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COMMERCIAL CORE & LODGING COMMISSION
MINUTES OF JANUARY 3, 2007
Bill Dinsmoor called the meeting to order at 8:30 a.ill. Commissioners in
attendance: Mark Goodman, Stan Hajenga, Don Sheeley and Shae Singer.
Terry Butler and John Starr were excused.
Council member I.E. DeVilbiss
Debbie Braun, ACRA
Moratorium:
Bill stated that he feels the moratorium is a drastic measure. What is the fear
to take such an extreme measure without a good dialogue before doing so.
We need the opportunity to have a real dialogue before making any more
amendments to the moratorium ordinance.
What mechanisms are needed and what are you (council) looking for etc.
Bill also wanted J. E. to address what the implications are about going inside
an historic building.
J.E. DeVilbiss: What you see is a council that is a different composition
than previous councils. The votes were there to do the moratorium. The
most recently enacted moratorium is broader than what I would like. There
is substantial sentiment on council and among others that we should regulate
the ability to change the interiors of buildings to which the public has normal
access. That is what this ordinance is aimed at. This ordinance is designed
to keep the Red Onion as the Red Onion. This is the first step to regulate the
change of use in an interior of a building.
Shae said it would always have to be for example a pet store or a retail store
in that certain usage.
Debbie said if the Red Onion goes under as a restaurant only a restaurant can
go in that space. J. E. responded yes, as the ordinance is written right now.
Bill asked what is the concern? J. E. said loss of change. The ordinance
should say preservation of significant buildings. The Red Onion would be
the loss of an historic use.
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Don interjected, you mean capitalization v.s. socialism. Don said he has a
problem with the ordinance. A person has a right to put whatever they want
in their space.
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Shae pointed out that if you talk to in town managers most ofthe people that
shop at the high end stores ship their merchandise.
Bill said Aspen has reinvented itself at least three times. Is your concern
that c.ouncil doesn't want Aspen to change? J.E. said that is part of it. I. E.
pointed out that Telluride hasn't changed at all.
Bill said Telluride is struggling. I. E. said Telluride's council just met with
our council and we did not hear anything about Telluride struggling.
J.E. asked the board what they see wrong with what council is doing now.
Bill said why would a business what city council to describe what can
happen inside someone's property.
Bill Where has this been tried before. I. E. said Telluride does it but they are
under the National registration for the entire town.
Debbie Braun said from the members their fear is if someone sells their
business after a successful business season that the City will have empty
businesses. Will this moratorium cause the economy to turn down.
Debbie asked about the process. Chris Bendon said they would come to the
Community Development director first and there is an appeal officer.
J. E. said the purpose is to provide for reasonable discussion.
Shae said council has changed the first floor commercial by not allowing
real estate companies on the first floor. Thing are always changing.
J. E. said thqnoratorium by its nature is for a limited duration. During the
period the landuse code will be amended or not amended. It is to hold on
and look at the city. It is to prevent things from going away.
Bill said businesses apply to the Community Director and there is an appeal
which might involve another board and then to council.
Bill said you mean the ordinance is to establish where historic or significant
things are inside the building. To preserve the near and dear uses.
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Stan ask what or when is the ability of the public to have input before
landuse code changes? 1. E. said you need to outline the concerns and get on
council's agenda.
Stan said Council needs to know the proposed amendments before they go to
a public hearing.
Chris Bendon said he will circulate the drafts of the proposed ordinance to
the lodges and CCLC.
Shae said council is trying to restore what aspen is. The historical nature can
be retained with a change in use.
Debbie said people come to Aspen to see our historic buildings.
Bill said he would not preserve interior use at all. People have property
rights.
Don asked if other members of council would be willing to listen. J. E. said
he feels the majority of them would. Don said he agrees with Bill the
invasion of property rights is inappropriate.
Stan said he gets people every day talking about the loss of the Mother Lode.
The Hotel Jerome process worked. He is holding back and wants to see if
this process is going to work. We need a lot of input. There needs to be
moderation in the ordinance. The real issue is how do we put ourselves in
the decision process.
Mark said legislation puts an upward pressure on realestate and rentals by
limiting the supply.
Debbie suggested having meetings like we had in the spring in order to get
input from the community.
Bill said he would like a list of towns where a moratorium such as this has
worked.
Mark said he is not sure that council should legislate.
Meeting adjourned at 10:00
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