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Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
November 20, 1979
The Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission held a regular meeting on November 20,
1979, at 5:00 P.M., in the City Council Chambers. Members present were Olof
Hedstrom, Roger Hunt, Welton Anderson, Nancy McDonnell and Lee Pardee. Also
present were Karen Smith and Sunny Vann and Jolene Vrchota of the planning
Office, City Attorney Ron Stock, Lou Buetner and Dan McArthur of the Engineer-
ing Office.
Approval of
Minutes
Hunt moved to approve the minutes of September 15 and
October 2, without any corrections, and September 26
with a correction on Page 5, paragraph 4, line 19,
change the word number of am to service. Pardee
seconded. All in favor, minutes approved.
Commissionmember
Comments
Nancy McDonnell suggested concerning the Housing Over-
lay that has been in our packets many times, wouldn't
it be helpful to have a cover sheet to tell us the ex-
act direction we're going at the meetings, what changes
have been made and questions and comments made at pre-
vious meetings.
Karen Smith agreed to attempt to have such a sheet pre-
pared but at this time will try to verbally address
that at this meeting.
Olof Hedstrom felt that this would be a good idea and
most essential in understanding and assist in produc-
tivity of this matter.
Pardee had attended the work session with the City
Council on the Overlay and would like to summarize
what happened for the commission. At first there was
real opposition to the idea of additional steps and
legislation and the inital thought was what should be
done to go back and look at Growbh Management, then
agreed but that it would intail a two year process.
They agreed that something should also be done at this
time since the overlay seems to be a workable idea, it
does incorporate the three specific related steps. I
think now that they are more familiar and if we are
close, it would be wise to work on a scheduled work
session with Councilmembers.
Public Hearing
Castle Circle
Zoning
Karen Smith asked that the commission procede with this
after the Opal Marolt Zoning hearing. In recalling the
this was tabled at the last meeting pending the discus-
sion on Opal Marolt and there was some confussion on
which should be heard first.
Opal Marolt
Property Zoning
Karen Smith introduced the application and showed the
applicants are represented by Don Ensign, Bob Joyce
and Carly Wood and any questions may be directed to
them. The Public Hearing is to consider a recommenda-
tion by the Planning and Zoning commission on zoning
for a parcel of property known as the Opal Marolt pro-
perty just west of Castle Creek bridge. The applica-
tion is being made to annex the property to the City
of Aspen and the question before the P & Z Commission
is to recommend what zone for said property. Some
recommendations made be wanted to the City Council in
regards to any stipulations regarding the annexation.
The property is approximately 35 acres, and does in-
corporate some steep slopes falling into Castle Creek
and across Castle Creek, it is boardered by R-15 zoning
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on the Eastern city side, by AF 1 zone on the Southeast
portion, SPA at Water Plant, current zoning is AF 2
with conservation zoning and AF 2 zoning to the West.
There are pockets of R30 subdivisions and R-15 subdivi-
sions located cross the Golf Course Property to the
North. The conceptual plan is a first idea of what
could be on this property and in an attempt to propo-
sal with substantial devotion to employee housing at
the percentage of 70% employee housing and 30% free
market units. The development plan incorporates 40 to
45 free market units covermng the Elks Building relo-
cation site, City maintenance site and Opal Marolt's
house, and employee housing to the south. The appli-
cation originally requested SPA zoning, which is a
zoning plan that is intended to accommodate many fea-
tures of a site and a unique developmenb plan to the
extent that no development is permitted until a deve-
lopment plan is reviewed. The application was changed
later to apply for an R-6 zone density catagory and
the purpose of that was to accomodate the density that
was proposed. Looking at it in the traditional zoning
framework where the review criteria are such things as
surrounding land use patterns, surrounding zoning pat-
terns and any conditions that have changed since the
original zoning took place. The current zoning is a
AF-2 county, which is a 2 acre minimum lot size. We
have looked at the property from the standpoint of
what densities would result from the zoning requested
and infact if you do a straight calculation under R-6
Zoning, using the greater density standards, you would
need 4500 sq. ft. per unit and that could result in
a density of up to 254 units. According to which zone
is used will determine the density and the number of
units that can be proposed. Under the R-15 A Zone
catagory intended for those areas of the county which
are being annexed to the city and intended not to ac-
comodate increase in density by the fact that the city
and the county R-15 Zones are slightly different. We
have required the 50% of the units be deed restricted
to low, moderate and middle income housing in order to
acheive the higher density that the city zoning allows.
An analysis of that site plan we beleive the density
that is proposed might be better clustered and reduced
to acheive a density that is more appropriate for the
surrounding area. This property has been identified by
the Open Space Advisory Board and the pitkin county Parks
Association has a high priority for open space acquisi-
tion. Karen referred to the memo from Planning Office
under subsection 7, page 3, which identifies site as far
away as Smuggler Mt. and Vista Property and the conclu-
sion is the Marolt site is one of the best of all the
possible sites and location for employee housing.
In addition to the R-15 A we have recommended the pro-
perty be designated with a manditory planned unit dev-
elopment and perhaps an SPA Zone. The planned unit
development catagory is recommended for reasons that
it is the only catagory that allows this development
to pursue a townhouse or clustered configuration and
is specifically intended for sites which may have uni-
gue characteristics and allows opprotunity to cluster
the development in order to fit with the characteris-
tics of the site. The proposal of the Elk's building
being placed on the most obvious improper site and due
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to the fact this site is one of the most sacred areas
from the scenic entrances to Aspen would be denied.
Karen noted for record the memorandum from the Planning
Office prepared of the application which refers to the
maps and drawings as part of the development plan a
letter of the Board of County Commissioners generally
recommending this concept and the R-15 A Zoning cata-
gory with some additional detailed comments regarding
the development. Also, we received a telephone call
from the surrounding property owners being against the
proposal and a letter from Sidney and Delores Wineburg
stating their disapproval of the proposal. We beleive
that this property has some clear pros and cons to this
proposal and we have tried to weigh them very closely.
Hunt commented that any proposed transportation link
going through the property and the main street exten-
tion cause impact to the Castle Creek bridge and the
whole entrance to the city at this point and should
be noted.
Hedstrom opened the public hearing at this time.
Ron Stock made a public comment on behalf of the ad-
ministration and that is that they have on numerous
occassions strongly supported the Elk's Club reloca-
tion out to this site and have asked for letters to
be written to the Elk's supporting this site for their
property.
Jim Brested of the Open Space Advisory Board stated
they visited the property today and discussed the
concerns but did not have enough time to formulate
a recommendation on this property. The board felt
that in view that there are so many influences and
specific things that need to be addressed they could
not make a recommendation. We are tremendously dis-
turbed concerning this disruption of an open parcel
such as this and with the nuniller of parking spaces
needed and recreation areas needed cause us particu-
lar concern.
Ed Suzaki commented concerning the CSU 1974 Maps,
showing that ~ the land in question as being in an
area of high visual vulnerablity. The balance of
construction is in a moderate visual vulnerablity.
One other map shows most of the land catagorized as
"protected lands", as lands with extreme hazards or
fragile ecosystems exist. Some of the land is in non-
occupancy land, which catagory means best suited for
range, forestry and other uses not involving human
occupancy and the balance is in a catagory called
productive lands and best suited for agricultural
usage. None of this property lies in the catagory
called occupancy lands, which is lands suited for
longterm human occupancies. He felt strongly that
there is too much questions to density to allow this
property to approve this proposal.
Bob Joyce felt that the proposed development area is
being clustered on the banks of the east end and
would not be a visible problem and are interested in
obtaining a zoning to accommodate the housing needed
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for all concerned. The intentional design was with
approximately 60% of the property not being visible
form the road and clustering the development so to
follow this criteria.
Ed Suzaki felt the whole thrust of this development is
to obtain employee housing and there are better areas
for this purpose that would not increase traffic flow
that Gould be hazardous and it would not be adjacent
to green space and we should resist carrot of employee
housing and not jump on this development for that one
reason.
Jim Brested agreed and felt the property should remain
as open as possible. The city buys lots of open space
property and would like to see it remain edge of urba-
nization.
Hedstrom requested a special meeting November 29, 1979
also, a site inspection November 28, 1979 at 12:00 noon
at the site in question.
All in favor. Motions approved.
WHOP Rezoning
Sunny Vann of the Planning Office wanted to make some
points concerning the applicants request of anneXa-
tion and rezoning of their property across from the
Opal Marolt property, south of Hwy 82 on Castle Creek.
The property is currently zoned R-15 in the County and
a portion AF-l which is in the stream. The applicants
are requesting R-15 in the City. If all the land were
zoned R-15, then the allowable building square footage
would be approximately 3,000 sq.ft. and all require-
ments could be accomodated. The Planning Office use
annexations of this type, in which there is no community
benefit and the proposal is solely for economic bene-
fit of the applicants to increase building area. If
the City Council wishes to approve the annexation, the
Planning Office would recommend the P & Z Commission
do that and the zoning would be R-15A. The restric-
tion of half the units to low, moderate and middle
income, but couldn't build a duplex, if annexed. If
the property is annexed the applicant would be required
to go through the Stream Margin Review. Based on the
information submitted to the Planning Office to date,
causes us to be unable to determine the extent of the
Flood Plains.
Hedstrom opened the Public Hearing and there was no
comment and then he closed the Public Hearing. He
stated that annexation and zoning if annexed, and asked
what are the required actions of this commission in
respects to both of those steps?
Sunny Vann stated that the applicant is requesting re-
conwendation for zoning prior to approaching the City
Council to receive approval of annexation to the city
and rezoning of R-15 at the same time.
Hedstrom asked if the commission wished to make any
recommendations on the annexation to City Council?
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Regular Meeting
Lodge Preser-
vation Ordinance
Oliver Subdivision
Exemption
Patio Building
Subdivision
Exemption
Nancy McDonnell asked that there is not enough land to
build a duplex so they couldn't have a unit to deed
restrict to low, moderate so we are looking at a pri-
vate residence?
Lee Pardee moved to assign R-15A zone to WHOP lot should
it be annexed to the City of Aspen by the City Council.
Withdrawn.
Roger Hunt moved to recommend R-15A to WHOP lot as-
summing it is annexed to City by the City Council and
no recommendation concerning annexation and the rea-
son for R-15A zoning is the consistence with the sur-
rounding zoning and other annexations to the City when
there is no benefit to the City.
McDonnell seconded. All in favor. Motion approved.
Olof Hedstrom asked to be excused due to pressing
matters at 6:30 P.M. Welton Anderson as summed Vice
Chairman position and continued the meeting.
Karen Smith requested this item be skipped over and
republish at such time that the association comes up
with a firm recommendation.
Richard Grice of the Planning Office introduced the
application by Mike Oliver of request the exemption
from subdivision with the condominiumization of a new
duplex which is currently under construction and has
no rental history. Engineering Office has recommended
approval subject to three conditions; being the survey
plat is to be revised, the requirement of utility and
public extension pole easement for overhead utilities
and the easements for the underground utilities and
then requirement of the owner/applicant to agree to
enter into a curb, gutter and sidewalk improvement
district when formed for the area, as well as the six
month lease restrictions suggested by the City Attor-
ney.
Roger Hunt moved to table action on the Oliver Subdi-
vision Exemption until such time the questionable
statis is clarified.
Richard Grice introduced the application for condomi-
niumization of existing commercial building that is
currently used by commercial tenants and does contain
two units which originally were for residential pur-
poses and have not been occupied as such for the last
eighteen months for residential purposes. The Engi-
neering Office has recommended approval subject to
two conditions. First the dedication of utility ease-
ment and an application to City Council for a license
to encroach with the steps of the building and subject
to the creation of one off street parking space for
each bedroom in the residential units. The City Att-
orney has commented that Section 20-9, Subsection C,
of the Municipal Code prohibits the subdivision of any
use that contains nonconforming elements such as Nature
Storehouse, which is the only nonconforming unit.
Roger Hunt moved to recommend exemption of strict app-
lication of subdivision regulations for Patio Building
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condominiumization conditioned on conditions 1 through
4 included verbatum in this motion from the Engineering
Department memo dated 19 September, 1979, also condi-
tion #5, if the dwelling units are ever used as dwell-
ing units they will come under the PMH requirements for
either sell price or rental pricing and would be so
exempt from the requirement of parking spaces. Condi-
tion #6 primarily in compliance with Section 20-9C,
however it does include the nonconforming use of Nature
Storehouse which is recommended to have that use allow-
ed in perpetuity as a nonconforming use, however, if
that operation ever vacates the premises that the non-
conforming use allowance will be vacated immediately.
Otherwise, there are no adverse effects to the city of
community or no detriments to the public good.
Lee Pardee seconded. All in favor. Motion approved.
Kessler
Subdivision
Exemption
Richard Grice introduced the application by Mr. Kessler
requesting condominiumization of eight apartment units.
There are two buildings with four units in each build-
ing and the rental history shows 6 out of 8 units have
been rented within the low, moderate and middle income
guidelines within the last eighteen months. Two have
the units have not and show one unit being occupied by
the Kesslers and the other has been short termed. The
applicant has offered to deed restrict one unit for a
term of three years to insure mitigation of the impact
on the housing pool. That is one building. The Engi-
neering Department has recommended approval subject to
three conditions. The first being revisions in the
improvement survey, the second requires the applicant
to enter into a sidewalk improvement district and the
third requires off street parking situation to be de-
signed according to the code. The City Attorney has
recommended approval of the subdivision exemption, how-
ever, he feels that 6 of the units are currently within
the low, moderate and middle income housing pool and
suggest that history and applicants purposal to mitigate
the impacts we presented for review. The Housing Dir-
ector simply recommends that the rural restriction on
the four units, which is offered be extended to a five
year period. Our recommendation is that six out of the
eight units be deed restricted to the low, moderate and
middle income housing guidelines for a five year per-
iod and all units be deed restricted to six month mini-
nal lease provisions and notice optional requirements
as well as the Engineering Department recommendations.
Ashley Anderson stated there are two buildings in this
process and questions is there going to be displacment
of employees? There is also a question to the allow-
able parking spaces and there could be a trade off
with the city getting six employee units without the
required parking spaces per bedroom being a required
condition.
Roger Hunt moved to recommend exemption of strict app-
lication of subdivision regulations for the Kessler
property condominiumization conditioned under verbatum
from Engineering Department memo dated 8 November 1979,
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condition one and two of said memo. Condition three
being that the owner/applicant provide the Engineering
Department with a design of all off street parking
though it is realized the parking is not in conformance
with the parking code but there is adequate for the
site and there is no other suitable area for expansion
of the parking and is allowed only because of the uni-
queness of this site. Condition four being that con-
dition one be complied with prior to City Council con-
sideration and five being five units shall comply with
low, moderate guidelines for five years and six being
property comply with six month minimun lease require-
ments of the Aspen Municipal Code Section 20-22.
Otherwise, there are no adverse impacts on land use or
detriment to the public good.
Nancy McDonnell seconded. McDonnell, aye. Anderson,
aye. Hunt, aye. Pardee, nay. Motion approved.
Trails Master
Plan
Jolene Vrchota commented on the revised version of the
Trails Master Plan and the memorandum in the packet
points out specific changes that have been made and
the changes incorporating a method for citizen input
on page 48, in the selection of trails to be budgeted
by the County. The other major change would be the
table on pages 28 and 29, which was changed to be a
more descriptive tool that would be used by the staff
and by citizens in this type of community in order to
make budget recommendations.
R. Hunt moved to adopt the Aspen Area General Plan-
Aspen-Pitkin Trails Master Plan as an adoption to the
1966 Aspen Area General Plan: Further, the Master Plan
shall in no way eliminate the possibility of under-
taking an experimental moped program on the trails
system when:
1. approved by the agency having jurisdiction
(Board of commissioners of Pitkin County or
Aspen City Council), and
2. permission is granted by the donors of ease-
ments where private property is involved.
McDonnell seconded. All in favor. Motion carried.
Housing Overlay
Karen Smith reviewed the requests of the commissions
concern about the TDR's would incorporate a time limit
for there usage and assure that lodge units could not
be built or transferred until completed construction
and deed restriction of the employee units. Section
20-10.2A, the exceptance to expand the transferable
development rights to delete the phrase,dwelling units
and expand it to transfer of units. Further dicussion
concerning the changes lead to the decision of sepe-
rating the TDR's from the Housing Overlay Ordinance.
Pardee moved to request the Planning Office and City
Attorney seperate the TDR's and incorporate that into
the housing overlay without conflicting interest.
Roger Hunt seconded. All in favor. Motion approved.
Anderson moved to extend the Public Hearing of the
Housing Overlay District and the TDR's to 4:00 Thurs-
day, November 29, 1979.
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Roger Hunt seconded. All in favor. Motion approved.
Adoption of
Resolution 79-20
Anderson moved to adopt Resolution 79-20, whereas the
members of the commission are advised that Sheryl
Simmen will be leaving the employment of the City of
Aspen and no longer will be acting as secretary to the
commission and whereas the members of the commission
wish to acknowledge that Sheryl Simmen has provided
outstanding cooperation and assistance to the members
of the commission during her employment to the City.
Whereas the commission wishes to commend Sheryl Simmen
and do so as a matter of record now, therefore let it
be resolved that the Aspen Planning and Zoning Commis-
sion does hereby commend Sheryl Simmen for her generous
cooperation and outstanding services to the City of
Aspen and during her tenure as the secretary to the
Planning and Zoning Commission and let it be further
resolved that this accomendation be incorporated into
the minutes of this proceeding and thereby made a
public record on this 20th day of November, 1979.
Hunt seconded. All in favor. Motion approved.
Anderson moved to adjourn. Hunt seconded. All in favor.
Motion approved.
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Sandi Meredith, Deputy City Clerk