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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19900619 ~4U RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION JUNE 19. 1990 vice Chairman Jasmine Tygre called meeting to order at 4:30pm. Answering roll call were Peyton and Jasmine Tygre. Anderson were excused. Graeme Means, Bruce Kerr, Richard Compton, Mari Roger Hunt and Welton COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Mari Peyton: our meetings afternoon. Is there any interest in the Commission in having begin at 5:00? 4:30 seems like the middle of the Jasmine: are here. I think we should wait until more of the Commissioners I personally am not. Graeme: I am happy with where it is. It is fine with me where it is. Richard: Jasmine: Why don't you bring it up at another meeting? 4' Mari: It seems to me the reason we moved it up was because we thought we would get out earlier. It seems like we just have - longer meetings. Jasmine: good one. The idea of streamlining the meetings is certainly a Maybe you should work on that aspect of it. Mari: We always used to get out at 7:00. And we still get out at 7:00. Graeme: Asked volunteering but for it. regarding the housing symposium. I am not if one of us went I think the City should pay Jasmine: I agree. Richard: I would like to go but I have jury duty that day. Chances are it won't happen. But I can't promise anything. Graeme: Hopefully Richard can go. Can we pay for it or the City pay for it? Kim Johnson volunteered to discuss this with Amy. '~._. Richard: Something that came up at last Friday's town meeting and which I had discussed beforehand with several people was the lack of affordable office space in town for a lot of local business not to mention the retail space that we have been PZM6.19.90 dealing with for a while. I was wondering if the Planning Dept has been cooking up any ideas to deal with that situation. If not we need to get together to deal with it. Baker: We have got some good ideas to look at. Changes in use in the code. Perhaps the FAR bonus aspect of the zone districts could be applied. We want to take a look at that in conjunction with the other land use stuff. We are hiring the consultants for that effort. Jasmine: A change in use from one commercial use to another commercial use does not require coming to P&Z? Leslie: Right. Jasmine: Even if the new commercial use is much more intensive than the old commercial use? Leslie: Right. It is only if someone goes from one category to the next then they have to negate for employees and parking. Jasmine: But one commercial use to another commercial use does not require it? Because when you start thinking about a hard rock cafe going into the Elk's Club Building and you think of the number of employees that that is going to generate for an operation of that sort without any mitigation--everything you do as far as housing and GMP, is like spitting in the wind. Richard: Or if the commercial space is subdivided into smaller leasable spaces but the type of use is the same, does that just fall through the cracks too? Leslie: If you had a net leasable space like the hard rock cafe that was moving down into an area that was expanding and not expanding into what is now extraordinary and become net leasable- -hard rock cafe is expanding down into a basement but that was never storage. That was usable space--net leasable space. But if that had been storage space and they need that space then they would mitigate for that additional net leasable that they are adding to the space. Jasmine: We often go through this thing with GMP when a building goes up. And of course any kind of employee generation figure is kind of a stab in ~he dark. And of course they are all going to be very minimal impact uses that are going into this building as we all know because everyone who comes before us has a business that doesn't generate a lot of employees. And then all of a sudden we have businesses in there that do generate a lot of employees. Somewhere along the line we have to be able to get a 2 PZM6.19.90 handle on this. This may be part of our various revisions. I want to put that down as something we should really look into. Baker: $2.39 per square foot a month. Mari: Asked about the Dopkin fence. When we last saw that we required them to do something before getting a building permit before the second part. The second part has begun and nothing has happened to the fence. Leslie: Buzz, Bill Drueding and I in going over Buzz's plans, Buzz wanted to take down the fence at the time that his workmen were there. There were none. STAFF COMMENTS There were none. PUBLIC COMMENTS MINUTES DECEMBER 12. 1989 Richard made a motion to approve the minutes. Mari seconded the motion with all in favor. '......' RYANCO GMOS EXEMPTION Lelsie made presentation as attached in record. Jasmine: Having to do with cumulative effects: For example this application comes in and it is under the 500sqft limit. How do you monitor if and when they ever come in for more expansion? Leslie: Typically we look in the old files to see if there has been prior approval for any project and see what they are. Randy Wedum, architect: Explained the project using plans. Jasmine asked the applicant if they had any problem with the conditions of approval. Arch: I do have one problem with the parking. The existing FAR is 6,000sqft. When I originally designed the building I got a parking variance for 1.5 spaces per thousand. Based on that that comes out to 9 spaces. In the memo addressing that we are generating .54 extra spaces. So if what you are asking me to do is add one more space, I already have 10 spaces so I should think that would cover my increase. 3 PZM6.19.90 Ryan, building owner: We would be spending money to accomplish something we already have. We are trying to keep rents down. Plus we are the owner/occupier of this building. So it is important for us to maintain it as cost-effective as we can. After discussion it was decided to eliminate '3 of the Planning Office recommendations. (attached in record) MOTION Mari: I move to approve the GMQS exemption with the Planning Office conditions #1 and '2 as stated in the Planning Office memo dated June 19, 1990 and deleting '3. Graeme seconded the motion. Richard: with the stipulation that the planning office check that there are 10 parking spaces. Mari amended her motion. Graeme amended the second to the motion. Everyone voted in favor of the motion. The regular portion commissioners then Reviews. of the meeting was adjourned at this time. went into work session of Stream Margin '''''...... Time was 5:00pm. 4