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ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION - MINUTES
DECEMBER 05. 2006
COMMENTS ............................................................................................................ 2
MINUTES ................................................................................................................. 2
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST ...............................................2
ASPEN HIGHLANDS VILLAGE PUD AMENDMENT ....................................... 2
SMUGGLER RACQUET CLUB ............................................................................. 8
LODGE AT ASPEN FINAL PUD ........................................................................... 8
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ASPEN PLANNING & ZONING COMMISSION - MINUTES
DECEMBER 05. 2006
Jasmine Tygre opened the regular Aspen Planning & Zoning Meeting in Sister
Cities at 4:30pm. Members Ruth Kruger, Dylan Johns, Steve Skadron, Brian
Speck (4:40) and Jasmine Tygre were present. John Rowland was excused. Staff
in attendance were: Community Development, Joyce Allgaier and Jessica Garrow;
John Worcester, City Attorney; Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk.
COMMENTS
Jasmine Tygre said there was an ad in the Sunday Daily News paper for the
Dancing Bear Residences that said "it's a place where your neighbors are friends
not hotel guests". Tygre asked what do you think these units are if they are rented
out if they are not being used by the people who bought them; is what was
supposed to be a hotbed. Tygre said probably not but hoped that the code revisions
would address these kinds of issues. Joyce Allgaier said that she notified them in
writing that their application specifically said that they would list the units with a
rental company and do that pro-actively.
MINUTES
The minutes from 11107 and 11121 were postponed until the next meeting. Steve
Skadron noted a correction on page 6 of the 11/07 minutes. The correction was
made.
DECLARATION OF CONFLICTS OF INTEREST
Dylan Johns said he was conflicted on the Lodge at Aspen and Smuggler Racquet
because of pending business deals with the one of the parties involved in each of
those projects. Ruth Kruger said that she was conflicted on the Lodge also. John
Worcester asked if Ruth was currently employed by the Lodge or had a financial
interest in the outcome. Kruger replied no. Worcester suggested that she did not
have a conflict.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING (11/21):
ASPEN HIGHLANDS VILLAGE PUD AMENDMENT
Jasmine Tygre opened the public hearing for the Aspen Highlands Village PUD
Amendment. Jessica Garrow said that notice had been provided at the previous
meeting. Garrow said that Hines Highlands Limited Partnership was the applicant
represented by Glen Horn; the application required 2 land use reviews. The first
was a substantial PUD Amendment to construct a mini golf course and a change in
use from Retail to Free-market Residential. Staff recommended in favor of the
mini golf course and against the change in use in building 2 and the associated
subdivision.
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Garrow said the miniature golf course was proposed between buildings 2 and 4 and
the area was skier access so it was unencumbered by any structures; the mini golf
course was designed to continue the current use in the winter on it. Because of this
staff found this was consistent with the existing plat and did not require a
subdivision approval for the mini golf course portion of the application. Staff
found the mini golf course was consistent with the approved PUD and met all
applicable review criteria; it will increase the vitality of area by providing an
attraction in the summer months and met the goals and economic sustainability
sections of the Aspen Area Community Plan.
Garrow said the change in use was to change 1 retail space to 1 free-market unit (4
bedroom unit), which does not need a growth management allotment because the
development right was approved in the original PUD and the town home was never
built so the right exists. Garrow said the proposed unit was located on the 1 sl floor
of building 2, which contained other residential units all above the 1 sl floor and the
Ritz was located in this building. Staff recommended against the change in use
because it does not meet the goals of the Aspen Area Community Plan. Staff felt
that the retail space was at grade along the Highlands main pedestrian area and was
intended and best functioned as retail space. Staff felt that residential would
decrease the vitality ofthe area. Garrow said that the change in use will adversely
affect future development in the area; the retail space was currently vacant and
staff felt that in the future the space will be filled with retail or office. There were
other free-market homes being built in the area.
Glen Horn said Bob Daniel, Kevin Dunnett and Donna Grower were from Hines
Highlands Limited Partnership and were available to respond to questions. Andy
Reagan was the leasing agent for the retail spaces at Highlands. Horn stated that
the retail space was an un-built space and there was an approved town house for
the village neighborhood, which would be transferred to the Village core of Aspen
Highlands. Horn said this was a conversion of vacant retail space that has never
been occupied to a residential use and there was no growth management allotment
necessary because it was already granted for another unit in the project. Horn said
that all of the mitigation for this unit already exists; the transportation, air quality,
and the housing.
Horn said that development of the mini golf course was to get more activity going
in the summer at the base of Highlands and were not unusual to see at the base of
ski areas in the summertime.
Horn provided the history of Highlands beginning with Whip Jones and Gerald
Hines then the Pitkin County approvals and the annexation into the City of Aspen.
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Horn said that there was a 5 year public review process that entailed some 105
public meetings; the plan evolved in the review process to what you see today.
Horn said that this project continues to evolve from the mountain to the base area;
this proposal from the applicant was to fine tune this project to make it more
successful and viable rather than having empty commercial space in the base area.
Horn said out of the 190 approved units 112 were affordable housing units; there
were 73 tourist accommodation units, 14,000 square feet in restaurant space. Horn
noted that all the mitigation required by the city and county has been done and
audits have been done.
Horn displayed a photo of the Village Core and explained what was where; there
was residential on the first floor and showed where it was located. Horn explained
the pedestrian pattern and the vacant retail space located in building 2, which was
proposed for the change to residential (on the west side of the building). Horn
explained the uses in buildings 3, 5, 7, 2, 4 and 8 that shows a mixed use project.
Horn said there was a merchants association that was responsible for the summer
activities such as the movies and other activities. Horn said that there were about
105 to 110 days a year when Aspen Highlands Village was loaded with people
going to the ski area. Horn said they do not consider this change to be a significant
change in the PUD; the PUD was found to be consistent with the Aspen Area
Community Plan and compliance with the code at the time it was approved. Horn
walked through the 8 focus areas of the Aspen Area Community plan; the last two
numbers 7 and 8 were primarily orientated towards the townsite of Aspen;
consistency of architecture with the historic structures and historic character of the
town. The design issues address within the built environment of the townsite of
Aspen. Horn said the focus area of managing growth, transportation, housing,
economic sustainability, parks, open space and environment and the arts, culture
and education. Horn said the Aspen Highlands project was the most successful
transfer of development rights of most projects; 20 TDRs were transferred from the
county's rural and remote district to within the urban growth boundary to Aspen
Highlands Village, so this was consistent with managing growth. Horn said that
the transportation needs have been met as well as the affordable housing with a
60/40 project at the base of a ski area. There was a Nordic Trail connection that
links it to the Moore Trails, the Aspen Valley Ski Club House, the High School
Lift, and the donation of approximately 13 acres of Maroon Creek bottom land to
the County for Open Space. The project provides all of the dormitory housing in
building 4 and dedicated to use by MAA in the summertime; in the winter it was
used by Ski Company employees. Horn said that this project was still consistent
with the Aspen Area Community Plan and felt it was better to have an occupied
residential space in building 2 rather than to have an unused vacant retail space.
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Bob Daniel said that building 5 had a residential component on the ground floor so
virtually in every building within the community there was residential units on the
ground floor. Daniel said that they have been trying to rent this particular retail
space between 4 and 5 years.
Andy Regan with Snowmass Real Estate Company said that she has been doing the
leasing at Aspen Highlands for about 1 Yz years and it was not an easy job; there
were plenty of people looking but can't be there if they require foot traffic so
basically people were looking to pay no rent. Regan said it was difficult to rent the
retail space.
Kevin Dunnett said the plan for the golf course was preliminary with 18 holes
without the old school kitschy golf course but this would challenge the serious
golfer down to little kids. Dunnett said there would be nice wild flower plantings
in between the holes; it will be a nice addition for everybody. Dunnett said that
Copper Mountain and Beaver Creek have courses that were really busy with a lot
of energy surrounding the golf course.
Steve Skadron asked about the previous PUD Amendments and where was the
FAR moved around to. Garrow replied that it was in the free market units; moving
a few hundred square feet from one to another but never reached the retail spaces.
Skadron asked how the Ritz defined tourist accommodations. Daniel said the
concept was imbedded in the PUD where there was a requirement that unit can't be
occupied more than 30 consecutive days during the high season or within 90 days
in a calendar year. Horn said there was central management that would be
typically provided by a hotel; a concierge, room service and check-in. Skadron
asked if those units go into the rental pool. Horn replied they were available in a
rental pool through the Ritz. Skadron asked ifthere were topographical changes
on the golf course. Dunnett replied the average slopes were challenging at the toe
of the hill from Iguanas deck and they will concentrate most ofthe holes in the flat
area with slight terracing as the grading gets steeper maneuvering the holes parallel
with the slope. Skadron asked the total FAR for the 112 units. Horn replied there
were 403,000 square feet of non-exempt floor area; the affordable housing in the
Village core (townhouse neighborhoods and center) was 68,490 square feet, the
Maroon neighborhood (west side) there was 13,570 square feet of affordable
housing, the Thunderbow1 neighborhood had 24,750 square feet of affordable
housing. Daniel said that the tourist accommodation was 155,000 square feet.
Horn said that in the county there were not floor area calculations in the mix and
the TDRs get backed out also.
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Dylan Johns asked ifthere were regulations for uses that could occupy ground
floors in the building 2 space. Horn responded there were no prohibitions. Johns
asked if there would be hardscaped areas with the golf course plan. Dunnett
replied the holes were designed on concrete slab with exterior kind of durable
carpet material. Dunnett did not have any photos or imagery for this course. Johns
requested some imagery for this course to see how it manifests itself.
Ruth Kruger stated that she was the rental agent for Aspen Highlands and spoke of
listing the retail space and never being able to rent any of the spaces.
Jasmine Tygre asked where the condo meeting room space was located in building
2. Horn replied there was a 700 to 800 square foot space reserved for the operation
of the hotel and the space in building 2 has never been utilized for a meeting room.
Daniel said that the Ritz Carlton built some meeting space internally in their
building for their functions.
Joyce Allgaier asked where the miniature golf course was staged from; where
would one sign up to play, rent their clubs and pay the fee. Daniel responded that
there was the potential linkage of food and beverage that would be anticipated for
those services at the Ritz Carlton, which owns that space.
No public comments.
Tygre noted a letter from Tom Ward in the packet.
Kruger commented that this particular space was very large with a number of
different users that wanted to use it (hair salon, gym, furniture) but because of the
parking situation during the winter the 450 parking spots were used for SkiCo.
The space doesn't have that commercial user traffic and was somewhat
dysfunctional as a retail space and has been vacant for 6 years; it would be viable
as a residential space and supported the change. Kruger said it was a compatible
use with the adjacent uses of the Ritz Carlton.
Johns said there was shortage of office space and asked if there was a way to
allocate some parking to this space. Daniel answered as a part of the entitlement
they were restricted to 435 day skier parking spaces at the base of Aspen
Highlands and it was a requirement of the PUD that those 435 spaces be paid
parking and part of the transportation requirements. Garrow said that providing
spaces would require a PUD Amendment. Johns said that he could not support the
conversion to free-market residential without a more exhaustive way of showing
that something like an office use wouldn't be able to work. Johns said for the golf
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course he did not feel like he understood the manifestation of what it would be to
know whether or not it would work. Johns said the hardscape would change the
look of the base of the mountain and hopefully it would be a positive for the
Village. Johns said that there did not seem to be a conflict with the miniature golf
and the PUD. Johns said the conversion of the unit did have some conflicts with
the Aspen Area Community Plan.
Skadron shared some of Dylan's concerns and was sensitive to the difficulty in
making retail work at Aspen HigWands and converting this to residential would
forever prevent it from becoming something that might possibly be economically
viable. Skadron said the golf course would be a great addition to summer activity
at Aspen Highlands; he had no objections to it.
Brian Speck sympathized with the planning of Highlands. Speck liked the golf
course to keep bring people into the community. Speck felt that changing the retail
use was disastrous to the pedestrian make-up for the future but he also saw the
argument for it.
Kruger said that this was a disastrous situation for parking. Kruger stated the
miniature golf course was a great idea.
Tygre asked where the people would park if that space was converted to
residential. Daniel said as a part of the PUD there were a certain number of spaces
for the day skier parking structure and under the plate there was parking for the
tourist accommodations, affordable housing and an allotment of about 1 space per
1500 square feet of commercial space. Tygre asked how big the free-market
residential unit was. Garrow replied approximately 3200 square feet. Daniel said
there were about 3 parking spaces if it were residential and if it were commercial
there were 4-5 parking spaces available but not for shoppers. Tygre stated concern
for changing PUDs. Tygre said the City P&Z came in afterward because the
County was the reviewing body; the project was annexed after the county
approvals and the results may not have been what a lot of people hoped for. Tygre
said that despite her aversion to the change in use, she could not see how a
commercial use would bring a lot of vitality because there would be the need for
pedestrian activity and parking to make be vital; an office would not bring any
vitality to the area or would residential. Tygre said that she would hate to see
another request in the future to add commercial space after this retail space were
converted to residential. Tygre said the mini golf course would be helpful to bring
people into that area in the summertime and agreed with Dylan on obtaining more
detail about the way it would affect the pedestrian experience. Tygre suggested
separating the issues.
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MOTION: Ruth Kruger moved to approve Resolution #33, series of 2006 to
approve a substantial PUD Amendment for the construction of a mini-golf course
and to approve a requested PUD Amendment for the conversion of retail
/condominium meeting space to one free-market residential unit at 133 Prospector
Road. The resolution further recommends to City Council the approval of the
requested subdivision associated with the conversion of the office/retail to free
market residential. No second - motion dies.
Skadron requested a schematic for more detail on the golf course prior to approval
for it. Johns felt that he could support the golf course as long as it did not become
too Disney.
MOTION: Dylan Johns moved to approve the resolution to approve a substantial
PUD Amendment for the construction of a mini golf course; seconded by Brian
Speck. Roll call vote: Kruger, yes; Skadron, no; Johns, yes; Speck, yes; Tygre, yes.
APPROVED 4-1.
MOTION: Dylan Johns moved to approve the resolution to approve the
requested PUD Amendment for the conversion of retail/condominium meeting
space to one free market at 133 Prospector Road. The resolution further
recommends to City Council the approval of the requested subdivision associated
with the conversion of the office/retail to free market residential with the
restriction of a maximum of 3 parking spaces allotted to that free market unit.
Seconded by Ruth Kruger. Roll call vote: Speck, no; Skadron, no; Johns, no;
Kruger, yes; Tygre, yes. DENIED 3-2.
PUBLIC HEARING:
SMUGGLER RACOUET CLUB
MOTION: Ruth Kruger moved to continue the Smuggler Racquet Club
Conceptual PUD to December 19'\' seconded by Steve Skadron. All infavor.
PUBLIC HEARING:
LODGE AT ASPEN FINAL PUD
Jasmine Tygre opened the public hearing for the Lodge at Aspen and explained
due to time constraints there would just be a presentation by the applicant and no
public comments. The public notice was provided. Joyce Allgaier said that she
would present the staff analysis at the next meeting.
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John Sarpa said they were into the process for 3 years now and I year from
conceptual approval from City Council. Sarpa said Council provided clear
direction to look at height, mass and bulk of the building, street issues, integrate
with the East neighborhood. Sarpa said this project was lower, less of an impact
on the neighbors and the rest of the city.
Sarpa utilized a picture of the street and stated that they have worked with the city
staff, the Canary Initiative, Engineering Department and RMI and other
conservation engineers. Sarpa said keeping in mind energy conservation and
safety issues what was the best way to address South Aspen Street. Sarpa said not
surprisingly it was to heat it with a hybrid of the snowmaking system that allows
that street to stay dry and safe in the coldest temperatures but also a hybrid with
ground source heat pumps. Sarpa said there would be two systems to heat that
street, the traditional one to heat the boilers and the ground source; their engineers
would come back on January 16th to speak about the cutting edge in the
environmental sense.
Sarpa said that the building complex would also be made more efficient than the
current codes require. The ground source heat pumps also cool the building and
they will also work with CORE.
Sarpa said they would pay for the new lift. The lift will be operational prior to the
construction of their building.
Sarpa noted the building would be reduced in height; the building had a new
design that had 2 major areas that were set back 80 to 90 feet back with porte
cochere entrances. Sarpa said there were 4 distinct areas broken up with different
materials, windows and roof pitches, which Bill Poss will describe at the next
hearing. The bridges was lowered and flattened. There were additional setbacks
from Juan Street and from Lift One; the Lift One side entrance was removed. The
affordable housing was moved and better located; the current proposal houses 115
people, this project now has about 77% of employees housed in the city and only
23% outside of the city. Sarpa said they would go over and above the energy
conservation from the code.
MOTION: Ruth Kruger moved to continue the public hearing to January 16'h;
seconded by Steve Skadron. All in favor.
Meetin adjo~d at 7:00 pm.
Cki~ L~thi~ ~ty Clerk
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