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Study Session
Historic Preservation Committee
September 4, 1974
This was a joint meeting with Council and P & Z and the following people were
present: Ramona Markalunas, Jack Walls, Stacy Standley, Jim Breasted, Jennifer
Pederson, Chick Collins, Jack Jenkins, Robert Barnard, Spencer Schiffer, Lary
Groen, Judy Ferrenberg, Norm Burns, Florence Glidden and City Attorney Sandra
Stuller, City/County Planner John Stanford and City Manager Dr. Philip Mahoney.
John Stanford
The City/County Planner summarized all that had
occurred since the HPC had been created. He
mentioned the opposition felt at the Public Hearing
simply because there was no criteria to follow so
the HPC did an inventory of existing buildings
considered indigenous to the area and rated them
"exceptional", etc, according to the materials used,
size or massing of the buildings and land use of
those buildings and came up with criteria that are
both workable for architects and yet in keeping with
the historic buildings around them.
Stanford stated that the main intent was to protect
the area of historic character so that they maintain
their significance through street landscaping,
promoting visual unity along building facades that
inclose pedestrian spaces such as the mall, link
the topographical areas such as the Rio Grande land
with the Little Nell lift and Rubey parking lot, and
maintain the "green" areas plus promoting architectur-
al cohesiveness in the construction of new buildings
from the vacant lots.
Judy Ferrenberg
The Chairman of the HPC reiterated the fact that the
criteria had developed from the HPC's needing to know
what to base criteria on and that the only objection
heard at the Public Hearing was that there were no
criteria to go on. She felt that since powers had
been granted to the HPC, it should be followed up
with criteria so that architects have something to go
on.
Jack Walls
Mentioned that he had shown the criteria to three
architectural firms for some feedback and that the
overwhelming opinion was that the criteria would make
"new" old buildings.
Norm Burns and Lary Groen
CRITERIA
Went over the criteria and explained them in detail.
The seven items are as follows: 1. New construction
or remodeling shall not extend for more than three
town lots (90' by 100') without an alteration of at
least 8 feet in the front setback line of the building
facade which is parallel to the alley.
Building roofs of the new construction or remodeling
shall not exceed three town lots without an alteration
in the form and/or height as it relates to the front
setback.
These roofs shall be flat, gable or hip. Established
local historic variation shall be reviewed.
2. Exposed side and rear elevations shall be of ident
ical materials as the front facade or of a color or
material analogous to the front facade. Any street
or mall facade shall be considered a front facade.
Building materials other than brick, cut stone or
clapboard siding shall be of a nature and texture
Norm Burns and Lary Groen
CRITERIA, Con't
Jack Walls
Sandra Stuller
Jim Moran
Walls
Stanford
Ferrenberg
not to detract from the significance and character of
the historic buildings within the district.
Hip or gabled roofs shall be standing rib sheet metal,
wood or composition shingles, or suitable facsimile
thereof. Other materials shall be reviewed by the
Historic Preservation Committee.
3. Fenestrations above the first floor shall be
greater in vertical dimensions than horizontal.
Building details, if used, shall be oriented to
fenestrations, corners, roof lines and at floor levels
4. No new construction or remodeling shall have
exposed structural skeletal elements other than load
bearing walls.
5. Porches and stoops shall not exceed 20 feet along
any facade. Balconies shall not project beyond the
building facade.
6. Painted front facades shall not exceed 90 feet
without a color or textured alteration.
7. Colors, values, intensity and color placement,
being considered a valid controversial artistic
embellishment and having an intimate relationship
to all the foregoing criteria, shall be subject to
review by the Historic Preservation Committee.
As examples of what would be considered to fit the
criteria would be the new RBH building in which the
architects have been able to come up with a perfectly
modern design that fits in with the historic area.
But the proposed Marcus building would not be approved
because of the hanging gardens and the balconies which
will not fit in with the Galena Steet historical
buildings.
Mentioned that architects thought that there was no
flexibility, that the criteria would lead to an "open
door" or "Disneyland" effect and that they disagreed
with legislating taste. He suggested that the HPC
should be involved with old buildings only and that
a Fine Arts Committee be made up with architects and
other craftsmen.
Stated that the wording had purposely been made vague
in the Resolution for the adoption of the criteria
so that there was flexibility in them. She further
stated that other communities were deliberately
keeping the wording vague.
Questioned government's role in telling the public
what their taste is.
Again noted the apparent inflexibility of the criteria
and that the architect had no way of knowing that he
could deviate in any way from the old buildings.
Suggested that a preface be inserted in the criteria
explaining that the criteria are guidelines only.
Also suggested that the HPC meet with local architects
to get their feelings after explaining the reasons
behind the criteria.
Questioned what the Council wanted to do now? Did
they want an HPC for new construction as they had
originally voted or what? Did they want criteria?
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