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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19741108RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Regular Meeting Aspen Historic Preservation Committee November 8, 1974 The meeting was called to order by Vice-Chairman Lary Groen at 3:05 p.m. with members Norman Burns, Florence Glidden, Bob Marsh and Jerry Michaels. Also present was Greg Cole of the Planning Office. APPROVAL OF MINUTES LETTER TO SKI CORP. PRESIDENT Burns moved to approve the minutes of October 11, 1974 and Marsh seconded. All in favor, motion carried. Groen asked if a letter had been sent to D.R.C. Brown thanking him for the antique winch. He said that the mining equipment had been placed in back of the Histori- cal Museum and that he had not been able to discover much history on it yet. Evidentally Red Rowland and Bede Harris had taken it from the original shaft to Ruthies so that Rowland could get to it with his truck. But the winch would not fit on the truck so it had lain there until retrieved last week. Members questioned who the owner of the winch was and it was determined that the City owned it. ASPEN SPORTS NATIONAL TRUST SUBSCRIPTIONS Groen mentioned that Aspen Sports would be coming up before Council the llth for their encroachment request and that he would like to see some members there for the meeting. The current issue of the National Trust magazine was given out to the members and Groen noted that due to prior mixups in obtaining a subscription, the magazine was now coming to City Hall. MOTION FOR COMMENDATION JUDY FERRENBERG Marsh moved that a letter to Judy Ferrenberg be sent commending her for her work with the HPC and that the Mayor also put his signature on the letter. Glidden seconded. All in favor, motion carried. LETTERS TO PROPERTY OWNERS Marsh was also in favor of sending letters of commenda- tion to property owners in favor of historic preserva- tion but Groen was hesitant because of the current controversy over the historic district. It ~as~n~te~& that the Historical Society gives out~i-~6-~or'-~ous~ that they find historically significant~and-~hat maybe the Society could send out something to people in favor of a historic district. WEST END PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION Marsh was asked about the West End Association and how far they were from achieving historic designation. Marsh felt that they were within a couple of weeks of it and hoped that it could be before Thanksgiving. He said that over half of the owners in the West End had signed a petition for a historic district. He advised the members that the area would be the area bounded by Castle Creek on the West, on the North by the Roaring Fork River, on the East by Mill Street and on the South by Highway 82. Cole said that the Planning Office liked the idea of the West End being historic and thought that they should use all the strong feelings of these people to help include both sides of Main Street by using their majority over the lodges that were against historic designation. John Stanford came into the meeting and told members that he didn't feel that it was a good idea to include that part of Main St. to the south alley since the opposition of the Lodges would hurt the West End and might cause -1- COORDINATION WITH MALL COMMISSION - PARKING SOLUTION them to lose the chance for the designation. He said that his office will be dealing with preservation of Main St. in a couple of months and could hopefully get it through at that time. The Secretary gave copies of a memorandum from the City Attorney to the members. Ms. Stuller had outlined the procedures the West End must go through: HPC must investigate and determined the worth of the designation; HPC must pass a resolution recommending to the P & Z the adoption; then a joint meeting with the two; adoption of the district by the City Council and record- ation of the adopting ordinance. Members thought that a special meeting should be called next week to get the resolution through the HPC and onto the P & Z. Michaels said that he had been approached by Tom Iacono of the Grog Shop in regards to the malling of Galena St. Iacono said that 11 out of 15 businesses on Galena St. had signed a petition against it and that reasons against it ranged from them wanting to see provisions for parking and a transportation system working to having a more aesthetically pleasing plan for the area. Michaels wanted to know how the HPC stood on the Mall. Groen said that the Mall Commission, of which he is a member, had recommended not making the change because of the lack of an overall plan. Michaels mentioned using vacant lots around the City for parking but that Iacono had intimated that he would put in parking meters or the City might and Michaels did not want to see that happen. Groen mentioned that he had received a letter from Mick Mahoney, addressed to the Mall members, in which he had thrown the main problem of the parking solution to the Mall members. Groen said that during the last meeting of the Mall Commission, Mahoney had explained where the money from the 7th penny went and that out of $600,000 generated from the 6th and 7th pennys, there would be $300,000 left over to possibly put into a parking solution Michaels questioned whether the Rio Grande property wasn't going to help out and Groen said that the proposed mini-buses were to take care of shuttling the people to the downtown area. Cole said that Wagner Park appeared to be so outrageously expensive what with also having to waterproof the structure and then reconstructing the park on top again that most people were discounting it but that because people don't want to walk very far they may have to go with Wagner. In conjunction with that, Groen thought that they should allow a lot of peripheral businesses such as the Sinclair station to go underground. Marsh questioned whether they had to have a total Mall since Grand Junction's was so successful with only a partial mall. Cole said that they were exploring that possibility and that the majority of the businesses were in favor of it but that there would always be some businesses dependent upon short term parking. Michaels noted that even two winters ago, before the Mall, there were parking problems. Marsh thought that the employer had a responsibility to make his people park in the City lot and Michaels felt that the City could make the employees go along with that much better. The possibility of a sticker program was brought up again and Michaels reminded members-about West Village's plan using stickers that seemed to be working. Michaels said that he would be willing to pay -2- RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Regular Meeting Historical Preservation Committee November 8, 1974 NEW MEMBERS WHEELER OPERA HOUSE: PORTICO BRAND BUILDING for his employees to park down in the Trueman lot but that the City should set up satellite parking lots and provide transportation systems. He feared that the City would then be able to say that they were losing $20,000 a year because no one used the lots because people could still park downtown. He questioned whether they shouldn't close off the streets first and force people to use the public transportation. Groen brought up the situation of D.D. Brinkman in which the P & Z conditioned approval to use her parking lot for paid parking by saying that she had to provide parking spaces for the businesses in the Mill St. Station. He felt that it set a precedent in terms of downtown parking. Cole said that the Planning Department was in agreement that there should~ t be required parking spaces in the downtown area and that it came down to the people or the City putting in the parking and it didn't look like the City would be able to do it for lack of funds. He liked the potential for a parking district which would have to be started by a group of citizens. He noted that the City couldn't start a district because of a technicality but Groen noted that the Mall Commission could. Groen suggested that a solution to the probelm might be to have parking valets based on tip income but members felt this to be unfeasible. The Secretary advised the members that there were three candidates to be interviewed by Council on the llth: Terry End, Gaard Moses and Jackie Kasabach. Cole mentioned that he had a letter regarding the addition of a portico to the Wheeler and that everythinq seemed to be in order except that they need a photograph of what it used to be like. Glidden thought that Chick Collins might have a picture but Groen doubted whether he had one that old. The letter was to be addressed to local architects and Groen asked if the City Manager and Council couldn't also get copies. It was noted that funding for the architect would probably come from Mahoney who could ok up to $1,000 without Council approval. Marsh wanted to bring to the members attention that on the front facade of the Brand Building was a large crack where the sandstone had fallen off and the brick was showing through and he wondered what they would do if the building were in such a state of disrepair that the owner wanted to tear it down. Michaels said that as he understood it, before Baldwin bought it, the building had been condemned and the City had been trying to get Stan out, then as soon as Harley took over the building was no longer condemned. Burns explained that the new leasees were forced to shore up the stairs, etc. before they could get the building. Michaels said that he would assume that it was done with an engineering study but members doubted this. Groen said that he had been on the 2nd floor recently and that the new leasees were in the process of tearing up the old ceiling and shoring it up. Groen thought that they should ask Clayton Meyring -3- informally to give his opinion on the building. Burns moved to adjourn and Glidden seconded. All in favor, meeting adjourned at 5:00 p.m. / D e'p~ut y Citer- Clerk -4-