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Aspen Plannin!! & Zonin!! Commission Meetin!! Minutes Au!!ust 01, 2006
DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST ................................................. 2
TIMESHARE CONVERSION CODE AMENDMENT (PINES LODGE LLC) -
WITHDRAWN - .......................................................................................................2
JEROME PROFESSIONAL BUILDING SUBDIVISION & GROWTH
MANAGEMENT REVIEW .....................................................................................2
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Aspen Planninl! & Zoninl! Commission Meetinl! Minutes AUl!ust 01, 2006
Jasmine Tygre opened the regular meeting of the Aspen Planning & Zoning
Commission in the Sister Cities Meeting Room at 4:55 p.m. Commissioners Ruth
Kruger, Steve Skadron, Dylan Johns and Jasmine Tygre were present. Excused
commissioners were Brian Speck, John Rowland and Brandon Marion. Staffin
attendance were Joyce Allgaier, Jennifer Phelan, Community Development; Jackie
Lothian, Deputy City Clerk.
DECLARATION OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST
None stated.
PUBLIC HEARING:
TIMESHARE CONVERSION CODE AMENDMENT (PINES LODGE LLC)
- WITHDRAWN -
PUBLIC HEARING
JEROME PROFESSIONAL BUILDING SUBDIVISION & GROWTH
MANAGEMENT REVIEW
Jasmine Tygre opened the hearing for the Jerome Professional Building. Jennifer
Phelan provided the notice.
Phelan explained that the applicant was the Jerome Professional Building
Condominium Association represented by Mitch Haas. The property was a 12,000
square foot lot located at 201 North Mill Street in the mixes use district. Currently
the existing building contains offices uses; the proposal contains demolition of the
existing building and replaced with a mixed use building containing 6 free market
units, 3 affordable housing units, and 10,750 square feet of net 1easeab1e
commercial office space. Phelan said as proposed this application meets the
dimensional requirements of the underlying mixed use zone district with regards to
setbacks and maximum height at 32 feet. This property has a fair amount of grade
differential and the floor area allowance in the zone district was 2 to 1, which is
24,000 square feet. The individual uses within the building have individual caps;
the proposal requests an increase in the commercial and free market housing to be
reviewed under special review. Proposed were 20 underground parking spaces in a
parking garage accessed from the alley, which is unimproved at this time; Council
approved an application for the alley from the property adjacent to this property to
improve and open the alley. 2 of the 20 spaces were in a tandem configuration so
it only counts as 18 spaces.
Phelan said there were growth management reviews for a new mixed use building,
free-market residential units and affordable housing units. The mitigation for
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employee generation was 6.09 full time employee equivalents; as proposed there
were 3 two bedroom affordable housing units, which allows for mitigation for 6.75
employees. The proposed net livable square footage was 9,000 square feet for the
free-market units and 3,099 square feet for the affordable housing mitigation. The
affordable housing has to meet certain design standards that being a minimum of
50% of the net livable floor area has to be above the natural or finished grade,
which ever was higher; 100% of these units were above or at natural grade.
Housing Guidelines require affordable housing units to be a minimum size of 950
square feet for 2 bedroom units; 2 of these proposed units were in excess of that
and 1 unit was 6 square feet shy of that minimum; the housing board can
recommend up to a 20% reduction in the net livable square footage, which was
reflected in the housing referral. The applicant preferred rental units and staff
recommended these be "for sale" units, which was a recent change to the land use
code.
Phelan said the commercial design review was a final decision at P&Z level; there
were a number of basic standards that were designed to foster proper commercial
scale and character. The review standards deal with the primary relationship to the
street even on this difficult site.
Phelan said that Special Review was a final decision for the Planning Commission
and the applicant requested special review for the commercial and free-market uses
on the property; the applicant can ask for up to a 1 to 1 ratio. The applicant is
asking for a .88 to 1 for the commercial use, which is just over 1500 square feet in
floor area and for the free-market multi-family use the applicant requested .87 to 1
at 1,142 square feet in floor area. Phelan said the standards for Special Review
talk about compatibility with regard to mass, height, density, configuration, open
space, landscaping, setbacks and insure that the design is compatible with the
character of the surrounding land uses. Staff feels that the current massing and
configuration could be reworked and should be resolved a little bit more
particularly along the Mill Street pedestrian portion and some reworking of the
massing of the building, which could better handle the additional square footage.
Staff recommended changes to the design of the building that could accommodate
the requested additional floor area and create a more compatible building with the
downtown.
Phelan said the Planning Commission makes a recommendation to Council on the
Subdivision review. Staff believes that this application meets the applicable
subdivision review standards in the land use code.
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Ruth Kruger asked if the "for sale" units were subject to 30% or 33% rule and
requested this affordable housing rule be researched and brought back to the
Commission.
Kruger asked the rear height of the building. Phelan replied that the architects
would clarify that.
Steve Skadron asked if the wording on page 6 of the memo was correct. Phelan
explained that the applicant may be allowed to pick the first purchasers of the
affordable housing units by approval of the housing board.
Jasmine Tygre asked if the affordable housing units mitigated for the commercial
and free-market residential uses. Phelan said that the mitigation was not counted
in a cumulative manner; you don't have to mitigate for the commercial and then
mitigate for the free-market. Phelan said the code reads "when affordable housing
units are provided on site the individual mitigation requirements are not required to
be added together for a combined sum as long as the largest amount of required
mitigation for anyone Growth Management request is met." Tygre asked if the 3
affordable units were the mitigation for the entire project. Phelan replied that was
correct. Tygre asked how different these dimensional requirements were from the
previous underlying zone district.
Tygre requested a table showing the proportions of the spaces being dedicated to
each use.
Herb Klein stated that Joe Krabacher, Carl Larsen and he were owners of the
condominium units in the Jerome Professional Building and the architects were
Lipkin Warner. Klein introduced Michael Lipkin, David Warner, JeffOrsu1ak and
Mitch Haas.
Klein provided the history of the building beginning with it being 26 years old,
which was the old Aspen Dairy property. They were the first or second
condominimized office building in Aspen; Joe Krabacher and Herb Klein own
their office spaces on the second floor and Carl Larsen owns the first floor and
leases the spaces out. Klein said they looked at a renovation and to add-on to the
office building and it just did not work; the only thing that made sense was to
scrape and replace. Klein said they wanted the office space for their own use and
the affordable housing for their employees. Klein said the Housing Authority
approved these units as rentals.
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Klein said that there were 20 parking spaces and only 18 would count so they will
pay cash-in-lieu and may come back for a special review to show those tandem
spaces do work. Klein noted they were hiring a parking consultant to see about the
possibility of adding more parking maybe another sub-grade level.
JeffOrsu1ak set up a slide show that included rotation of the building and Michael
Lipkin presented a town site depicting the Jerome, Obermeyer, this site and the
surrounding areas. Lipkin said there were many opportunities along Mill Street for
this building with the likelihood of redevelopment down Mill Street for a more
desirable pedestrian experience from Puppy Smith Street up to Main Street. Lipkin
spoke about the new building design being only 7 feet taller than the existing
building. Lipkin stated that there were really no expansion possibilities but with
the new mixed use change in the code there were possibilities for the
redevelopment of this building. Lipkin said the street frontage on Mill Street
became quite active and a change in the walking experience down to the Post
Office or C1arks Market.
Dave Warner spoke about the way the building looks in detail from the slides; the
view from Main Street down to Puppy Smith. Warner said that all the floors can
be accessed from the corner; the base of the building greets the pedestrian; the
alley contains the trash area and opening to the garage; the west side has open
space. Warner said an important part of the massing was breaking the building up
into different masses and layers. Warner went though the floors of the building
pointing out the residential and commercial uses with the building stepping back
from Mill Street.
Allgaier asked for the height dimensions. Warner stated the current site had a
planter on the Mill Street side but it wasn't user friendly along the sidewalk. Tygre
asked if the bottom of the staircase to the top of the building was 32 feet. Warner
responded the top of the staircase was at grade. Klein explained that the existing
sidewalk on Bleeker was lower than the natural pre-existing grade of the property.
Allgaier restated that the steps follow the finished grade; the measurements were
taken from the existing grade or preexisting or finished grade, whichever is lower.
Ruth Kruger asked if the alley has been vacated. Warner replied that it was platted
but not active. Herb Klein said that the alley was not vacated. Tygre asked how
far from the western property line the building was located. Warner said it was 15
feet setback to create the green space. Tygre asked how high the staircase was.
Warner replied about 6 feet at the highest point. Warner said that changes were
made to the Mill Street side after meeting with staff including storefront windows
and canopies to create continuity for the places.
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Mitch Haas said that the only changes were the special review requests were for
the affordable housing units to be rental units; the condition on rental units were if
they were out of compliance for a year then it becomes a for sale unit in the
housing lottery or if the owners choose to make the units for sale then the units go
to the housing lottery. Haas said the housing board recommended the units be
rental units and the growth management review stays with the housing authority at
its sole discretion. Haas said the commercial special review was modest at 1455
square feet of additional commercial floor area and netted out it was only 293
square feet of actual commercial space because of the pro rata shares attributed to
circulation and they asked for an additional 1442 square feet for the free market,
1018 of that number was in circulation and common areas so it was only 424
square feet of actual free market space.
Haas said they suggested parking passes for the parking garage across the street for
the affordable units during the week so that parking spaces could be used during
the day for the office and commercial spaces. Haas said that they were a live work
situation with rental units and have a lot less need to use their cars.
Haas said there were items in the resolution that needed to be cleaned up with staff.
Dylan Johns asked ifthere would be a cars shuttling back and forth to the
municipal parking garage. Haas replied potentially yes. Allgaier said this parking
issue needed more thought. Klein said there was sufficient parking by code for this
building but they would prefer to have more parking available for short term
clients; they felt it was a more efficient use of the area. Joe Krabacher said the
current parking for the building included 13 or 14 spaces and people angle park.
Haas noted that residential units in the building will be entitled to residential street
parking permits.
Johns asked about the alley being opened. Phelan said that the alley would be a
dead end alley and the first person to want to use the alley would be required to
make those improvements with the Blue Vic application.
Steve Skadron asked in feet was a significant increase in height. Lipkin replied
that there was a drawing showing the change in height.
Tygre asked how much commercial space the existing building has. Klein replied
that it was all office with a gross area at 9275 square feet and net leasable was at
7550.
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Public Comments:
Bert Myrin said that he lives in the neighborhood; the cars have to go into the
crosswalk to see around the current planter. Myrin said the parking was tight in
the neighborhood and there was a municipal garage across the street. Myrin said
for someone to have to move their car into the Rio Grande garage and walk back to
work in that building and then at night move their car again seemed rather silly.
Myrin asked ifthere was room in the code to vary the parking for the affordable
units.
Jennifer Phelan submitted letters into the record from Don Dixon and Wy1ey
Hodgson.
Kruger said that she asked for clarification of the rules but she did not think that it
would change her position or vote; she asked if the commission could vote on this
tonight. Johns said that he had a couple of unanswered questions. Skadron asked
if there were sufficient answers on the parking matter. Kruger said they were
within their rights to present the parking as it was and were not outside of the rules
although you may have questions as to whether or not you like it or not. Allgaier
said that she wasn't clear on the parking for the employee housing as
recommended by Housing and staff would like to review this aspect along with the
Parking Department. Kruger said that she was considering a condition for assigned
parking and did not know whether the applicants were interested in or not. Tygre
said that rather than give any of the items a short shrift that she would like to see
the parking ironed out prior voting on the project; the rest of the commission
agreed.
Klein said that if it troubles the commission about the movable spaces, it was not a
do or die situation; if the commission was not comfortable with that then the
assigned spaces would work. Tygre said that it would be helpful to get the opinion
from staff on the use of the public garage; she noted that in other municipalities
there were vouchers given by businesses for their patrons to use in a municipal
garage, this might be a better option to consider that might be beneficial to the
businesses and staff might have other ideas. Allgaier agreed that staff would like
to do that as well. Johns said that as Ruth said they do comply with the parking
requirements but it was a very congested area for parking.
Allgaier said that staff would like to work on clarification for the percentage mix
of uses in a mixed use development and to work with the applicant regarding
fixing the resolution to bring it back to P&Z.
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Kruger requested clarification on the employee housing at 30% or the first round
and there was a balance to remembering the new rules and making sUre that the
commission applies the law properly. Haas stated that the 30% doesn't apply any
more and it was under the Growth Management Rules on Affordable Housing.
Allgaier said staff would clarify in the next staff report.
Johns said the project was designed within the parameters and the special request
for more floor area, which was not a great deal and had the incentives for on-site
affordable housing. Johns said that the rental units make a lot of sense especially
in a commercial building.
Skadron complimented the applicant and appreciated the pedestrian friendly
character of the building and liked the way it broke into different masses and
stepped back.
Tygre said that her concern was the mix of uses and the building was more than
doubling in size; the free-market residential use was troubling in terms of the
proportion of the mix. Tygre said that this did not seem to get to what she felt the
mixed use should be and instead free-market residential was being subsidized.
Tygre said there were a lot of good things about this project and liked the
employee housing on site and agreed that the rental made sense. Tygre voiced
concern for the mass of the building and the fayade ofthe staircase because
looking at the building upward from the bottom of the steps to the roof the building
it looked gigantic even though she knew that it was measured within the height
limit at grade. Tygre showed concern for the regulations and the way this project
was proposed that the request for additional FAR does not fulfill the criteria in the
review section of special review.
Kruger agreed that the staircase was troubling but the site constraints were very
difficult beginning at the westerly south corner and dropping down in every
direction.
MOTION: Ruth Kruger moved to continue the Jerome Professional Building
Subdivision & Growth Management public hearing to August 15th; seconded by
Steve Skadron. Roll call vote: Johns, yes; Skadron, yes; Kruger, yes; Tygre, yes.
All infavor, APPROVED.
Meeting adjourned at 6:55 p.rn.
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