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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION
JUNE 16. 1992
Chairlady Jasmine Tygre called meeting to order at 4:30pm.
Answering roll call were Sara Garton, Richard Compton, Roger Hunt
and Jasmine Tygre. Tim Mooney arrived immediately after roll call.
David Brown and Bruce Kerr were excused.
STAFF COMMENTS
Roxanne: I am asking for a volunteer from P&Z to serve on the
citizen's Committee for City Shop Master Plan.
There were no immediate takers.
Leslie: Next meeting I will provide an update on the Rio Grande
Masterplan.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
There were none.
ZALUBA 8040 GREENLINE APPROVAL NON-COMPLIANCE
Leslie: Made presentation as attached in record.
He had to have his wall plans approved and finalized before we
would grant foundation permit. So we let a foundation permit but
he never acted on his foundation permit. He had an excavation
permit for the road and that has expired. The foundation permit
has expired.
What he did though is he went and he cut the road. But he didn't
go back in and stabilize the road. We are now going into our
second summer. We gave him his approval January 2, 1990.
We have had complaints on it for 2 years in a row from the
Rappaports who are below complaining of the erosion that is
happening off the road.
There were 3 conditions of approval that he did not adhere to at
all. The was a vertical tie-in wall and boulder wall "And shall
be constructed by the applicant and reviewed by the Planning Dept."
He has not even made an attempt to do anything with the vertical
wall and the boulder wall, the tie-in walls.
"The applicant shall adhere to the recommendations of Chen & Assoc.
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regarding slope stability during excavation of the road and shall
be reviewed by the Engineering Dept." We got a letter from Chen
that they inspected where he is going to do the road and they had
a list of recommendations to him on how he could stabilize the
road. We reviewed the letter. We accepted it. To our knowledge
Chen has not been back out there. And none of the recommendations
out of Chen have been adhered to.
"No spoils or fill shall be placed by the side of the road cut.
All excavated material shall be removed from the site if not used
in the construction of the road bed". He did remove all the
excavating materials but it was very clear to Jim Gibbard and
myself when we went out there right after he cut the road that all
the stuff sluffed off the side and what they did is they probably
took a backhoe and just raked it back. There were no barriers set
up when he cut the road.
The Rappaports also called and complained about that. That he cut
the road and everything was down over onto the Nordic Trail
easement which at the time wasn't a problem because it was in the
winter time. But in my opinion it was clearly a violation of the
conditions of approval. It was very, very sloppily done in my
opinion.
"The applicant shall revegetate the upper road cut beginning at the
hairpin turn." You will recall that years ago they built that big
road and that was going to be the access into the Zaluba property.
Then when we made a new access we said "Now if you don't need this
you need to start revegetating that. And nothing has been done.
I checked with the Building Dept. He did try and get permitted
and those have expired. His excavation permit has expired. I
talked to Rob Thomson who has been talking to the Rappaports about
this. We got a call last week from the Rappaports and again they
are concerned about the erosion and nothing has been done.
We have a whole file of letters where we have notified Marty
Picket, Joe's attorney, that we are very concern. That there are
problems and we have been told "We will take care of it". and
nothing has happened.
What we are recommending and what the P&Z needs to do is set a date
to then call in Joe and review his application.
Jed caswall, City Attorney: I characterize it as kind of a notice
to show cause saying that "Here were the terms of your conditions
of approvals. We believe that you are not complying with the
following specified facts on which we base that". Then say "Come
forward and defend yourself on this and if you can't, then the P&Z
may revoke your 8040 Greenline approval or impose such new
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conditions upon you to get your compliance".
We have tried. I have talked to his attorney. I have written
letters. We have had lots of promises and nothing is done. I have
heard from the Rappaports 2 or 3 times. I have heard from the
Rappaports attorneys. I think they have been patient and we just
haven't been able to get Mr. Zaluba to do anything.
Jasmine: On 8040 Greenline approvals, do we have a certain time
frame under which conditions have to be met? Sort of like a vested
rights thing? When we give 8040 Greenline approval with say 8
conditions, does he have a finite amount of time to comply with
those conditions?
Jed: Normally, no. Normally once you grant approval and if it is
vested and the approval can't change for 3 years. After the 3
years the approval is still good assuming you haven't put any time
limit on it it still is good so long as the underlying zoning and
code and everything else hasn't changed to somehow adversely
impacted the original approval.
As a general matter when a time limit hasn't been specified what
the courts like to say is "There is an implied reasonable time in
which to comply".
I think he has had more than a reasonable period of time in which
to comply. In my mind it is clear that he hasn't complied with
the conditions under which you granted him his approval. So that
may be one thing that you would consider if you were to revoke his
approval. That is to say "You have a certain amount of time or
your approval will be revoked".
Leslie: We did not specify that he had to build his house within
a certain time. The problem is he started and he cut the road.
And there were certain conditions of approval that went with any
beginning of activity.
He has no permits right now from the Building Dept. But we had
several conditions of approval with which he had to comply before
any building permits were pulled and he did get an excavation
permit to do the road and he cut the road but--
Roger: Perhaps we should think about bond completion in the future
when we look at the type of thing where it ends up being an
environmental problem.
Jed: Other than HPC I can't recall in the Land Use Code whether
there is authority for you to require a bond. This road that he
has put in is not a public road. It is a private driveway so there
might be some gray area on that.
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Roger: Maybe not a completion bond but a bond to restore it in
it's natural character.
Jasmine: Or a bond to protect the people in the house who are
having rocks fall on their roof.
Jed: They have a remedy right now if they want to. They could sue
him. There is no doubt in my mind that they could sue Mr. Zaluba
for trespass and nuisance and maybe some other theories and
prevail. But obviously they don't want to spend the time or the
money doing that and they feel the City is responsible because the
City approved that. And we are to a certain extent. I told them
and I told their attorney and he recognizes they could bring action
but they want the City to do something.
MOTION
Roger: I move to put on the agenda of July 7, 1992 the review of
the 8040 Greenline approval of Lot 3 of the Hoag subdivision.
Specifically the non-compliance of 8040 Greenline conditions with
respect to the access road.
Jed: Also that you instruct the staff to provide written notice
to Mr Zaluba of the hearing and setting forth the substance of what
will be heard--what the alleged violations are.
Roger: I will include that in my motion.
Tim: I think we should also inform the Rappaports so that we can
have them here. I also think we should have some alternatives to
present to Mr. Zaluba as far as what we propose to enact on him if
he doesn't comply.
Leslie: I will prepare a whole packet for you.
staff's recommendation and possible remedies.
There will be
Leslie: Do you want a site visit?
Jasmine: It might not be a bad idea for us to go and take a look
at this and see how awful it really is.
Richard seconded the motion with all in favor.
Roger made a motion to adjourn meeting.
Richard seconded the motion with all in favor. Time was 5:00pm.
Janice
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