high blocking their windows. It would be a detriment to
other businesses in the future. There already is a problem
in that area in the winter; the snow is pushed up against
all the vehicles parking there and the sidewalks are icy.
It would be creating a barrier in front of the only
commercially oriented space. Groen would like to get
approval from City Attorney Stuller and the Planning and
Zoning Commission to see if it would be an encroachment on
City property and thus requiring City Council's approval.
Groen suggested to make a motion to withdraw the motion
approving the light wells.
Marsh made a motion to withdraw the permission that the
Committee granted at the May 30, 1975 meeting, seconded
by Frost.
Groen enumerated points that the Commission wanted clarified
before granting permission for the extension of the guard
rails on the sidewalk, those being 1) check with Council
to see if they have to give approval for encroachment onto
the sidewalk and get an opinion from City Attorney Stuller
and the Building Department 2) this is not a desirable
thing as far as modification of building is concerned
3) there have been objections from two tenants from
organizations that will be affected by this modification
4) if considered again would like the full drawings and
details of exactly what would be done for records and
presentation
Ail in favor, motion carried.
.Collins asked if there was an appeal from the Board. There
was no appeal. He then asked how the members felt about
grading instead of a guard rail.
Groen polled the members feeling -- Glidden prefered a
grade, Marsh preferred a grade, Michaels preferred a grade
but would not vote for a grade, Frost preferred a grade.
Groen told Collins that he still has to go through the
channels which were outlined for him.
Groen asked Stanford if the Planning Department would make
a recommendation for the Wheeler Opera House. Stanford
said that they would, however he mentioned that there is
going to be a proposed sidewalk district which will be 8
feet sidewalks in the downtown area.
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Main Street Historic Groen mentioned that Stanford suggested that they don't
Zoning do the Main Street Historic Site due to the fact that
Stanford is going to take pictures and put a packet together
for them to study.
Ramona Markalunas told members that the Court House and
Community Church and Ashcroft had been entered on the
National Register of Historic Buildings.
Burns made a motion to adjourn the meeting and Marsh
seconded. All in favor, meeting adjourned at 3:30 p.m.
Elizabeth ~.' Kly~ Deputy City Clerk