HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19740621RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
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R_~egu~lar Meeting Historic Preservation CoaLmittee June 2!.~. 1974
Meeting was called to order at 2~05 P,M, by Acting Chairwoman Judy Ferrenberg~
with Committee ~embers Bob Marsh~ Florence'Glidden'~ Mona Frost, Lary Groen',.
and Norman Burns, with Assistant Planner John Stanford.
Approval of Minutes -
May 24, 1974; June 4,
1974
Norman Burns made a motion to approve the minutes of
May 24~ 1974 and June 4, 1974. Florence Glidden
seconded the motion.
Ail in favor, motion carried.
Building Review -
Paragon
Stanford presented the plans for the Paragon exten-
sion out into the Mall, similar to the Aspen Mine and
Commission Co. extension. Stanford stated that they
are extending on a more temporary basis than what
the Mine Co. did. It was noted that they were re-
quired to have a pass through, where the Mine Co.
did not because they were covering the entire front
of their building, and they needed to maintain access
to the main part of the establishment.
The extension would contain tables and umbrellas, and
a type of lattice fence, with a specially built bar
to go out into the extension. They would like to
furnish it with wicker furniture.
Bob Marsh stated that he was abstaining from voting
on this. Stanford stated that the Committee was not
going to vote on this, but it was being brought to
the committee's attention for their information.
Ferrenberg noted that the H.P.C. should meet with the
Mall CommissioD to explain the viewpoint of the H.P.C.
in regard to the Mall being compatible with the
Historic District, and the image the Committee is
trying to keep in the downtown area.
It was noted by Stanford that P & Z had requested
that, even though they have no review powers over
such construction, they be mad~ aware of these type
of plans.
Ferrenberg stated that she appreciated the fact that
the Paragon had presented these plans to the Com-
mittee, and felt that it was important that the
Committee coordinate their ideas with other existing
boards at this time. Stanford noted that Historic
Preservation as well as the malls were all part of
the urban design plan for the downtown area, and
that both parts needed to work together.
New Business; Elks
Windows
Mona Frost noted that it had been reported by the
paper that the Committee had approved the metal
windows on the Elks Building. She stated that she
did not recall this.
Ferrenberg replied that a majority of the Committee
had been contacted over the telephone, and they had
agreed to this. She further noted that the Committee
had no authority in this matter, as the Elks Building
had requested an Ordinance 19 exemption.
Ferrenberg :stated that she and Lary Groen had met
with the Elks the previous evening to discuss the
proposed historic district.
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New Business; Member-.
ship
Building Review -
County Courthouse
Historic Preservation Committee June 2!~ 1974
Norman Burns asked about the status of Dave Finholm
as a member of the Committee. It was noted that
he had not formally resigned from the Committee,
Ferrenberg further noted that any new member on the
Committee should be a young business owner in the
downtown core area. Ferrenberg stated that this
should be followed up after the public hearing on
June 25.
Hal Clark was at the meeting to request the
approval of a specific color scheme for the painting
of the exterior wood trim on the Courthouse. He
noted that Lary Groen had been extremely helpful in
developing the color scheme. Clark stated that the
main problem was whether they go with a more tradi-
tional darker color scheme, or a brighter, more
colorful scheme. The Commissioners had accepted a
bid for the painting of the building, but were not
interested in picking a color scheme.
Groen presented the original colors, yellow green and
gold, but stated that there was now a feeling that
public buildings should be restored to the original
colors, or as close to them as can be established.
Ferrenberg stated that they had also considered that
in the restoration process for public building~ that
the colors used need not be identical to those origi-
nally used, but need be colors traditional to public
buildings during that period of time. She asked if
these were traditional. Groen replied that varying
tones of them were.
Ferrenberg further noted that darker colors absorb
more heat, which may crack the wood and require
repainting more frequently.
Groen presented the original colors, and some darker
colors. Burns stated that since the committee had
decided to restore public buildings to the original,
that the Committee should go with dark colors from
the standpoint of historic preservation. The colors
originally presented were, however, tones of tradi-
tional colors.
Groen suggested that the edge could be taken off the
lighter colors to tone them down. It was noted that
either the light or dark colors were compatible with
the sandstone.
Clark suggested that the green be toned down and
darkened.
Ferrenberg noted that the colors should be matched,
and Groen stated that they would get large color
swatches and that the colors should be verified with
the painters.
Ferrenberg stated that she felt the darker colors
would not blend with the sandstone.
Groen made a motion that the Committee consider the
colo~s for the Courthouse as being a deeper green
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Building Review -
County Courthouse,
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Tom Thumb
The Shaft
Old Business; Criteria
Historic Preservation Co~ittee June ~ 1974
and a muted gold similar to the samples the Committee
has on the overlay~ and work with the painter at the
time of the actual mixing of the colors to verify
them and make sure they are acceptable. Glidden
seconded the motion.
Ail in favor, with the exception of Committee member
Norman Burns, who voted nay.
Motion carried.
A representative was present to show the remodel
plans for the Tom Thumb. The remodel was not re-
quired to go through Ordinance 19, so the presenta-
tion was for the Committee's information only.
It was stated that the owner would like to add 6'
of roof on one side to cover a stairway. This
would be on the east side of the building.
Ferrenberg asked if the roof would be in the same
lines and would be the same color. The representa-
tive stated that it would, and noted that the ex-
tention would be approximately 30' long, just cover-
ing the stairs.
John Stanford stated that they were again not present
at the meeting.
Stanford asked if the Committee would like to com-
bine two of the four categories, the notable and
historic categories. The three categories were then
(1) exceptional, (2) excellent, and (3) notable.
The notable category included the smaller buildings,
primarily residences, which the Committee would like
to see retained, but possibly not in that location.
Sometimes these buildings are in a location where
the more suitable land use would be something more
intensive.
It was noted that the Hotel Jerome had sent an op-
posing letter in regard to the proposed historic
district. Stanford stated that consent of the owners
in the district was not needed for the district to
be passed. Ferrenberg stated that those property
owners in the proposed district should be contacted
who opposed such designation regardless that it
was not needed for the district to be passed.
Stanford stated that the City Attorney had suggested
that the Committee not go forward with another
public hearing after the first one with the P & Z
until after the criteria have been established.
The Committee reviewed the letters opposing the
proposed district,
Ferrenberg suggested that the regular meeting date
be changed to June 28, and drop the meeting on July 5.
This would be soon after the public hearing with
the P & Z and would allow the Committee to evaluate
the input from the public hearing. This would be
held at 2:00 P.M.
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Burns made a motion that the meeting be adjourned,
Marsh seconded the motion, Meeting adjourned at
3:52 P.M.
Secretary