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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19741004RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Regular Meeting Historical Preservation Committee October 4,1974 The meeting was called to order at 3:13 p.m. by Vice-Chairman Lary Groen with members Mona Frost, Florence Glidden and Norm Burns. Also present were John Stanford, Greg Cole and Yank Mojo of the Planning Office. Approval of Minutes Burns mentioned a correction for the September 20th minutes, under Ferrenberg's comments about the Koch Lumber Building possibly being designated historic, in which he wished the last two lines of that paragraph to read "the members did not believe that it was possible to have the building historically preserved." Burns moved to approve the minutes as they stood corrected and Frost seconded. All in favor, motion carried. Yellow House on E.Hopkins Clayton Meyring was asked to come before the Committee to discuss his attempts to locate Mr. Woodward, who last spring submitted plans, which met code, for additions onto the house and especially the porch of the yellow house next to La Cocina. Mr. Meyring said that he had thought Mr. Woodward would return to his office to obtain a building permit but that he had never returned for it and Meyring had not been able to trace him yet. Groen said that he had seen Mr. Woodward in town last week and members recalled that a Mrs. E. Stone was the owner of the house so Mr. Woodward might be traced through her. Jerry Michaels arrives. Groen thought that he might have Woodward's phone number written down somewhere and that he would check into it. Wheeler Opera House Groen asked Meyring whether he was aware of the hanging wires outside of the Pub and wondered who's responsi- bility it was to see that the wires are secured and free of any danger of fire. Meyring said that he would check into it. Deanna Brinkman Letter Groen advised Meyring that Ms. Brinkman had not respond- ed to the letter sent to her asking her to appear before the Committee in reference to her reasons for putting in reflective glass in the greenhouse of her Mill St. Station building. The Building Inspector was asked if there was any way to make Ms. Brinkman adhere to the wishes of the H.P.C. and Meyring said that there is a certificate of occupancy that must be certified by him and before she gets that certificate she must have adhered to all the conditions set by the various boards she had been before. Antique Lights Yank Mojo advised the members on the progress of the lights saying that the lights were in from Main St. to 3rd and that all the platforms or bases were pored ex- cept for the Mill St. ones. He noted that Paepcke Park and the historic district would be highlighted. Mojo said that they had originally anticipated using all of the 96 stands but had discovered that they could use nowhere near the amount of the lights due to the disrepair of the stands. As it stands, the City has had to send for light sockets for fixtures. Mojo said that he would like to see a light at the corner of the Aspen Sports Addition Little Annie's Second Floor Addition Independence Lodge, at the Wheeler Opera House corner, by the Ute City Banque and by the Crystal Palace. Members questioned the need for the lights at the Crystal Palace nad Independence corners since they already provide so mich light. Groen asked if the stands would be painted and Mojo siad that some should certainly be painted but he did not know when and said that the engineering problems were dominating now. Groen said that the.beiqe .ton~ o~he one being placed in the Mall would b~F$~o~ ~r all to be painted. Mojo also mentioned that 6 lights were planned but not put in yet: 2 on each end of the Castle Creek Bridge and 2 on the corner of Hallam and 7th streets. Groen had qualms about the heaviness of the lights and asked whether Ramona Markalunas had been contacted yet since the West End Homeowners Association are putting in lights that are similar but much lighter in weight. Cole suggested putting more lights in but members told him that there was not enough space for them on the bridge. The name of Jon Busch was mentioned as he had heard that Portland, Oregon had similar lighting fixtures and Groen thought that the City could get replacements from there. Mojo wondered whether they were single or double globes and said that he would check into it. Michaels asked if the signal lights would be replaced with the antique one and Stanford said that he had already talked to the Highway Department and it looks like a good possibility. The Vice-chairman asked that Mojo advise them with a schematic before any more lights were placed. Ernie from Caudill and Associates, presented the plans for the addition to the building in which office space would be added onto the top. It would be used by the present owner and an undetermined amount would be rented out. He mentioned that there had been an error in the plans when they went before Council for an encroachment and that they would have to go before Council again. Groen asked why the stairway wouldn't be routed inside but Ernie said that the owner felt there was not ade- quate space inside for the stairs and that they would have to go into the original structure which would be costly. Burns said that by looking at the plans he could see that' they would be with structural elements such as the stairway, but he didn't think that anything could be approved or disapproved at this time until a variance was granted. Groen said that their official suggestion would be to try to work the stairs inside the structure. Jay Fippin of Pielstick & Rosalak showed the plans for a separate restaurant to be built on top of Dave Topol's restaurant. The existing building has a false front on the top and it is proposed to make a sun terrace in the front with a wooden truss and enclosed glass all in the same western motif as the rest of the Little Annie's. Also proposed was a skylight in the middle of the top floor with possibly a brick fountain underneath. They had also considered putting in glass in the back to catch more sunlight but had made no decision as of yet. Burns felt that if approval was granted that a stipula- tion about not using mirrored or reflective glass should be put in. RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Regular Meeting Historical Preservation Committee October 4, 1974 Little Annies Addition Motion Criteria - John Stanford Groen wanted them to avoid using strip windows and Fippin said that they would go with casement windows similar to the ones on the bottom. The members discussed the fact that the building was of an entirely different architectural style than what they reviewed through their criteria but that they would have to consider it on its own merits. Groen was also concerned with the wooden truss and enclosed glass making a "Fishbowl" effect and was assured that the timbers were wide-spaced enough that it would not produce that closed in effect. Burns moved to grant approval provided that at no time do they use mirrored or reflective glass, that the color in the rear be analagous to the front and that color samples be submitted to them. Frost seconded. All in favor, motion carried. Stanford presented to the Conunitte an appraoch to the brochure for the criteria which he had put into a question-answer form to preface the criteria. Stanford asked that the members review what he had already done so far and add any questions they wanted to be included. He said he had some reservations about this approach but felt it to be a very direct way to presenting some of the questions such as: Why establish a Historic District?, Why not just designate each individual historic structure?, etc. Members were favorable to the approach. The question arose over control of colors on buildings two years after their approval before the H.P.C. and Stanford said that it would be best to put it into the Ordinance when it is written. Members were also concerned with putting stipulation against mirrored or reflective glass in new buildings into the Ordinance. Groen said that in regard to what they want or don't want in the criteria, that Langdon Morris had said to eliminate anything you don't want in the criteria and to say what you do want, in other words spell out exactly what is allowed. Members agree to look at the preliminary brochure and to try to come up with some other questions for the preface. Glidden moved to adjourn and Michaels seconded. Ail in favor, meeting adjourned at 4:50 p.m. -3-