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Home My WebLink Aboutminutes.council.19730808Ramel's Deli & Mayor 'Pro tem DeGregorio opened the public hearing by stating application is made by Ramel Grill, Inc., Deli & Grill, Inc., for a beer, wine and spiritous l~quor license, premises located a~ Liquor Concept 600 Building. City Clerk reported the file is in order, posting and publication Application have been made; fees have been paid; premises are not located within 500' of a school; presently ~5 outlets of the same type within the neighborhood; applicant does show a right to possession of the property; no pre~ious application has been made for these premises ~thin the last two years; survey map submitted shying existing outlets. Attorney Marry Kahn was present representing the applicant. Stated the file contains the menu of the restaurant which shows this restaurant as a unique operation with specialty foods not found anywhere else in the community. Photo's of the interior and exterior were submitted. Mr. Dave Burnhagen residing at 232 West Main, lodge owner for four years, was present and testified that his guests have had problems getting into the good restaurants in Aspen. MoSt or about 50% of the restaurants in the community do not accept reservations and they have had to stand in line. People expect liquor at the restaurants where they go. Based on conversations with guests, they are looking for restaurants that are unique and small. Feel the deli will appeal to those people. Do not feel it will be an attraction to those people who just want to drink. Mr. Billy Dittmer, residing at the Ullr Lodge, resident for seven years. Mr. Dittmer state his appeal for this restaurant is it carries a lot of European foods which cannot be found anywhere else. Friends go there for the same reason. Petition bearing approximatel~ 90 signatures was submitted supporting the application. Fol- lowing letters were also submitted: "This letter is to confirm my relationship with Kurt Ramel, whom I have known person- ally for the past two years. I have had many business dealings with him and his credit and integrity are above reproach. Mr. Ramel is operating the type of specialized European delicatessen that has long been needed in Aspen, and I am certain that it will be operated as nicely as was the Star- board Tac'k, when he was managing that facility. Europeans and people that are acquainted with European tastes have long been familiar with the necessity of having an alcoholic beverage at the time they eat. I believe the same is true in Aspen, having rather sophis- ticated clientele, and would wholly endorse and recommend the granting of a liquor license for this fine new establishment." C.M. Clark "I have Kurt Ramel from the Starboard Tac'k. I have 'known him to be a fine person running a good restaurant and believe his new restaurant and Kurt would do well with a liquor license in Ramels Deli. This part of town at present is in need of his restaurant and this license would ~elp sustain his business." Joe Luciani "I feel it would be advantageous to allow Ramels Deli a liquor license to compliment the food service he provides. I think that the general opinion is that beer & wine in particular are especially appropriate with the European decor & food he serves, plus the fact that there are no other liquor licenses in or around his location. Gary C. Bogue Roaring Fork Express Co "In my opinion the community would be well-served by allowing a liquor permit for the Deli." Fred Kemp Mr. Ramel stated, had had opened his operation on, July 14, 1973. Since that time 80% to 90% of the people ask for liquor. With the type of food served,.pe0ple expect liquor. There will not be a bar on the premises. Many,of the specialities now being served, require al- coholic ingredients. Attorney Kahn stated the location is within waIking distance, there are no existing out- lets in this vicinity2 Councilman Behrendt questioned if a beer and wine license might be more appropriate in this location. Mr. Kahn stated_the restaurant will*not have a bar type atmosphere. Mr. Ramel reported he is thinking of serving special fruit drinks which require, liquor. Councilwoman Pedersen questioned if the restaurant would b~¢losing at 12:00 as indicated in the lease. Mr. Ramel stated yes. City Attorney Stuller pointed out to Council the uniqueness of the operation or types of food are not under consideration as relates to this application, but rather the needs~of the neighborhood and the desires of the inhabitants. Mr. Kahn stated with the growth that has occurred how can Council say that 35 outlets is sufficient over 36. There have been no petitions or remonstrances filed against this ap- plication. Mr. Bur~hagen stated Mr~.Colestock~was issued a license because it was a unique operation, know Mr.. Ramel personally and Council should look at what he is trying to do. Mr. Kahn stated it is hard to visualize that 35 outlets meet the desires and a 36th outlet would not. Mr. Dittmer stated he.likes'to eat there because he does not have to circle the town for a place to park, fine it convenient. There being no further comments, Councilman Behrendt moved to close the public~hearing, seconded by Councilwoman Pedersen. Ail in favor, motion carried. Councilman Breasted moved to tagle this application till the next regular meeting. Seconded by Councilwoman Pedersen. Ail in favor, motion carried. Manager Campbell outlined to Council the number of disturbances over the weekend. It Liquor License was pointed out that bars seem to be the places in which disturbances originate; the Policy liquor code does not cover the type of disturbances that occur. City Attorney Stuller stated ordinances can be prepared that put additional-obligations upon the licensee in addition to those in t he liquor code. Councilman Breasted moved to have the City Attorney prepare appropriate ordinances for Council consideration. Seconded by Councilman Behrendt., All in. favor, motion~carried:. Councilman Walls moyed that fromthe City Police records those establishments that have re- ords in regard to disturbances be served with a notice of~.a public hearing on their liquor license. Seconded by Councilwoman Markalunas. Roll call vote - Councilmen pedersen, may; Breasted, ~my; Markalunas, aye; Walls, aye; Behrendt, aye; Mayor Pro rem, Degregorio, nay; Motion not carried. Police Chief Ritchey and Street Superintendent Smith submitted to Council a proposal which Traffic encompasses the area from Aspen to Spring and Main to Durant. Proposal reverts bac'k to Circulation all two-way streets~with the exception of the Rubey Park area; stop lights at Aspen Street Proposal Monarch Street, Galena Street, intersection of Original and Cooper and alternate light at Spring. Chief Ritchey pointed out a survey that was conducted by the State shows 25% to 30% more traffic on the streets than the week prior to Christmas in 1972. East/West flow of traffic on Main Street shows 1475 cars per hour. Ail streets running north and south would ~ through streets from Main to Durant except for Aspen Street which will run straight thru to the No. 1 lift area. Ail east and west street~ except for Main and Durant would.be stop streets at every intersection. In a sense have created a loop being Main to Original and to Durant to Aspen Street. Ail parking on the west side of the streets would be angle parking. Par'king spaces would be increased to abou~ 140 spaces. Stop lights would.not be available for at least six months. Suggest the stop sign at Original and Cooper be changed so that Highway 82 traffic would not stop and this would alley&ate ~he problem there of cars coming directly into the downtown area from Indepen- dence Pass due to confusion at this intersection. Suggestion was made of better signing at the Original and Cooer Intersection for highway designation and better enforcement of parking too close to a corner. Forced turn for right lanes was discussed; keeping a one-way system for the loop was suggested. Mr. Campbell showed to Council the sign drafted by the staff which would encompass all re- quirements for par'king- in one sign. Cost for the sg~ns would be about S2500.00. Mr. Campbell further pointed out the proposal is not perfect, but recommend its adoption and work out the~problems as project progresses. C?uncilman Behrendt mowed that we adopt this particular pattern with the exception of stop lzghts and. encourag~ the City Manager.to proceed. Seconded by Councilwoman,iPedersen. Ail in .favor, motion carried. Attorney Stuller ~ubmitted to Council drafts of the survey and petition to be curculated. Mail Survey Prior to the regular meeting, City Counczl interviewed Fitzhugh Scott III, Marty Kahn, Appointment, Spencer Schiffer, Cheri Stickney and Martin Hershey. Municipal Judge Councilwoman Pedersen moved to nominate Fitzhugh Scott III as Municipal Judge, seconded by Councilman Behrendt. There being no further nominations, Fitzhugh Scott III was elected municipal judge by unanimous ballot. Councilman Behrendt moved to appoint Mr. Scott for a two year term. Seconded by Councilwom. pedersen. Ail in favor, motion carried. Councilwoman Markalunas moved to adjourn at 11:20 p.m., seconded by Councilman~eh~endt~' ~l~ in favor, meeting adjourned. k.__~orrazne Graves, Czty Clerk