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Home My WebLink Aboutminutes.hpc.19741220RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Regular Meeting Historic Preservation Committee December 20~ 1974 Meeting was called to order by Chairman Lary Groen at 2:10 with members Terry End, Bob Marsh, Mona Frost and Norm Burns. Michaels and Glidden were excused. Also present were City Manager Mahoney~ City/County Planner Stanford and Greg Cole. APPROVAL OF MINUTES. Burns moved to approve the minutes of December 6, 1974 and Frost seconded. All in favor, motion carried. CITY MANAGER Enforcement Wanted to have clarified the actions taken by the members in regards to asking the Building Inspector to enforce condi- tions they had set for applicants. He said that the City Attorney's conclusions after reviewing Ordinance #5 of 1972 and Ordinance ~36 of 1973, were that they they did not have the power to approve or disapprove but simply to recommend to the Planning and Zoning Commission. Frost noted that the City Attorney had told them specifically that they did have this power. Mahoney said that he could see that they had a definite goal but that they were trying to achieve it too rapidly. He said that they do have historic sites but no district yet and unless they are addressing those historic sites~ they didn't have any authority. Burns said that all the cases they had asked Clayton to take care of had been during Ordinance 19 which had given them interim powers and they had simply been trying to follow through on the conditions they had set for the applicants who came to them. Specifically discussed was the yellow house on Hopkins that had had a porch built on without a building permit and the HPC had pointed this out to Clayton a year ago and he still had done nothing about it. Burns also noted that they had given Clayton the name of th~ henant and the owner but Clayton had allowed it to stay up illegally. They had.thbught that Clayton was concerned about it so they tried to help him. Mahoney didn't think they had any powers to ask for enforcement of the verbal agreements with Dee Dee Brinkman and Eugene Sylvestri for the Mill St. Station. Burns explained that these people had come in asking for their approval and they had given that approval conditional upon Ms. Brinkman painting the aluminum on her building, which she agreed to do, and Mr. Sylvestri was to change the mirrored glass to smoked glass in his restaurant, the Solarium. Neither had complied so they had called Clayton into a meeting and asked what could be done if the applicants didn't comply. Meyring said that he could withhold the certificate of occupancy on the Mill St. Station until the condition was met. The members found out at the last meeting that the building was about to receive the C.O. without meeting the stipulations. The City Manager asked if these people had been asked to come before them or if it had been given out as mandatory. Mr. Pielstick from the audience said that when he had come before them the Planning Office had said that he had to get their approval but it seemed as thought it was more of a courtesy than mandatory. This confirmed what the City Manager had said about them being a recommending body only but members felt that the agreements made should be upheld since the applicants had said they would comply. Antique Lights Mahoney noted that the only way to increase the brightness of the lights would be to increase the wattage but that would cause a lot of glare. He said that the problem was that the lights had been given to the City and they had had to work with many in disrepair. Groen asked if any more were going to be put in and Mahoney said that all the bases had been pored and they were just awaiting parts. -1- HPC 12-20-74 Wheeler Opera House John Stanford Resolution on Wheeler becoming a Performing Arts Center Motion Historic Core Mahoney said that he had met with Ramona Markalunas, John Stanford, Edgar Stanton and Edgar Stein in an arbitration over the Wheeler but they wouldn't know the final outcome for a couple of months. Mahoney said that Stanford was going to f~nd an architect to do some designs but that it was not ', ~ intent to change the building aesthetically. Until they got some designs, he thought that they should replace the door on the Anrapoy with the one bought by the City for the entrance. Burns questioned whether the $500,000 wouldn't cover the outside restoration, too, but Mahoney thought it too early to know for sure. Mr. Pielstick asked that the members consider a clause in the Ordinance on the historic core to include variances for old buildings that were being restored because he felt it would be difficult to make the Wheeler conform with 1975 standards and might hurt the building aesthetically. He thought that the old buildings should be allowed to keep the standards of when they were built. Especially mentioned was the use of safety glass which would not shatter and having to use steel door jambs. Marsh asked if the second floor would be up to the code and Pielstick said that they would have to widen the stairs and also the present code specified having a landing after 12 vertical feet and the stairway would have to be modified. Marsh thought that they should make a recommendation to take into consideration the aesthetics in the restoration. In regards to the Historic Core Ordinance that was coming before Council the following Monday, Stanford said that the issues were clear and the members had done their work. Burns asked if the members should be there and Stanford didn't think it necessary since Council was familiar with their feelings. He didn't think that Council would be voting on it that night. Stanford noted that the intention of the City in terms of the Wheeler was that it would house the performing arts and so his office was in the process of obtaining space needs of the various groups such as Ballet West, etc. Planning was also going to look at the Wheeler in terms of space and also check it out structurally, electrically and have a plumbing analysis done. He estimated that of the 30,000 sq ft in the Wheeler, 20,000 would be available. Stanford asked that they support the City in their intent to use the building as a performing arts center. Burns moved that they approve the Resolution recommending to the City that the Wheeler Opera House be restored and utilized as the Center for Performing Arts. Frost seconded. All in favor except Marsh who voted nay. Motion carried. Groen suggested that Stanford write to Johns-Manville Co., which has just recently moved to Colorado, and see if they would be interested in giving some money towards the restoration since they would probably be using their material anyway. Groen also questioned the parking situation that would be encountered in the downtown area if the Wheeler were a performing arts center. Would there be adequate parking at night in that area? Stanford said this was one of the things that would have to be looked into. Groen, Burns and Marsh said that they would be going to the Council meeting and they questioned if Jerry Michaels had been able to find anyone willing to speak for the district at the Council meeting. -2- RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Regular Meetin~ Historic Preservation Committee December 20, 1974 Historic Core, Enforcement Next Meeting cont'd Groen mentioned that he had noticed a change in the attitude of the architects in town for the historic core since the criteria had not been part of the Ordinance. Burns offered to produce a form that could be attached to the building plans so that approval would have to be granted by the HPC before a permit was issued if the Ordinance goes through and they have some jurisdiction. Marsh said that they should come up with procedures and set them down on paper for applicants to follow. It was determined that the next meeting would be on January 10, 1975 to allow for the holidays. Groen noted that he had received a letter from Bill Kirwin of the West End Property Owners Assocation and that they would probably be on the agenda for that meeting, with Kirwin presenting the case to the HPC. Frost moved to adjourn and Marsh seconded. Ail in favor, meeting adjourned at 3:55 p.m. Deputy City Clerk -3-