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Plannin9 Commission
June 24. 1986
Chairman Welton Anderson called the special meeting to order at
5:00 p.m. with members Roger Hunt, Al Blomquist, Mari Peyton, Jim
Colombo, Jasmine Tygre, and Ramona Markalunas present.
~PeORN~GONSP~CIAL REVIEW
Steve Burstein, planning office, said this review covers trash
and utility area reduction because the proposed location is the
Mill street mall, and the alley is not an acceptable place for
trash and utility location. The other is special review for use
of open space. Burstein said the Commission should address
whether this is a legitimate restaurant use of open space. The
Popcorn Wagon is a unique use and does corne close to meeting the
definition of a restaurant. Burstein told the Commission the
trash enclosure area proposed should be 10 by 20 feet to
accommodate a 6 cubic yard dumpster with a 6 foot walkway to
service the Grill restaurant.
Burstein said there will be enough area in front of the trash
area for a small service vehicle to park. Burstein told P & Z
the planning office took the position because this is open space,
it would be more compatible not to have planters but to plant
directly into the ground. HPC did a final review today and
requested the planters be 3 feet in width and 18 inches of dirt.
Burstein recommended approval with conditions to make it an
acceptable project. Burstein said a question has been raised
whether the water and sewer systems in the Barnard building are
adequate.
Lil Lively told the Commission the Popcorn Wagon was located at
this intersection in 1969. Dan Arrow said the Popcorn Wagon is
an integral part of the perception of the downtown area. Arrow
said the Council has indicated they would like to see the Popcorn
Wagon located at the intersection of Mill and Hyman. Arrow told
the Commission they have restored the wagon to its 1913 beauty.
Arrow said they feel the Wagon located at the proposed site with
landscaping will be appropriate to the style and flavor of Aspen.
Lively said the Popcorn Wagon has been in business in Aspen for
17 years. Arrow told the Commission after the HPC meeting, they
went to the property and made some measurements for the trash
area. Arrow said a 20 foot enclosure for the dumpster protrudes
into the property too much. Lively said she spoke to the trash
company, who said 13 feet would be sufficient.
Arrow said the Popcorn Wagon will be providing their own
dumpster, which will not be visible from the street or the mall.
Ar row presented pictures of the area and told P & Z often BFI
cannot pick up the trash because there are cars parked in the
area. Arrow said by eliminating the parking, they will be
providing service access to the Grill and also more dumpster
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space. Arrow said they also plan to police the area to make sure
it stays clean. Burstein said he would agree 10 by 13 feet
dimension for the dumpster area would be adequate. Hunt asked
what is planned for the area around the bay windows. Arrow said
HPC asked that they landscape that area with low hedges. Hunt
said he feels 50 seats may not be appropriate for this area.
Arrow told the Commission they had more seats at their previous
location.
Lively questioned the condition requiring a letter of credit as
she feels they can be counted on to do what they promised.
Lively said the sewer line is a tenant-landlord problem, not a
city problem. Arrow said the Grill had indicated there is a
problem with the sewer and with the amount of water available.
Howard Gunther, owner of the Grill, told the Commission he feels
this location for the popcorn Wagon is a good one. Gunther said
he feels their solution to the trash area is very good. Gunther
said there is not enough water going into the building to service
the restaurant. Gunther said he is concerned about the plumbing
problems at this building. Arrow said the only washing they
require are utensils. Blomquist agreed the water and sewer
problem is a tenant landlord problem.
Arrow said they disagree they should be denied certificate of
occupancy until the street lamps are approved by CCLC. The
condition should be the CCLC review the lamps before they are
installed. Anderson said he feels requesting a letter of credit
is heavy handed. Anderson asked how the pavers will be laid.
Arrow said they plan on digging down and putting sand and pavers.
Colombo suggested not issuing a final certificate of occupancy
until the conditions in the memorandum are met. Burstein said
the building office did not feel that was sufficient and
recommended a letter of credit.
Whi te moved the recommend the approval of the Popcorn Wagon use
of required open space, and special review of the trash area,
changing condition 1 to 10 by 13 feet; changing condition 2 to
delete a letter of credit and have the conditions met by final
certificate of occupancy; 3 changed to 18 inches of dirt inside
dimension; 4 as is; 5 changed to CCLC review before installation
of lights; seconded by Ms. Peyton.
Ms. Tygre said she shares the concern about the number of tables.
This is a restaurant use in open space; it is a unique use. This
is taking open space and becoming a commercial use. Ms. Tygre
said this business is unusual and unique to Aspen historically,
and it is being treated as a special request.
White amended his motion this is being allowed because of its
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special character and unique contribution to the community;
seconded by Ms. Peyton.
Ms. Markalunas asked where the rest rooms are. Lively said they
are located in the Torn Thumb building, 118 feet away, which is
within the health department's regulations. They will have the
key to the rest rooms whenever the Popcorn Wagon is open.
Blomquist said he would like the applicant to watch the trash
problem in the mall and immediate vicinity. Hunt agreed the
applicants should be responsible for policing the trash in this
area.
White amended his motion to include the applicant is responsible
for policing of the immediately adjacent mall area and will put
trash receptacles if necessary to eliminate a waste problem in
that area; seconded by Ms. Peyton. All in favor, motion carried.
Ms. Tygre moved to adjourn at 5:45 p.m.; seconded by Colombo.
All in favor, motion carried.
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