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COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF DECEMBER 20. 2006
Chairperson, Bill Dinsmoor called the meeting to order at 8:45 a.m.
Commissioners in attendance: Terry Butler, Mark Goodman, Stan Hajenga,
Don Sheeley. John Starr was excused.
Staff present: Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy City Clerk
Jeff Woods, Director of Parks
Tom Rubel, Parks Supervisor
Scott Chism, Parks landscape architect
Eric Klanderud, ACRA representative.
LIGHTING
Mark said the holiday lighting is inadequate.
Tom Rubel said they added 6,000 lights and they have over 30,000 lights on
the mall. There are 4.35 miles of lights around down which equal 72,000.
lights in total.
Scott Chism addressed lighting on our malls in general. He has tried to push
the idea of upgrading the lighting but council is not receptive. Bill said
maybe we should start and do a little bit at a time.
Stan asked what Council's concerns are. Scott said council feels by adding
more lights Aspen will look like a city. Council is also concerned with light
pollution. Scott pointed out that the ARC has new lighting and it is not
polluting. There are lights available that will provide the proper lighting
needed for our malls.
Shae said she talked to council member individually and the issue has been
the particular consultant. They can't seem to get behind him. We can hire a
different consultant for lighting purposes.
Scott said we need support to come up with some kind of lighting plan
before the infill structure is put in place.
Mark pointed out that the additional lights on the mall were put up after
CCLC went forward. For next year we need to get someone to coordinate
the lighting and get a plan ahead of time. Mark said he met with Singer
Lighting who did the Sardy House tree. He said he is willing to consult for
free. For next year we should consult with him to have the issues addressed
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and the coordination in line. Singer made very good suggestions. It would
make a lot of sense to consult with him.
Scott said regarding lighting in general the idea would be to use the fixtures
that we have to keep a shielded light that directs it to the ground.
Don asked if there were enough electrical outlets for the lighting.
Jeff Woods said we have enough power right now with the LED lights
because they use one tenth the power.
Mark commended the Parks Dept. on the good job they did on the lighting at
Rubey Park and the gazebo at Paepcke Park.
Jeff said in reality council is on hold with the moratorium and the election in
June. Jeff also agreed that the infill structure needs to be addressed with the
lighting. Jeff said he is willing to meet with Singer after the first of the year
to work on a lighting plan. CCLC suggested a work session be set up with
council to give a lighting presentation on updated the mall lights. Storefront
lighting might be a collaborative in the presentation.
Eric Klanderud said anything that will draw people downtown the ACRA
would be favorable with.
Shae suggested a XMAS lighting contest for next year for businesses on the
mall. They can do a contest for lighting up their storefronts. There are two
issues XMAS lighting and mall lighting in general.
Terry said the fire heath is being used well by young teenagers and they are
pulling chairs up from everywhere. Maybe two iron heavy benches could be
put there instead of all the chairs. Scott said the idea of the chairs is doing
what it is supposed to do. People are sitting around the hearth. Terry
suggested additional chairs. Jeff said they can provide more chairs around
the hearth. He also pointed out that the police are patrolling the hearth on a
regular basis.
Eric said initially there was opposition about the pavilion but it draws people
into the mall area. After the season is over the pavilion can be assessed.
There are 150 contacts per day at the pavilion. It is turning into a positive
feature.
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Terry addressed the bulletin board and its tackiness. It is an eye sore. We
need a design that contains the messages in an orderly fashion. Jeff said we
can design something separate or redo it after the season. Jeff pointed out
that you can't hide a visitor center and we want to activate that corner.
Don said in the design of the building the glass awnings are not functional
and the snow leaks down into the building. The drain also does not work.
Eric said the City is involved and aware of the leaking glass awnings.
Hopefully this will be resolved before the weekend. With the old kiosk
people didn't know ifit was a newspaper stand or what. The new pavilion is
definitely an information area.
Mark said from the back side it looks bad and possibly it should be moved to
the fire hearth. Eric said ACRA did look at other places and the place
chosen is the only area that the fire department is comfortable with.
Scott said we are trying to activate the area by the hearth and having two
icons there would make it difficult.
Jeff also agreed that the back side of the building needs worked on. The
magnetic message wall needs addressed.
Stan said the pavilion will be where it is until spring. The board is battling
around stuff that we addressed at a previous meeting.
SNOW REMOVAL
Bill said the sidewalk is a public area. The sidewalk by Paepcke Park was
brushed and nothing else up or down the street. Is it possible for the brush
machine to do all the sidewalks on their way back into town? Tom said the
Parks Dept. would have to double their staff. Individual businesses contract
for remove snow. The City does not do snow removal for businesses except
on the mall.
Stan said after the brush goes through the cross walks, the corners get
extremely slippery. Possibly Parks can keep a close eye out at the area of
Durant. Tom explained that the brush is used instead of chemical. Tom said
he will put ice melt down in the shaded areas. The crew tries to time the ice
melt as best possible.
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Jeff said they will evaluate the area on Durant and see if they can add more
chemicals.
TENTS & TABLES ON MALL
Staff requested information from the board regarding prohibiting tents and
tables on the mall during high peak seasons. We are getting too many
requests and would like some direction from the CCLC in order to come up
with a policy.
Don suggested that the non-profits be local only. He is not in favor of
regulations.
The board unanimously agreed that nothing should be on the mall during the
4th of July weekend.
Shae suggested that a certain amount of days per month be allowed and it
would be first come first serve.
Staff explained that the maximum days allowed on the mall are 10.
Stan said the decision should be case by case.
Shae asked Eric if the ACRA could serve hot chocolate or cider at the
pavilion during the holidays. Eric will check into it. Bill said our sense is to
look for an opportunity to engage our guests with some kind of openness.
Bill requested staff contact council for a work session to address the
moratorium and where Council is headed. What are the outcomes etc. Staff
to invite the ACRA.
MOTION: Bill moved to adjourn; second by Mark. All infavor, motion
carried.
Meeting djoumed at 10:30 a.m.
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. Strickland, Chief Deputy City Clerk
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