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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19910917 .}J ~ RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION SEPTEMBER 17. 1991 vice Chairlady Jasmine Tygre call meeting to order at 4:30pm. Answering roll call were David Brown, Sara Garton, Richard Compton, Bruce Kerr, Roger Hunt and Jasmine Tygre. New member Tim Mooney arrived shortly after roll call. MINUTES SEPTEMBER 3. 1991 After correction: Richard made a motion to approve minutes of September 3, 1991. Bruce seconded the motion with all in favor. ASPEN VILLAS At the request of the Planning Office: MOTION David: David made a motion to table and continue this hearing to date certain of October 8, 1991. Roger seconded the motion with all in favor. ASPEN MOUNTAIN PUD ICE RINK MAP AMENDMENT David offered to step down from this hearing because of a possible conflict of interest. After discussion between members of the Commission and the applicant it was determined not to be a problem at this time. Diane Moore, Planning made presentation as attached in record. Staff recommends approval of this from CL and LTR to Park (Pl. We received about 5 calls from citizens and most of them were reserving their comments for the final and we will notify them. Perry Harvey, Planner for applicant: This is Lot 5 and when we went through the PUD amendment in 1988 the agreement reached with the City was currently, under current zoning, Lot 5 allows a little over 128,000sqft of floor area. It consists of 42,000sqft of floor area currently on what will become Lot 6 and about 86,600sqft on the rear parcel. What we basically said was "We dropped our FAR for the 128 allowed under underlying zoning to 115,000. We said we would not exceed 115,000. We said that we would do a classic PUD for this parcel PZM9. 17 . 91 in the sense that we pushed the density to the rear of the site and leave the front of the site as the open space to put it closer to community activity centers and for the public and to create a visual break before the mass of the building. So what we have under the approval process is this is not coming in right now. But this will be a maximum of 115,000sqft of FAR that exceeds the 86,000sqft of FAR that is allowed on this portion of the site once the rezoning takes place and subdivision takes place. But it is over 13,000sqft below what is allowed on this entire parcel. As Diane said what we are asking for tonight is simply the rezoning. Basically our request is to rezone what we will call right now the northern portion of Lot 5 until we go through the final approval, final amendment. We are requesting subdivision at that time. So this is referred to as the northern portion of Lot 5 or proposed Lot 6. I don't have any problems with the staff memo. Sara: will you be doing a land transfer to the Parks District of Lot 6? Perry: That was not anticipated. What was anticipated was the ownership would remain in Savannah that would be a deed restriction filed as to the uses on the parcel. It would be rezoned to Park. Contractual agreement in the PUD requires certain operations and maintenance which are outlined in there and that is a contract between the developer and the City. Bruce: Is there any advantage at some point in time once this is all done for then some kind of transfer to take place to the city so that it is under the domain of the Parks Dept and publicly owned. Diane: I am not, at this point, so sure that the City is looking forward to having that transferred over to them. Bruce: This does seem to be a first time thing where we have got land that is zoned Park but is still in private ownership. Jasmine: Actually we are probably better off having somebody other than the city be responsible for the maintenance of this park. Roger: I know of at least one other park that is in private ownership but leased to the City for $1 a year or something like that. And the City maintains that. It is on Bleeker between 4th and 5th. 2 PZM9.17.91 Perry: Then went through what was planned for this parcel. Roger: My concern will be the cooling towers and how they are hidden. Perry: What we did--that brick building actually looks like a house. And in the second story of it we have put dormers in and in those dormers there is kind of a metal grillwork-- Roger: So they will actually be enclosed in the second story. Perry: Yes. Absolutely. Everything is inside and it reads as if it is. There is a pUll-down stairway to access that portion of the mechanical and all the pipes are run underneath the plaza over to the-- Sara: In the planning of this was there concern expressed about excavating at the bottom of the mountain because of mud slides and drainage? Perry: What we are doing is taking it down 3ft--the site slopes up. There is about a 5ft grade change from Durant to Dean naturally. What we are going to do is lower it so that it is like 3ft below Durant which will make it about 8 and 1/2 feet below the Dean st grade. Sara: Has there been tests to see if there is underground water and stuff? Perry: Absolutely. There is no underground water. The drainage is excellent and from that level we can access all the storm sewer and sanitary sewer and everything without any problem. Jasmine: Geological survey is part of the whole thing. Perry: Absolutely--soils tests have been done. Tim: will this ever be just an amenity of the other projects that are going on in conjunction with this development? Or will the entire schedule be open to the public. Perry: What we are look at now is that it will be completely open to the public. It will be an amenity to the projects up there because it is kind of the entrance to the properties. And having that open space will benefit. But from an operational standpoint we have considered "What if someone wants to rent it for a birthday party for a couple of hours? Or if someone wants a broom ball game there. That is going to depend upon what is the demand for the skating. It is going to take a couple of years to tell. In the summer time if the Food and Wine Classic wants to rent it, that is 3 PZM9.17.91 a quasi public event because you have to pay to go to it. We would probably rent it to them as part of the Wagner Park and the same kind of facilities that go on there. If someone wants to do a fund raising cocktail party outdoors with a music group, we would probably try to accommodate that. But on a day-to-day basis it is entirely public access. Like City Hall which is public it is not accessible by everyone at all hours of the day. We have got a big concern about having a sheet of ice out there at night when people are coming back from the bars at 1:30 in the morning in their cowboy boots and they think they are bullet proof. So there will be signage and chains across the walkways or some kind of control at that time obviously. We are not going to allow people when it is closed at 11:00 at night to just put their skates on and access it. But during the hours of operation which are perhaps 10 till dark or however the demand works out it will be entirely public. The deed restriction says that it is public and that is exactly what it will be. We intend that it be open for skating 7 days a week. We had discussed at Council regarding special use permit. For special use permit you have to go to City council now. And we said that is kind of crazy. Why don't we set some parameters and allow the city Manager to approve the special use permit for it and monitor it and report to Council on a monthly basis of what is going on. Then if Council says that there is too much request for private use--but I don't think there will be. I think it is going to be public skating and that is what it is going to be for. Jasmine then asked for public comment. Lisa Dawson from North of Nell which is right next to this ice rink. I am here on behalf of our general manager who is out of town. Last year in April he submitted a letter voicing some of our concerns. She then submitted a letter voicing some of their concerns. (attached in record) At the North of Nell we deal with a lot of noise pollution problems from the Tippler. In general we are in favor of the idea of the ice rink. We think it is a nice amenity and we think it can be well managed with the proper controls and limitations. We would like some control over the summer use if it is going to be rented out to private parties or whatever. We would like to suggest that special events be subject to approval via permit review similar to what is done in Wagner Park. Hours of operation are of concern 4 PZM9.17.91 because of late night noise. music be restricted. We would also ask that amplified She then asked regarding special event permits. Perry: What we talked about with council was that the City Manager be allowed to issue permits and then would give some reading to Council rather than have each request be a Council agenda item. There would be parameters set up like hours of operation, etc. We would go on each case to the City Manager. And if the city Manager didn't feel that it fell within the intent of Council's approvals then it wouldn't be done. Bill Butler, That is all. from Condominium Management and I am here to lean. I will have comments later if necessary. There being no further public comments Jasmine closed the public hearing. Jasmine: discussing. subdivision. The rezoning portion Essentially we are Is that right? is what we rezoning a are going to portion prior be to Diane: Yes. I checked with the City Attorney on this. MOTION Roger: I move to recommend approval of rezoning of Lots A through I Block 91 City and Townsite of Aspen amending the official zone district map from Commercial Lodge, Lodge to (P) Park. Richard: In the drawings that are before us encroachment into Durant beyond the lot line. has nothing to do with the present assessment. it still shows an I assume that that Diane: Correct. That is just a representation of the old copies. Roger: It also shows the Aspen A's. Perry: We are bringing them back! Bruce seconded the motion with all in favor. ELECTION OF OFFICERS Results of election of officers: Jasmine Tygre is Chairlady. Bruce Kerr is Vice Chairman. 5 PZM9 . 17 . 91 After discussion it was decided to change the bylaws of Planning & Zoning Commission in order to have a Second Vice Chair person in the event the Chair person and Vice Chair person are not in attendance. In this event it was decided that the person who would take this office would be the one with the longest term of membership on the Commission. Meeting was then adjourned. Time was 6:50pm. . 6