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FORM ~ C. F. HO~CKEL 8. B. !II L. CO.
REGULAR MEETING
ASPEN PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
May 5, 1981
010f Hedstran, Chairman, called the meeting to order with members Anderson, Harvey, Hunt,
Klar, Pardee and Blomquist present.
Commissioners'
Corrments
The Corrmissioners' Corrments were postponed to the end of
the meeting for discussion when Sunny Vann and Paul Taddune
could be present at the request of Roger Hunt.
Perry Harvey requested that a Special Meeting be set up
to discuss City condominium policies and regulations.
Welton Anderson brought up the HPC t S moratorium and excess
amount of demolition permits which have been issued since
the moratorium was not in effect yet. Lee Pardee said
that the demolition permits were issued due to the fact
that the moratorium was not in effect yet. The permits
apparently were issued in error, but there was doubt that
these demolition permits could be revoked. One of the
victorians is already partially demolished (the Koval
application house).
Al Blomquist pointed out that the Municipal Code needs
to be clarified. He went on to suggest a fOrm3.t which
could be a consideration in amending the Code for better
clarity. He pointed out that the table under FAR is
misleading, in the Code and that he believes it is merely
a draftsmanship problem. 010f suggested that the Corrmission
follow up on Al's suggestion that the Code be worked on.
Alan Richman said that this was one of the many projects
which the Planning Office had put a high priority on.
OW BUSINESS
Parry Subdivision
Exception (condo-
miniumization)
Roger Hunt said that those who had participated in the
site inspection had no problems with it and suggested
that a motion be presented. Roger moved to recorrmend
approval of subdivision exception for the purposes of
condominiumization conditioned on the following:
1. The applicant revising the condominium plat prior to
review of this application by City Council to correct the
errors identified by the Engineering Deparbnent in their
memo of Mary 10, 1981;
2. The applicant agreeing that the units shall be restricted
to six month m.in:imum leases with no 1IDre than two shorter
tenancies per year;
3. That the applicant apply for the appropriate permits
for the furnace and wiring found in the garage prior to
review of this application by City Council and permitting
the necessary Building Deparbnent inspections of these
facilities;
4. The applicant eliminate the illegal kitchen facilities
in the south unit and replace them with the appropriate washer
and dryer and eliminating one of the two kitchens located
in the north unit prior to review of this application by City
Council; and ",
5. The applicant agree not to lock off the bedrooms in the
north unit, instead utilizing them las a single two-bedroom
condominium unit while also not creating a second residence in
the south unit.
Perry Harvey seconded the motion. Motion carried.
Perry Harvey stated that should an applicant illegally
rent or rent outside of the guidelines set for rentals,
and then corne before the Commission for approval at a
later date, all of the :infonnation should be considered
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Smuggler Mobile
Home Park - Conceptual
Sul::rnission
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prior to approval by the Commission.
Parry Harvey informed the Corrmission that he was
stepping down because of a conflict of interest.
Alan Richman suggested that no action be taken at this
time because 1) the applicant has revised his sul:rnission
and the referral agencies had not been aple to review
them yet and 2) there are sorne deficiencies as to available
infonnation. This application is requesting conceptual
approval of the subdivision of the Smuggler Mobile Home
Park into five distinct parcels and the addition of
mobile homes to the Park. Rick Ferral mentioned that this
sul:rnission would probably change throughout the approval
process up until Final Plat. Alan suggested that this
item be tabled for a Special Meeting if the concerns of
the Commission are voluminous or table it to a regular
meeting if it could be delt with quickly.
In regard to the background of the case, Alan said that
the Park was purchased by the Aspen Mountain Park Partner-
ship for the purposes of redve1opment, they issued a
notice to the tenants of the Park stating that rents on
the mobile homes were to rise substantially. Proceedings
were initiated against AMP in order to resolve the issue
and negotiations were cOIIJl\enced. A settlement agreement was
reached between the City, AMP and the trailer park Homeowners
Association. In the settlement, AMP agreed to make certain
improvements, they agreed to sell units under deed restricted
employee housing. Guidelines were not set on those units.
The Park was to be permitted to expand by 26 additional units
which were to be deed restricted, and, in exchange, AMP
was to receive the right to develop somewhere in the City
or outside the City if it was to annexed to the City, another
19 free market units. The mechanism by which the 19 units
would be obtained would be 26 deed restricted units on
a 70:30 Residential Bonus Overlay (this would provide 10 or
11 of the deed restricted units) and a provision called the
90:10 in which the existing 87 or 88 trailers would be deed
restricted and for every 9 deed restricted trailers they
would get one (1) free market unit. This would be a Code
amendment which needs to come before the Commission at the
Preliminary Plat stage. Alternatives could also be presented
or developed by any of the parties affected. This is the
Conceptual Subdivision of the Smuggler Mobile Home Park
into five distinct parcels, the addition of 26 new nobile
homes on Parcel C. Alan then referred to Figure 1 (attached
hereto and incorporated by this reference).
Alan pointed out that with regard to the review corrments,
the two main concerns. One of these concerns being the
problems with circulation in the area. The County is
interested in developing a loop road which would connect
via Spruce Street over to the Mill Street area which Alan
said is a JIlUch better circulation route into town as well
as connecting through Park Circle over towards Highway 82.
Alan stated that the concern of the Planning Office, as
they represent both City and County interests here, is
not to preclude any option that the County might be developing
in terms of the overall Smugg1er/Silverking area. The interests
of the Smuggler Trailer Park is in preserving the employee
housing units in the City. Similarly, the possibilities
in the Smuggler/Silverking area are very significant options
for Aspen and the Planning Office would like to see further
negotiations between the City and the County and the developer.
Alan pointed out on the plats some of the possibilities
of development which were being negotiated between the
County and the developer. Rick Ferral mentioned that he
had met with the County and that the County was very anxious
to consumate some type of land trade. They are in the middle
of negotiations, and until they resolve the right-of-way
versus trade, they want to trade for sorne more developable
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land behind Smuggler. If this did occur, they would amend
their Conceptual Sul:rnission. Rick suggested that even though
the circumstances may change within a week or so, he felt
it was worth the time to continue to discuss the issue as it
stands at this time. Lee Pardee said that he felt the need
to find out where the County negotiations stand at this point
and that they shou1dn It preclude it or make any final plans
without knowing this. 010f Hedstrom agreed with this suggestion
and Roger Hunt also suggested that any problems he sees would
definitely be affected by any changes caused by c~lete nego-
tiations with the County. Roger stated that he felt there
was a definite safety problem in the area in regards to cir-
culation, especially in the case of a mass evacuation. Al
Blomquist expressed the desire to see a set of blueprints in
50 scale of the sul:rnission. Al said he wanted to see the fire
hazards, bus systems, circulation problems and other items
first before the detail of the su1:mission was discussed.
Joan Klar wants to know what the whole area will look like
in terms of what Kuhne is doing and the Smgg1er also so they
can really understand what the impacts in terms of density,
etc. are going to be. Joan suggested a site inspection with
Alan and Rick accompanying. Welton Anderson stated he was
confused and that it was hard to see the problems, there were
no maps included with the packet. Alan said the applicant
was unable to reduce the maps for the packet in a legible form.
Lee Pardee suggested that the County Engineer be present at
the site inspection. He also wanted Pat Dobie to be there.
Alan said Jim Hamilton should also go to the site inspection
with them. Sunny Vann said the questions raised in regard
to overall access, bus connections, service levels, additional
density as a result of the Kuhne settlement and so forth
are going to be addressed in a Master Plan of the entire area
by the County. They are not going to be available in the time
frame that the Canmittee wishes to look at them. These are
the results of negotiations between the City and the County
adn that what the Planning Office is doing is attempting to
bring that agreement to fruition in a timely manner based on
some guidelines and dates that are set in that agreement to
facilitate the sale of the units to the occupants as well as
address same of these problems. Olof said that the Corrmission
wants the Planning Office to be aware that they want the infOrm3.-
tion to the extent that it is available.
Alan Richman pointed out that the second area of concern were
corrments from ithe Engineer and the Building Department. These
led the Planning Office to believe that the present nobile home
park code is deficient in their abilities to review the applica-
tion. The type of arrangement that they have proposed here,
and this is something that he suggested the Corrmission think
about, are duplex trailers which are not addressed in the Code
in any form. The only way the applicant can meet the agreement
terms and to provide the kinds of improvements that are laid
out in the agreement, they need to have a duplex trailer
arrangement. We would process a Code amendment if that was
the desired end. Lee Pardee said he was concerned with the
fire marshall's problems, fire walls, electrical problems.
Ted Guy explained that all of these units will be of custom
designed manufactured unit. 'They will meet both the UBC and
the Federal standards for mobile homes. Alan said if a Code
amendment was processed, they would use a national and state
standard and that he didn't think there would be any problems.
Roger wanted to know how the arrangement was made in regard
to the 70: 30 cast and stone, free market to employee units.
Bob Hughes explained the settlement agreement to Roger.
Al Blomquist wanted to know how many square feet per lot
area. Bob Hughes said 2600 sq. ft. Ted Guy confirmed that
:figure, 2600 to 2800 sq. ft. Ted Guy explained how the spacing
~s to be changed.
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They talked about building standards and set backs for the
mobile home park. Roger suggested that an Ordinance be
created for the park instead of amending the Code.
Alan Richman said another area of concern which did not need
extensive discussion were utilitiy improvements, drainage
and sewer, electrical, because they would all be brought up
to Code standards and the applicant has agreed to all those
items. Right-of-way, road maintenance are all agreed to
by the applicant also. .
Ai Blomquist s~.at~::.that:h<e.t!1ought= t~w~.#Ie C;:Olil?1:. Order
on the Smuggler Trailer Park from a previous owner of the Park
that ordered a general landscaping, paving and spread the
trailers out a bit. He stated that it was never done and
he wants to know the status of that Court Order. He said
he thought that the extra land up at the Trailer Park was
to be used to disburse the mobile homes further. He was
questioning whether this would transfer with the transfer
of the land. Bob Hughes said he believed the Order was =at.
Brooke Peterson said that for all intents and purposes Jesse
had complied with the Court Order. The expansion which Jesse
was applying for at that time, was approved.
Bob Hughes mentioned that the rental and resale price restrictions
had not been settled yet. He stated that the City will be
responsible for imposing the guidelines. It is not the Obligation
of the Applicant. The City is working this out with the Homeowners
Association. Lee Pardee stated that he wants to see the mnnbers.
Jim Reents explained how the figures are calculated. He said
this is something which is being negotiated by the Housing Office
at this time.
Ted Guy explained with regard to the topography of the property
that there would be a balanced cut and fill on Parcel CIS develop-
ment.
Ted Guy make a presentation on the bluelines and explained to
the Commission what the plans were to be. He explained where
each of the parcels would be located.
Roger brought up the point of access to the Park being a major
contingency upon approval.
Lee Pardee suggested a Special Meeting preceeded by a site in-
spection with Pat Dobie and Jim Hamilton present. He also
suggested that price guidelines were available at that meeting.
He also wanted a better map to look at.
Welton Anderson questioned the changing of the parcels.
Rick Ferrel said subdivision into the parcels was to primarily
accolJlJIOdate the different financings and to set up the different
homeowners associations.
Olof suggested a Special Meeting for the presentation of the
materials which the Commission desired to have presented to them.
Olof noved to table the Smggler Mobile Home Park Conceptual
Sul::rnission to a Special Meeting Tuesday, May 12, 1981 at 5: 00
beginning at the Smuggler Trailer Park with a site inspection.
Lee Pardee seconded the motion.
Jim Brested represented an ad hoc committee consisting of Dale
Potvin, Chuck Maple, Mike Garish, Stan Arisky and Jim Brested.
This committee is in favor of the condorniniumization of the
trailer park and they feel that it is a great improvement to
the area. Most of these people are landowners in the area.
They favor instead of additional trailers, permanent housing
structures. They ask that this be considered since they feel
that permanent housing structures would increase the economic
base in the area. They are also concerned with circulation
and are pleased to hear that these concerns are being considered.
He said the drainage is terrible in the area. Street lighting
is abominable adn with a lot of foot traffic to Silverking,
there is a great need for nore light for the safety of these
pecp1e. He said the Mill Street is a very dangerous bottleneck
in which many accidents occur. These things need to be addressed
before the density is increased.
Doug Calliso1e, a trailer owner in SJIlUggler and also serves on
the Board of Directors. A number of Smuggler trailer owners were
asked to come to the meeting in order to show their support for
the plan. They are anxious to expediate the process. Doug
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Trueman -
Use
Determination
for Travel
Agency at
North Mill
Station
1015 East
Hyman Avenue-
GMP Exemption
for ~loyee
Units -
Subdivisions
Exception
was there to represent the Board officially.
Charles Staple was a third party asking for expedience in
upgrading the circulation in the area.
Alan Richman was presented this item for Colette Penne.
Alan explained how the zoning is at this time. He stated
that the intention of the NC zone is for convenience establishments
compatible with the neighborhood. The basic one-stop shopping
type of a zone. The travel agency would be located on the
first floor. The permitted uses are business and professional
offices. This would be the key to conditional use determination.
Colette Penne told Alan that she felt this would be a compatible
use in the complex with the other types of shops in the Mall.
She also did not think it would generate a great deal of traffic.
The Planning Office did recommend approval since they felt that
this business fit into the description of a professional office.
010f felt that there could be other more acceptable types of shops
in the Building, such as a barbar shop. Sunny Vann explained that
the Planning Office was merely stating that the shop was consistent
with the Code as adopted. Al Blomquist felt that a travel agent
belongs in the tourist zone. Sunny explained that it was not
necessarily a tourist use. It was for local service. Perry
Harvey disagreed with Al. He stated that the Trueman center
was for businesses which did not attract tourists. It was designed
for the local neighborhood and it was approved for that purpose.
He felt the travel agency was a local oriented business, most
tourists do not come to Aspen on a one-way ticket. He felt it
to be a perfectly adequate use. Roger did not believe that
the travel agency was a locals type business. It was determined that
a travel agency is a conditioned use in the NC zone. Ie vc,i"
carried the notion.
Alan Richman explained that this application is a proj ect located
in the R-MF zone on a 9,000 sq. ft. lot on Hyman between Cleveland
and the Roaring Fork River. It is one which received an allocation
for development in the 1981 Residential GMP competition. It is
presently two 2-bedroom units. The application proposes to add
3 units to the site, 2 being employee units and one free market unit.
The Applicant is requesting exemption of the two employee units from
GMP as provided in Section 24-ll(2)(h) of the Code, and also
requesting an exception from full subdivision procedures. Alan
said that the Planning Office recommends approval of this application
subdivion to the conditions as follows:
1. That applicant's recordation of deed restrictions limiting the
studio and two-bedroom employee units to low income housing price guide-
lines, as adjusted by annual price increments by City Council.
2. The applicant not exceed the Code requirement that curb cuts in the
R-MF zone be limited to a width of 18 feet.
3. The applicant agree to provide a dry well for drainage.
4. The applicant agreeing to install the energy conservation measures
outlined in the original GMP application and minimizing the total
number of fireplaces employee at the project.
5. The applicant agree to a cash payment or land dedication to meet
park dedication requirements for the free market unit. The precise
arrangement for these fees will be computed by the Building Inspector
at such time that a building permit for the project is requested.
Jeff sachs represented Irving Getz (a neighboring property owner).
Jeff wanted to verify that the existing unit on site had two 2-
bedroom units. Jeff's client did not believe this was correct and Jeff
wanted a physical inspection of the property before approval. Gideon
Kaufman (representative of the Applicant) explained that they had al-
ready met with" the Building Inspector. They had submitted a letter to
the Building Inspector that verified that there were two 2-bedroom units
located on the existing site.
Epicurean-
Subdivision
Exception
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Gideon explained that the letter verifying all of this was on
file at the Building Inspector's Office.
Gideon stated that he wanted condition 2 to be stated as the
Code says, a width of 18ft. or two 10 ft. cuts. It was agreed
that Condition 2 would be amended as such since that is the
way the Code reads. Gideon explained that in regard to Condition
4, they will not be providing hot water collectors for the employee
units. He said that in order to meet the needs of low income
housing price guidelines that some items were not logical economically.
Olof Hedstrom questioned the wording of minimizing the total number of
fireplaces. Gideon proposed the condition to rea as follows:
"Allowing energy efficient stoves in the employee units provided they
meet with the approval of the Environmental Health Department.
Roger Hunt moved to recorrmend exception for the purpose of subdivision
of the 1015 East Hyman Avenue Application and exemption of employee
units from the GMP subject to the conditions of the recorrnnended
conditions in the Planning Office memo of April 24, 1981 with the
following modifications: Condition 2 - add the words "or two 10 foot
cuts" and Condition 4 to "State that the Applicant agrees to install
the energy conservation measures outlined in the original GMP applica-
tion in the free market units and providing energy efficient stoves in
the employee units if it meets with the approval of the Environmental
Health Deparbnent." Perry Harvey seconded the motion. The motion
was carried.
Jack Johnson presented this item stating that the Application
was requesting subdivision exception for purposes of condomiumization
of the Epicure Plaza Building into 21 spaces. The Applicant was
granted a 1979 Corrmercia1 GMP allotment for 1,041 sq. ft. by City
Coun:::il on November 26, 1979. He explained that the allotment will
expire on 9/1/81 if the owner does not submit plans sufficient for
a building permit by that date. The applicant is also requesting a
waiver of full subdivision procedures.
Jack said the Applicant has sorre concerns with the Engineering cornnents
and he recamended that they be oarplied with in the final recornnenda-
tions. He said the Epicure Building will be a total of 1200 sq. ft.
I041 sq. ft. will be carmercial office space subdivided into 21 spaces
Three will be errployee housing on the upper level which covers the
remainder of the 1200 sq. ft. Two issues are applicable to the
errployee housing portion of the project. That is the six rronth
minimum lease restrictions and the price guidelines for middle incare
level which was approved in the GMP application. The Planning Office
recamended approval of condominiumization for the Epicure Plaza
Building subject to carpliance with Engineering Depart:rrent cornnents,
deed restriction of the three errployee housing units to the middle
incare level and restriction to the six rronth minimum lease requirerrents,
Lee Pardee asked if this application was the same as the original
application in regard to ntlllber of units. Jack said that it was.
Jeff Sachs, attorney for the applicant eJq)lained that there were no
changes in the structure with regard to square fcotage alloted.
010f also questioned whether there were any changes that would mean
a difference from the original <W application. Jack said nothing
was changed, it was merely an application with regard to =nership.
He went on to eJq)lain that the allotIrent was for 1,041 sq. ft. of space.
No consideration was made as to the internal subdivision of that space
into private =nership, camon =nership or whatever, it was only the
physical attribution of the building. The aIOClunt of square footage
considered at the tine and certain conditions with no consideration
at all were given to future ownership of the internal space. Olof
stated that he was satisfied. Roger pointed out a change in the
plat between the GMP submission and this one. and hav it related to
service entJ:y. Jeff Sachs shaved him that there were still service
entries to all of the retail spaces. Lee Pardee rec:amended approval
of the applicant's request for subdivision exception for purposes of
condcxniniumizing the Epicure Plaza Building subject to the three
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Ccmrents
conditions listed in the Planning Office's rraro of May 5, 1981,
on the sane subject. Welton Anderson seconded the notion.
Perry Harvey questioned whether Item No. 2 of the rraro would be
controlled properly, the middle inoare rental and sale of the
units. Jeff Sachs explained that it was properly controlled.
Lee pardee rroved to amend the notion to drop the word rental,
and leave it to say middle inCCl"lYa price guidelines which incorporates
both rental and sales.
Welton Anderson seconded the anended notion. M::>ticon was carried.
010f asked the corrrnission for anz CCIlIrents. Lee Pardee brought
up the subject of copies of the Municipal Code for the Ccmnission.
Sunny Vann explained that they had been ordered and that Kat!u:yn
Koch was in charge of obtaining them.
Lee Pardee also questioned the status of the Planning Office work
program. Sunny Vann explained hew the work program was being developed
and the hardships which the Planning Office was experiencin:;} in regard
to rreeting the original work program goals.. Lack of funds was a
major contribution which rreant one position in the Office would be
left open. A great deal of work would be put irito the nest important
issues. Briefly, the ill priority of the Planning Office is a najor
overhaul of the GMP Plan. #2, an overhaul of the Land Use Code
procedural process along with code amendrrents to streamline and make
the code nore efficient. #3, i.mrediate code amendment work, mainly
wi th regard to the GMP. Particular errphasis being place on rreeting
the Septe!lber 1 deadline for Camercia1 GMP submissions. The planning
Office wants to have the guidelines set out nonths in advance .of that
dealine. There are also a number of specific code amendments which
Council has requested. Joan Klar said she wanted to help the Planning
Office with volunteer work.
Welton Anderson brought up the problem with derrolition to victorians
and the numerous derroli tion penni ts which had been issued prior to
the noratorium. Paul Taddune pointed out that by passing legislation
to avoid derrolition for things of this kind, many tirres it increased
the problems. It was noted that this is an inportant issue and that
it was being worked on by the City Attorney and others to see if
anzthing could be done to stop the excessive amJunt of pennits being
rEquested and issued.
Roger Hunt expressed concern over some =ent legislation being
worked upon by the Federal GoveJ:nmant. It was the question of agencies
cx::mnissions, comnissioners and the agents of public entities like the
City of Aspen, being held personally liable for their decisions on
Boards of this sort. Paul Taddune explained that conducting your
legislative activity in good faith, would avoid the type of problem
that is bieng addressed here. voting in good faith, rather than
voting in bad faith would be subjecting yourself to personal liability.
Roger stated that if he felt he was subject to personal liability
he would probably want to step da.m from any decisions. Paul explained
that no one should be fearful in the perfo:rmance of his duties. If
you vote you conscience, in good faith and do what you think is right
you would not be personally liable for your actions.
Lee pardee noved to adjourn. A1 Blorrquist second the notion. Motion
carried.
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net L. Weinstein
. Admin~strative Secretary
Plannlng Office