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ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MINUTES OF APRIL 12. 2006
434 E. COOPER AVE. - DEMOLITION, PUBLIC HEARING ....................................... 1
100 E. BLEEKER - MAJOR DEVELOPMENT - CONCEPTUAL ................................. 1
716 W. FRANCIS - VARIANCE - PUBLIC HEARING .................................................5
ASPEN INSTITUTE - MINOR DEVELOPMENT - PH ................................................. 6
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Chairperson, Jeffrey Halferty called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m.
Commissioners in attendance: Sarah Broughton, Alison Agley, Derek
Skalko and Jason Lasser. Michael Hoffman was excused.
Staff present:
Amy Guthrie, Historic Preservation Planner
Jackie Lothian, Deputy Clerk
MOTION: Sarah moved to approve the minutes of March 22nd; second by
Derek. All in favor, motion carried.
Disclosure:
Rod Dyer is representing 716 W. Francis. Jeffrey pointed out that Rod has
done consulting for him but not on this particular project. His decision will
not be influenced.
434 E. COOPER AVE. - DEMOLITION, PUBLIC HEARING
Sarah stepped down.
MOTION: Derek moved to continue the public hearingfor 434 E. Cooper
until May 2lh; second by Jeffrey. All in favor, motion carried.
Certificate of no negative effect issued for 423 N. Second Street - George
Hamilton house on Triangle Park. Approval for a door on an altered fayade.
100 E. BLEEKER - MAJOR DEVELOPMENT - CONCEPTUAL
Affidavit of posting - Exhibit I
Amy relayed that this is a 3,000 square foot lot adjacent to the yellow brick
school. It is on a comer lot. It contains a miner's cottage that has a one-
story addition done in about 1985 and a detached non-historic garage along
the alley. The applicant is requesting conceptual, demolition, relocation and
variances. The proposal is to demolish the non-historic construction, pick
the house up and move it forward two feet. One of the challenges is that this
historic house is almost as wide as the lot. They want to replace the non-
historic construction with an addition separated with a connector pushed
back to the alley so they are asking for a few setback variances. They are
also asking for aFAR bonus. Staff recommends approval of the demolition
and approval ofthe on-site relocation. There is information about a
Victorian house immediately to the east and it is important that a
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relationship is maintained between the two buildings. Maybe the house
should stay exactly where it is or the connector could be shortened up. Staff
supports the two-foot move. In the memo staff overlooked the east side yard
variance for light wells and a combined side yard variance that will be dealt
with at final. This is a comer lot and that makes it harder to make sure that
the addition doesn't overwhelm the cottage. A natural evolution of the
building needs to occur. As a suggestion maybe the west fayade of the
addition, which is two stories tall, could have some variation to it. Possibly
a popping out piece or moving the side entry into that area to give it more of
its owned entity. We also have a concern with the proposal to have a deck
on top of the connector.
Rally Dupps - Exhibit II - new elevations
Rally said they put a bay window in off the master bedroom on the west
elevation that sticks out 30 inches. The window picks up some clues from
the historic house, which are the bay windows. There is no yard so the deck
is very important and we want to preserve it. In order to make the deck
more palatable on the west side it has been cut back to where it doesn't
overhang over the door. The decks stops right now at the connector. The
deck handrail will be as transparent as possible. The connector piece will be
very transparent and glass.
Rally said we addressed the idea of the front door. Staff suggested moving
the side door out of the connector. We moved the door over to the south
elevation of the new residence so from Garmisch Street you just see
windows and glass and no door.
Mitch Haas said the west elevation is significantly better because of making
it clear and not mimicking the historic structure. It doesn't look like one flat
wall anymore. There is also a request for the 500 square foot FAR bonus.
The idea is if we get the bonus we will come back at final for the request to
sever the two TDR's off the property. Mitch said he feels the FAR bonus is
warranted because we are removing a non-historic detached garage and we
are doing some preservation work and restoring some non-historic windows
on the fayade facing Garmisch Street.
Amy clarified that on the idea of having a side entry staffis sometimes
concerned that the front is being abandoned but that isn't happening here.
The historic front door is coming to an active living space.
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Mitch said the house is moving 1.8 feet forward. We are building to the
alley.
Variances
Amy said the rear yard setback variance requirement is ten feet and they are
only providing six inches. We noticed for 9.6. They need a 2-foot east side
yard variance and a 5-foot west side yard variance. The setbacks that were
neglected to be included in the memo are to allow light wells that are larger
than required in the east side yard and the combined side yard setback
vanances.
Clarifications:
Sarah clarified that a new door is proposed on the east side of the connector
and a new window, drawing 8.
Sarah also said on the east side of the historic resource there are windows.
Rally said windows exist on the east and they are new. He would like to
open them up and see what was originally there.
Derek asked why the deck extension on the north elevation is going out as
far as it is because you may potentially get ice damage. Rally said the owner
wanted the deck as large as possible. They sacrificed and pulled the deck
back on Garmisch Street.
Derek also asked about the new bay window on the west and why it comes
out 30 inches. Rally said coming out 30 inches would make that area nice
for sitting. They added the bay window in order not to have a flat fa<;ade
which was recommended by staff.
Jeffrey asked Rally if they studied any other roof options. Rally said the
view is over the top of the historic house. In order to be worthy of the bonus
he felt that the gable should go the opposite way and the roofline should step
down, as you get closer to the historic house.
Jason said he feels the deck will not be used in the winter. Rally said he
disagreed. After March 2151 the sun gets a little more of a western aspect
and it is also higher. As the sun comes around the deck it would be used 9
months out of the year. There is a zero yard and the deck is the owner's only
outside area.
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"-. Jeffrey asked for an explanation of the restoration areas. Rally said there are
four areas. The first one is on the W elevation, bay window, drawing 4.
Rally feels double hung windows previously existed. The second
opportunity on the W elevation, drawing 8. We are exposing at least 30%
more of the north historic side with the addition. On the east elevation, the
existing windows are vinyl and once we open up the framing we will be able
to tell what existed. The garage and driveway will be removed to return to
the historic streetscape.
Chairperson, Jeffrey Halferty opened the public hearing. There were no
public comments. The public hearing portion of the meeting was closed.
Commissioner comments:
Sarah pointed out that the revised drawings still do not address the scale
issues that staff brought up. Having a protruding element two stories up in
the air is very different in terms of scale and mass. In terms of the door
location vs. where it was either one is OK. Moving the house 1.8 is OK.
The 8-foot connector with the overhangs coming east does not meet our
guidelines. It would be better if the connector were a true connector without
the deep overhangs. Sarah also said the setbacks and demolition requested
are appropriate. Sarah said before she can approve the FAR bonus further
revisions are needed.
Derek said the 8-foot connector is strong and important. Regarding the
overhangs he is OK with them. Regarding mass and scale, the existing
historic resource is such a linear element and the west elevation is a little too
extreme.
Alison said on the west fa<;ade she was picturing something different than a
pop out at the master bedroom. Possibly the pop out could word if other
fenestration was added to it. Moving the door to the addition is acceptable.
Possibly there could be a compromise on the deck and have it more centered
and back from the historic resource. The site is tight and moving the house
1.8 no one will notice. The setbacks and FAR bonus are warranted. The
measures that you are doing to the restore the house to its historic form are a
good effort and warrant the FAR.
Jason said the variance for the setbacks are OK due to the constraints ofthe
site. The mass in verticality could be broken up with materials. There is an
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opportunity to make the pop out 30 inches and incorporate it with a west
side entryway. The 8-foot transparent connector would be more successful
without the overhang to the east. Regarding the FAR if the verticality was
broken up he could support the bonus.
Jeffrey also agreed that the site has constraints. The flat plane of the western
elevation is affecting the mass and scale. The materials are for final but the
vertical nature of the proposed siding accentuates the height and maybe that
needs restudied. The components of the FAR bonus include restoring the
historic resource to its original openings and landscape improvements for the
true historic orientation to the site. The connecting link on the new scheme
is definitely more transparent. The two-story wall is causing some issues
because it is a comer lot you are under more scrutiny. The volume and scale
of the link works well and doesn't need adjusted. We need to make sure the
integrity of the historic siding is maintained. Cutting the comer back would
be a good thing but we need to see how that is detailed. The bump out in the
master bedroom is a little problematic; wall vs. glazing ratio is in conflict
with the historic resource. Restoring the historic resource warrants the FAR
bonus.
Mitch said everything said seems to be workable.
MOTION: Sarah moved to continue the public hearing and conceptual
development on 100 E. Bleeker until May 24th; second by Derek. All in
favor, motion carried.
716 W. FRANCIS - VARIANCE - PUBLIC HEARING
Affidavit of posting - Exhibit I
Amy relayed that the project that took place in the early 1990's. It is a
miner's cottage on a 9,000 square foot lot and the project was reviewed and
a change order came in without realizing that a setback problem came about.
The new owner would like to resolve his non-conforming lot. Staffis
recommending approval for the variance. The code reads that garage area
only can be 5 feet from the rear yard setback but living areas need to be 10
feet back and they only have five feet. They need a five-foot variance for
the master bedroom. Staff recommends approval.
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Rod Dyer represented the applicant. The lot is 7,500 square feet, 2 Y, lots.
The original drawings that Cunniffe's office did showed that the master bath
being setback additional 5 feet from the face of the garage; however,
sometime during construction they applied for five feet and that was
approved but in researching the project we found out that this was a
violation and we are here to amend it. The property next door is in the same
situation and we do not know if they got an encroachment etc.
Amy said the previous owner had put railroad ties in the right-of-way and
that situation needs resolved and grass planted.
Jody Edwards, attorney for the client added verbiage for the motion to
further clarify the resolution. In the event the City Engineering Dept. shall
not grant or after granting shall revoke any such encroachment license, the
lack of that encroachment license shall not invalidate the variance granted
hereby.
Amy clarified if the railroad ties are removed and grass replaced they do not
need an encroachment.
Steve Briggs said he would work with the Parks Department.
Chairperson, Jeffrey Halferty opened the public hearing. There were no
public comments. The public hearing section of the meeting was closed.
MOTION: Derek moved to approve Resolution #8 for 716 W Francis as
proposed with the addendum commentary. The applicant will pursue an
encroachment license within 30 days. Failure of the Engineering Dept. to
issue a license or subsequently revoke the license will not invalidate the
variance granted; second by Jason. Motion carried 5-0. Roll call: Jason,
Derek, Alison, Sarah, Jeffrey.
ASPEN INSTITUTE - MINOR DEVELOPMENT - PH
Affidavit of posting - Exhibit I
JeffBeckus, architect
Jim Curtis, institute representative
The applicant would like to pursue and environmental artwork by Andy
Goldsworthy. They have contracted with him and have a specific design to
present. The institute is not completely designated, only certain buildings
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and the meadows around the building. The location where the sculpture is
_. going is designated historic. We do not have any information that Herbert
Bayer designed the meadow. No historic resource is being destroyed. We
don't have guidelines that are specific to this. The one sited in the memo
talks about making revisions or additions to landscape that are consistent
within the historic context. Staff supports the project.
Jim Curtis said he hopes everyone find this rock wall to be fun and
entertaining.
Jeff Beckus said the primary interest of the institute is to bring people
together in a common ground. When Andy saw the context of the site and
looked at Red Mountain it occurred to him that what makes sandstone is ore
and ore is the common element in all-living things. The wall will be made
of red sandstone brought in from 7 continents. For the last six months he
has been researching whether that can be pulled off. Sandstone will come
from China, India, Scotland, Australia and Middle East. 55 to 65% of the
wall will come from Colorado sandstone. Andy is all about human's
connection to nature so the wall will come from nature through the building.
Jeffrey asked if there was discussion about how the wall ends up near the
parking area. Jeff said Andy would work on the termination.
Chairperson, Jeffrey Halferty opened up the public hearing. There were no
public comments. The public hearing portion of the meeting was closed.
Board comments:
Jason said he supports the idea of the sculpture tied into the landscape.
Sarah said it is great getting a renowned artist and it goes along with the
Aspen idea. This art is counter to the other earth forms on the campus.
Everything else is away from the buildings and now this art is interacting
with buildings and the wall is dividing. You can't sit on the wall either and
it is so foreign. Sarah does not feel this particular artwork is appropriate for
this site.
Jeffrey pointed out that our guidelines are somewhat vague in trying to make
a position either way. Jeffrey is concerned with the beginning and ending
point of the sculpture and how that is detailed out. He can support the
project.
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',. Jason inquired about the pointed top vs. a flat top on the sculpture. Jeff said
the idea of the pointed top is really to create a precise interface of the floor
of the building. Jason and Derek are in support of the sculpture.
MOTION: Jason moved to approve the minor development for the artwork
at the Aspen Institute as designed; second by Derek. Motion carried 4-1.
Roll call vote; Jason, yes Derek, yes; Alison, yes; Jeffrey, yes; Sarah, no.
MOTION: Jeffrey moved to adjourn; second by Derek. All infavor, motion
carried. 5-0.
Kathleen 1. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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