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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19750411RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Regular Meeting Aspen Historic Preservation April 11, 1975 [eeting was called to order by Chiarman Lary Groen at 2:10 p.m. with members Norm ~urns, Terry End, Jerome Michael and Florence Glidden. Frost and Marsh were ~xcused. Also present was John Stanford~ City/County Planner. Comments from City/ Stanford noted that he couldn't stay the whole meeting but he County Planner wanted to comment on the routing procedure as it stands now. Clayton evidentally never saw the final plans until the final phase of the Aspen Arcades building and if any others come to the meeting, or are planning on coming for final approval, members might let them know that the Building Inspector has to see the plans for approval first then he instigates the review procedure. Stanford also wanted to have their approval on a letter that he had drafted to be sent to the people who had requested historic designation for their homes. Included in the letter would be a consent form. He noted that they would have the Historical Society working on the historical significance of each of the buildings. Michael questioned why Stanford was including the Ute City Banque since he thought they had included it in the historic core last week? Stanford noted that they had decided to give it designation alone in case national registry is asked for. Michael thought that the building should be changed to the H.P. Cowenhoven building. Michael also noted that the Aspen Arcades building was not historic but that the Pitkin County Dry Goods side could be considered more historic. Stanford said that they are giving the designation to the entire building on the assumption that if the building were sold, it would be sold as a whole. Approval of Minutes Burns noted that the minutes regarding the historic requests started abruptly and should be explained better so they don't have to wonder what the subject is. Michael moved to approve the minutes and Glidden seconded. All in favor, motion carried. Aspen Arcades - final Don Fleisher and his architect, Tom Wells, presented the final plans for the Aspen Arcades. Mr. Wells explained that they were trying to fit in with the predominently masonry block of buildings in that area of 400 South Galena. He stressed that they were using only existing materials already found in the block. He noted that they were planning on remodeling above the wood in the front of the building because they didn't think that the brick entablature was very attractive and even destroys the lines of the building. Instead they wanted to put something made of wood or metal in a more horizontal entablature. The first floor would remain mall and they were going to put in a skylight in the center of the building and also three in the entrance but none would be seen by people, it would just bring in some light. In terms of color, Fleisher explained that he didn't have final colors yet because he had hired an industrial designer out of California to handle the awnings, interior and exterior colors so it would be about six weeks before they knew what colors were chosen. Ms. End questioned what type of awnings they were having, would they be stationary? Wells said that they had discovered that the west side of the building had a sun problem and they hadn't resolved it yet but the industrial designer had suggested a white plastic or another solution could be retractable awnings. Wells went on to explain that they were trying to represent a qualified victorian structure and were going to put in some kind of -1- HPC 4-11-75 Motion Floradora Community Church - National Registry Cole rehiring Silverqueen reward Brand Building Log Cabin corbling effect. Burns moved to give final approval for these plans as presented with the applicant returning to the HPC for final approval on colors, graphics (signs) and awnings. Glidden seconded. Burns wanted to also include the fact that they have seen the final building plans at this meeting. Michael noted that he would have to abstain from voting. End questioned whether there should be any time element and Burns thought that should be the applicant's problem. Burns revised his motion that the HPC check after the colors have been submitted that the plans agree with what was presented at this meeting. Glidden seconded. All in favor, motion carried. Burns noted to applicant that as soon as the colors are available, they should give either Groen or himself a copy to check. Members discussed Stanford's discussion at a previous meeting about trying to get the owner of the Floradora to ask for "H" designation and then designate the two side lots, also. It was noted that Randy Woods owns the building now. Groen noted that they hadn't responded yet to the letter from the Church asking to be put on the National Registry if they hadn't already been so designated. Groen said that he would talk with Ramona Markalunas and find out what the HPC to help out the Church. Burns explained that they had been under the impression it was an automatic thing as soon as they were given historic designation under the City. Michael wanted to make a statement regarding the recent controversy over Greg Cole being rehired under a separate department. He said that he found it disturbing and thought Stanford was being undermined by this decision. He also didn't think that Mahoney shouldn't have allowed it to happen. Groen explained that the Mall Commission had a study session with Stanford and Mahoney to try and resolve the issue and evidentally it wasn't practical for Stanford to change his mind. They had protracted discussions and Mahoney suggested that Cole be kept on. Groen said that Cole was not working outside of the Planning Office and it was simply a change of paperwork. Groen stressed that the Mall Commission felt that they had too many plans that would have to be postponed while another planner was trained. Michael noted that if the relationship between Stanford and Cole had broken down while they were working together, then the chances are that they won't be able to work together now. Groen said that they left the decision to Mahoney and that at first the City Manager had supported Stanford but later he told John that he had to agree with the Mall Commission. Groen noted that Cole was only on a three month probation. Glidden questioned what would happen after the three months if something couldn't be worked out and Groen thought that it was just a worry of where the appropriation for the salary would come from. Groen noted that Mahoney would be bringing before Council a request for a reward of $5,000 for the return of the Silverqueen statue. No one showed for a presentation. Groen asked secretary to contact Mr. Baldwin and ask them to come before the HPC. Michael asked if they had any control over the sign on the Brand building but Groen noted that it was an existing sign so there was no HPC control over it. Groen said that the Centennial/BiCentennial Committee had asked him to present to the HPC and Mall Commission the idea of having a log cabin, presented to the C/BCC by Elizabeth -2- RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Regular Meeting Aspen Historic Preservation April 11, 1975 WS IA Dowes, somewhere in the historic core area. He noted that they would like it to be from seven to seven during the day, seven days a week, for perhaps a year starting in June. Groen noted that they had asked for an area such as the intersection of Galena and Cooper but Clayton Meyring was against that idea because they needed to have permanent johns for the public and that area couldn't accommodate any. Groen suggested having them close to the public johns in the mall and Clayton was agreable to that idea. Groen noted that he had told the C/BCC that he would have to defer to the decision made by the HPC and members asked that there be some kind of presentation after the plans have been made. Burns noted that he would contact Max Freeman and let him know what needs to be done to get the whole thing going. End moved to adjourn and Burns seconded. Ail in favor, meeting adjourned at 3:20 p.m. Susan B. Smith, Deputy City Clerk -3-