HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19820105
FORM" C. F. ~OECKEl 8. B. 6: l. CO.
RECORD OF. PROCEEDINGS
100 Leaves
Regular Meeting
Planning and Zoning
January 5, 1982
Chairman Olof Hedstrom called the meeting to order with members Anderson,
Hunt, Tygre, Pardee, Blomquist, and Fallin present.
Commissioner
Comments
Snow Queen
Conditional
Use & GMP
Exemption
Employee
Units
Hunt brought up the snow removal program, which is not the
fault of the streets department, but is caused by the parking
problem. Hunt recommended the city look into no parking on
one side of the street one night, etc. Pardee said this is a
good recommendation but not in the purview of P & Z.
Hunt brought up the police department parking all along the
south side of Hopkins. This should be tourist parking and the
signs should be moved back to the north side of the street.
Blomquist said he is concerred about the lack of information for
the $4,000,000 bond issue for capital improvements and open
space. Blomquist said the P & Z should have a capital improve-
budget, which they don't. Blomquist suggested the staff prepare
a capital improvement proposal for consideration by P & Z.
Pardee said this would be assuming an additional work load of
capital budgetting.
Welton Anderson stepped down. Colette Penne, planning office,
introduced into the record the plans and memoranda. Ms. Penne
said P & Z looked at this sometime ago, and this is a changed
application. The Snow Queen is located at 124 E. Cooper in the
RMF zone, on a 4500 square foot lot. The request is to expand
the existing 250 square foot employee unit by combining it with
an existing room for a total of 420 square feet, and reconstruc-
tion of a new rental unit. Ms. Penne said this requires a
conditional use approval and GMP exemption for the employee unit.
The proposed additional will not increase the non-conformity of
the lodge. One lodge unit is being subtracted from the present
number of units for employee housing. This is allowed in the
code. The planning office recommends approval for the construc-
tion of the employee unit and replacement of that same square
footage for another lodge unit. The planning office recommends
GMP exemption for the employee unit with the conditions listed.
Hedstrom opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Hedstrom closed the public hearing.
Hunt said what this does is instead of two employee units, this
is one-expended employee unit. Ms. Penne said that is true.
Pardee said this does not seem to be the intent of Ordinance 26,
1981. Ms. Penne said this is a liberal interpretation of the
Code, but the planning office did not want to lose the employee
unit. Ms. Penne said the 420 square feet will house more
employees than the 250 square foot unit.
Blomquist favored the liberal interpretation. This is reducing
a non-conformity and an illegality in terms of room size.
This seems to be within the intent of not allowing major
expansion and improving the employee room. Hedstrom said he is
in favor of the liberal interpretation but the Commission should
not lose sight of setting a precedent which might lead to
undesirable results in another case. Hunt agreed in this case;
Ms. Tygre agreed in this case. Pardee said he was afraid of
opening pandora's box.
Regular Meeting
Subdivision
Exception
Winter Haven
Resolution
Highway 82
and
Cemetery
Lane
Planning and Zoning
January 5, 1982
Blomquist said the FAR in this zone is 1:1, and this building is
only 1500 square feet on a 4500 square foot lot. Ms. penne said
the 250 square foot room is not legal as an employee unit, but
it is legal as a free market rental room. The applicant is
willing to combine two units for an employee unit of 420 square
feet, and they can then add 420 square feet as rental space.
City Attorney Taddune said he does not have a problem with this
as it is creating an employee unit, which is something the
community wants. Hedstrom said the justifications should be
stated in the motion to approve to prevent other situations
that do not meet these favorable circumstances.
Pardee moved to recommend approval of GMP exemption and the
conditional use approval for construction of 420 square foot
employee unit at Snow Queen lodge by combining an existing lodge
room with an existing employee unit of inadequate sixe and
replacement of that same square footage in the form of a new
lodge rental room; approve GMP exemption for tne newly formed
employee unit with the following conditions, numbers 1 through
4 in the planning office memorandum of December 30, 1981; P & Z
makes this approval with the reservation that there by no intent
to circumvent Ordinance 26, 1981, and that there be no reliance
or precedent set if the city attorney finds these actions against
Ordinance #26, 1981, and that unit be restricted to low income
rental/sale guidelines; seconded by Hunt. All in favor, motion
carried.
Alice Davis, planning office, said this request is to condominium-
ize a triplex at 525 S. West End street. This is zoned RMF and
is on a 6,000 square foot lot. The engineering department
recommended six additions to the plat, which are minor details.
Ms. Davis told P & Z this parcel received subdivision exception
in 1977 for a triplex. The triplex has been removed and
reconstructed so this requires re-approval. Ms. Davis said at
first consideration, employee guidelines were not adopted.
Ms. Davis said one unit has been owner/occupied and will continue
to be so. Ms. Davis said the other two units do not fall under
the employee guidelines. The planning office recommends
approval with the applicant agreeing to Section 20-22 and the
engineering conditions for the plat. Hunt asked who has been
living in these units. Ms. Davis said they have been under
construction. Hunt asked if these units were short termed or
have been occupied by employees. Mike Fitzgerald said since
completion they have been rented on a month to month basis.
Fitzgerald said the new units are 1825 square feet, larger than
the original 750 square feet units.
Ms. Tygre said the entire usage of the building has changed.
Hedstrom pointed out this concern does not affect this applica-
tion, but the P & Z is concerned about what is happening under
the employee guidelines. Pardee said this is twice the size of
the new FAR standards that were just passed.
Hunt moved to recommend approval of this request for subdivision
exception for the purpose of condominiumization of the Winter
Haven condominiums conditioned on l(a) (b) and 2 of the planning
office memorandum of December 29, 1981; seconded by Ms. Fallin.
All in favor, motion carried.
Hunt said he would like some minimum modifications to the
resolution. Hunt added "and equipment" being parked long term.
Hunt said he would like added "it does hereby recommend that the
City vacate the parking lot ~ and return to open space the
corner of Cemetery Lane and Highway 82". Blomquist said he
would like added "and fully landscape to the extent cars cannot
use this".
""
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
100 Leaves
FORM ~O c. r. HOECl{H 8. 6. I:l l. ca.
January 5, 1982
Regular Meeting
planning and Zoning commission
-3-
Bed and
Breakfast
Discussion
Francis Whitaker said he strongly recommends this action and
emphasize confidence that the city will keep open space, open
space. Ms. penne said she has the amendments to the resolution
and will have it redone.
Hunt moved to
the corner of
by Ms. Tygre.
adopt Resolution 82-1 regarding
Cemetery Lane and Highway 82 as
All in favor, motion carried.
city property at
amended; seconded
Blomquist told the Board the lodging association met and sent a
letter of endorsement for a bed and breakfast use at 135 E.
Cooper but stipulated it be approved as part of a class rather
than an individual case.
Colette Penne, planning office, said this has been referred to
P & Z by Council, who unanimously endorsed the idea of bed and
breakfast. At this point, this is not a specific application.
The planning office will not put through a rezoning until there
is a valid application. This is a discussion on bed and break-
fast idea. This house has been the subject of much controversy,
and the community want to save the house on this site. Ms. Penne
said she would like the feelings from the Board about this site
and this house. Ms. Penne said the city needs to develop
incentives to save historic buildings.
Ms. Penne said this is zoned RMF. Pardee said this should be
discussed but no action taken; there is no application at this
time. Blomquist said the issue is to deal with lodging as a
class. These type of lodges should be treated as a class within
the zone. Pardee said this could be historically designated
structures within a zone.
steve Peer, president of the lodging association, said they feel
it is a noble effort to preserve Victorian structures within this
community. The lodging association does not condone special
treatment within the RMF zone as there are lodges in that zone
that have been contributing to the bed and breakfast for years
and they are non-conforming. Peer said it is not fair to
continue the non-conformity. Peer listed some of the non-
conforming lodges in the RMF that have been there for years and
are well run. Peer said these lodges do not deserve this type
of stigma. Peer said the lodging association feels these types
of lodges need to be treated as a class and all the same.
Peer recommended, from the lodging association, lodges be an
allowed use in the RMF zone. A second recommendation is to make
existing lodges an allowed use and new lodges a conditional use.
Bil Dunaway said it is wise for the city to protect historic
structures. Dunaway suggested rather than just applying this
to historic structures, the lodges should come in as a separate
category, not historic. Ms. Penne said a resolution of the
problems of these lodges should come into the comprehensive
planning process this year. Ms. Penne said she felt the planning
office, P & Z and Council are willing to consider some amendment
for these type of lodges. Hunt suggested considering as a
conditional use in the RMF zone, historic structures as not to
be condominiumized boarding houses.
Ms. Tygre pointed out in this particular instance if the city
allows a bed and breakfast place, they are creating a new lodge.
Regular Meeting
Planning and Zoninq Commission
January 5, 1982
Ms. Tygre said this has to be looked at in the context of the
GMP, how many more rooms will be added to the lodging count.
Blomquist said after the lodge preservation clause was passed,
the P & Z said they would do something about the non-conforming
lodges. Blomquist said there is an obligation on the P & Z to
produce reasonable treatment on this segment of the lodging
industry.
Hedstrom said he did not think lodges should be permitted in the
RMF zone but rather people should come in for rezoning applica-
tions. If people want lodges, they should go through the
growth management competition. It is a mistake to make more
exceptions and exemptions to the GMP. Blomquist said the lodging
industry has lost ground over the last few years. Blomquist
said this Commission should initiate formal action about the
lodging problem.
Hedstrom asked the Commission if they want to look at proposals
from the staff for the improvement of the lodging industry.
Ms. Fallin said she would like input also from the lodging
groups themselves. If they feel they have serious problems, the
P & Z should hear about it. Pardee said the Commission should
see how this fits into the planning work program and their
priorities. Pardee said this is not something the P & Z should
sponsor unless they know how it fits with the planning office
time. If the lodging community comes with proposals, it may
make this easier on the staff and the P & Z. Ms. Tygre agreed
and pointed out the lodging industry can appreciate the problems
this has created for them.
Anderson agreed with Pardee and Tygre but said the P & Z has got
to do something. Steve Peer said it is the intention of the
lodging industry to generate as much material as possible to
illustrate they are facing problem. Hedstrom said he would like
to address this as part of the planning office work program.
Anderson moved to adjourn at 6:45 p.m. seconded by Pardee. All
in favor, motion carried.
Clerk
""