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PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 20. 1993
Diane Moore, planning director, told the Board this is Aspen
Highlands general submission application for the county and is
comparable to the city's conceptual submission. This meeting is to
go over threshold issues and not to get into specifics of the plan.
Leslie Lamont, planning department, said it is staff's recommenda-
tion to use the Aspen Area Community Plan to review this applica-
tion because it gives the most recent guidelines. The Community
Plan is metro in scope. Staff looked at the housing, commer-
cial/retail and open space recreation sections of the AACP to
review the Highlands plan. Ms. Lamont said the Community Plan
emphasizes the need for a balanced community between permanent
housing and tourist accommodation. The action plan recommends the
rate of growth be reduced to 2 percent and recommends the growth
management allocation in the metro area be reduced to 7 free market
units, 53 affordable housing units and 24 lodge units. The plan
also identifies a peak population, tourist and residential, of
30,000 people. The action plan makes a strong recommendation to
modify the growth management system and not have such a heavy
emphasis on infrastructure but consider balancing the community and
the character of the community. The AACP suggests a more permanent
community is should be stressed.
Ms. Lamont reminded the Board to get to the recommended numbers of
free market and affordable housing, an analysis was conducted. Out
of this came the peak permanent population. Build out scenarios
were identified and neighborhood planning areas were used. Some
neighborhood planning areas were from past studies. The Cas-
tle/Maroon Creek NPA was used for the Highlands. When the build
out was used for each NPA, the existing zoning was taken into
consideration. Ms. Lamont pointed out the September 7 memo lists
the numbers of the Castle/Maroon NPA as well as the proposal for
the Highlands Village application. Ms. Lamont said the Highlands
numbers are wi thin the NPA buildout; however, the Highlands
application would use all the permanent residential and visitor
seasonal numbers for the entire Castle/Maroon NPA.
Ms. Lamont told Council the applicant proposes a one to one
conversion, the existing lodge unit allocation currently available
at the base of Highlands converted to 77 single family homes. The
goal of the AACP and the balanced permanent community was to
decrease the number of free market units available in the annual
quota for growth management. The Aspen Highlands project
represents 11 years worth of free market GMP allocations. Ms.
Lamont reminded the Board that the GMQS measures the impacts of
growth. The growth action plan emphasizes a need to balance the
communi ty. Ms. Lamont said the people that worked on the plan felt
the seasonal and second home community was already well represent-
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Ms. Lamont said the build out and analysis in the AACP were
premised on the existing zoning in the community. Only the housing
section of the AACP recommends upzoning for housing. Nowhere else
in the plan is rezoning recommended. Highlands is one of the few
areas zoned for a highly intense tourist use. This zoning reflects
a desire to locate tourist accommodations at the base of a ski
area. Ms. Lamont said if ultimate build out at the base of
Highlands is shifted and precludes short term tourist accommoda-
tions, other areas may be planned to accommodate more of the
tourist units. This would further skew the balance between the
permanent and tourist accommodations. Staff finds the Aspen
Highlands Village is inconsistent with the growth action plan for
two reasons; (1) the conversion from lodge to residential units
muddles the recommended rate of growth of 7 free market and 53
affordable housing units annually and (2) it skews what could
ultimately be the peak population of 30,000 units. The AACP does
not recommend rezoning anywhere else to accommodate the desired
result of a balanced community.
Bruce Kerr asked how the 7 free market units would be split between
the city and county. Ms. Moore said the consultants and staff are
working on this and it will be brought back to P & Z before the end
of the year. Sara Garton asked if the Board agreed to the
conversion idea, would there have to be rezoning. Ms. Lamont
answered yes. Ms. Garton said she likes the 2 percent growth rate
so that the city can watch the plan and adjust numbers if neces-
sary. Ms. Garton asked if staff reviews property tax to make sure
the impacts of this type of project will be paid for. Gideon
Kaufman, representing the applicant, told the Board they did a very
complicated analysis and detailed every impact. There was be a
positive cash flow for the community from this project in terms of
property taxes, RFTA, sales taxes, etc. Glenn Horn said they
analyzed every special district, the county and city general funds
and there are significant annual positive benefits to all these
funds. Tim Malloy, planning department, told the Board the county
hired a consultant to analyze this work regarding fiscal impacts.
There is agreement with the basic methodology. One outstanding
question is whether there will be a significant increase in the
mass transit system necessary to accomplish the reduction in
traffic, there may be increase in the cost to operate that transit
system. Horn agreed the applicants were not able to pinpoint the
costs to RFTA. The applicants show a recurring surplus to RFTA of
$450,000 annually given the present level of services; however the
services will probably change.
David Brown asked the size of the houses. Kaufman said 49 are
4,000 square feet and 28 are 6100 square feet. Brown said the AACP
says new residential development should be 60 percent affordable
housing This application appears to be in the 20 percent range of
affordable housing. It is in the right direction; however, it is
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not quite in compliance with the AACP in the percentages. The
percentage of affordable housing should be higher than this
application.
Horn pointed out Highlands area has been gathering allotments over
the years. They received some credits for tearing down the Maroon
Creek lodge, as well as 49 credit from the Lodge at Aspen High-
lands. Horn said there is a financial consideration of being able
to finance and build a hotel, the type of mix that would be
desirable at Highlands as well as on-site affordable housing. The
affordable housing had never been part of the 300 room hotel with
no on-site housing. Horn pointed out when the original approvals
were given in 1986, it was still all right to take care of
affordable housing by cash-in-lieu payments.
Horn told the Board the project will not work if a change in the
mix for the base development is made. Horn said the single family
homes are too important to the project to string the approvals over
many years. Kaufman said in 1983 there was a mix that worked, the
lOdge-hotel. In 1993 this does not work. To accumulate residen-
tial units from 1993 to 2003, the economics would change again.
Horn said the initial premise was to take the mix assigned to the
project which received general submission approval, the two large
hotels, and try to define the impacts associated with that mix and
keep the impacts for the new mix relatively the same or less. Horn
said they looked at employee generation and trip generation as
those of most concern to the community and tried to define an
equitable trade out to the community if allotments were switched
from tourist accommodation to residential units.
Horn said in theory with growth management, when allotments are
granted by city or county, the staff is to start preparing the
budgets to deal with the impacts of the allotments that have been
granted. Horn said if the units change from tourist accommodations
to residential, it should not affect the way the local government
provides services. Horn said this does not address what is the
appropriate mix from a community balance. Horn said in the vision
scenario of the AACP there was a vast number of rooms in the
Castle/Maroon area allotted to this site. The AACP has plugged in
the 750 rooms associated with the vision component. Horn pointed
out other than Highlands, there are not a lot of areas in the
Castle/Maroon NPA that will be developed.
Horn said the Highlands plan suggests a conversion of lodge units
to single family homes. Horn noted single family homes can be
phased much easier than a large hotel which comes on line all at
once. Horn said the applicant is willing to agree to a phasing
schedule as part of the PUD agreement to guarantee the community
when the impacts of this project will come on line. Horn said
there is more to the growth rate than how many units come on line
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at a time. Horn said the AACP does not supersede the growth
management plan. A major feature of the 1976 growth management
policy plan was to determine a growth rate that this community can
sustain based on the ability to provide services and the fiscal
impact associated with growth. There was a recommendation in the
AACP that one year after the adoption of that plan that the city
and county would come back with a fiscal assessment of what it
would mean to pitkin county to grow under the rates suggested in
the AACP. Horn said there are implications for the city and county
to grow at the rates suggested in the AACP. By skewing the growth
rates to affordable housing, there is a subsidy to affordable
housing both when it is built and annually.
Horn said the community balance issue is only looked at from one
perspective in the AACP, which is the balance between resident and
visitors community. Horn said community balance should be broader
than that. Horn said there are more tourist beds in Aspen than in
Snowmass Village; however there is more ski terrain in Snowmass.
This means transporting skiers from Aspen to Snowmass. Increasing
the ski terrain available in the Aspen area would help to deal with
the balance of beds, ski terrain and transportation.
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Horn said the factors used for population projections in the AACP
were 3 people per lodge unit and 3.1 persons for each free market
unit. This forms the basis for the 30,000 population cap set in the
AACP. This figure influenced the applicants in figuring out the
conversion rates between a lodge room and single family house.
Horn said the average household size in the county in a 3 bedroom
house is 3 people, which is the same as was used for projections
for a lodge room. Horn said for a 5 bedroom house the county code
suggests the population would be 3.5 people, which also equates to
a lodge room. Horn said for every bedroom added over 3 bedrooms,
there would be an additional .25 lodge rooms associated with the
trade out. The conversion factor for a lodge room to a single
family house would be 1.5 lodge rooms for a 5 bedroom house and 1
lodge room for a 3 bedroom house. Horn requested P & Z comment on
whether or not conversion is a plausible idea.
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Kaufman stated there are approvals of 349 lodge units in place for
the base of Highlands. There is growth targeted for this area in
the AACP. The applicants tried to look at the impacts and examine
how they could deal with these impacts, like transportation. The
applicants tried to examine the existing problems and come up with
solutions. They came up with a village that worked in terms of
mitigating the impacts and tried to tailor the project to what is
reality today. Kaufman said converting lodge rooms to "second
homes" is still dealing with the same sector of the population.
This is not converting housing suitable to long term residents or
affordable housing and moving it into another category of popula-
tion.
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Kaufman said the applicants would like P & Z to agree to flexibili-
ty, to agree there is a need to accommodate the growth wi thin
different structures as long as the impacts are dealt with. The
measuring stick should not be nothing versus this proposal but
should be the existing approval of 349 units versus this project.
Kerr asked what is contemplated for the phasing. Horn said the
first year would be the capital improvements, like parking
structure, water and sewer. The second season would be the
construction of either the hotel or the condominium units, 'Skier
services and retail in the village. There is no base lodge
anticipated in this project. The second season may also see the
beginning of construction of single family houses. Horn said the
construction would be an 8 or 10 year process.
Brown said this proposal allows transportation services in focused
development to occur in the built up community and focuses single
family homes around this transportation hub rather than up the
Maroon Creek valley. Roger Hunt said his concern about the
conversion from lodge to single family is the disbursement from the
focal point, out of lodges, into homes which would work adversely
to a transportation system. Horn agreed this is a problem for
single family residences as it decentralizes. A municipal utility
district was added including a dial-a-ride program targeted at the
single family houses. This, in conjunction with lack of parking
downtown, would make transportation attractive to single family
houses. Kaufman pointed out they will control access out of the
village for the single family houses. Ms. Moore asked if the
applicant plans to compete for lodge units in the future. Horn
said they will compete for 20 lodge units this year. The competi-
tion has been put off until October 1st.
Malloy pointed out the applicants have not submitted a GMQS
application for any residential units to augment conversion. Horn
said the applicant cannot commit to buying the project without
knowing he has an allotment and a project. Competing on a multiple
year basis will not work for this applicant.
Tim Mooney said the conversion idea does not work for him; it is
not an equitable arrangement. Mooney said the applicant needs
expensive single family home sites and the community feels it needs
a balance between single family home and affordable housing.
Mooney said this does not fit the vision of the AACP. The
applicants might have fit the conversion formula more closely to
the percentages of affordable housing envisioned in the AACP. This
project will change the character of the community and the way the
community works. Mooney said he has problems with the underlying
premise this plan is based on because of the conversion factor.
Mooney said the community does not need 77 more second homes.
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Brown asked if the balance were more in keeping with the AACP,
would this be acceptable to Mooney. Mooney said yes because ,this
growth is planned for the base of skiing, in an area sited for
growth. Mooney said if there was a real effort to help the
community with employee housing, resident occupied housing, and
transportation and more of the needs of the community, he could
support it. Mooney said if conversion is the heart of the
application, what is the trade off for the city and county. Horn
said if affordable housing is increased, there are neighborhood
objections to the amount of development in the area. Mooney said
the conversion does not work for him without more benefits for the
community. Mooney said this project seems to be a project for
growth's sake rather than balancing out the needs of the community.
Mooney said the number of units has to remain the same but within
those numbers the applicant should create a better balance of
community needs. Mooney said the employee housing should go in
first, then the skiing.
Roger Hunt noted the AACP came up with a balance of what makes a
viable community. This balance should also be applied to the
Highlands Village. The transportation system should be viable year
round rather than seasonal. Sara Garton said the AACP did not
envision these 77 homes as seasonal homes. Ms. Garton said she
does not support converting lodge units to seasonal homes. Ms.
Garton agreed she would like to see a better mix of affordable
housing.
Brown said he does not have a problem with conversion; however he
does feel this should be more in balance. Brown said what should
be balanced or mitigated is the difference between the previously
approved square footage and this request. Horn said the first
approved project is a 30-person dorm, 300 lodge rooms and 49
condominiums. There was no community balance in this project at
all. Horn said this application is trying to get more balance ~y
bringing the employee housing on-site. What P & Z is saying ~s
that more balance of mixes of affordable housing is needed in the
added units at Highlands.
Kerr said if the choice is what is already approved versus this
plan with some revisions, he would hope the community would get
behind this plan.
Ms. Moore presented a memorandum outlining parking, transportation,
development of a gondola connection, trails, and the connection
with adjacent developments. Ms. Moore said one issue is increased
VMT (vehicle miles of travel), which relates to the quality of life
as well as air quality considerations. Ms. Moore said including
all the mitigation techniques proposed by this applicant, there is
still an increase in VMT. Staff feels the net increase has to be
mitigated. Ms. Moore said the plan is geared around a high
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utilization of transit. Some issues are the point of origin for
the transit riders, how to insure the residents ride transit.
Ms. Moore said an important aspect of the community plan is the
recognition that the community cannot keep building their way out
of problems. The traffic demand management program is the way to
address the behavior of drivers in the area. There will be a paid
parking program at the Highlands. Brown said it would be a good
idea to refer this to RFTA and get their comments. Brown said
impacts on all transportation, including coordinating school
traffic and commercial entities up the Maroon Creek valley, have to
be looked at. Ms. Garton complimented the applicant for addressing
so many different areas of transportation other than just vehicles.
Mooney pointed out the Forest Service has restricted traffic to the
Maroon Bells for years. The applicant should do everything they
can to keep the VMT to a minimum. Mooney said he favors the inter-
mountain connections.
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