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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19820420 RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves FORM't C. F. HOEC~EL B. o. It L. Cl. PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION April 20, 1982 Regular Meeting The Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission met for a regular meeting on April 20, 1982 at 5:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers. Olof Hedstrom called the meeting to order with members Perry Harvey, Jasmine Tygre, Al Blomquist, Lee Pardee and Pat Falin. COM}lISSIONER'S COM}!ENTS the Planning and Zoning Al Blomquist so moves. - Alan Richman, of the meetings be changed to Perry Harvey seconds. Planning Office, asked that the dates of June 8 and June 22. All in favor. Motion carried. MINUTES - Lee Pardee said that on the first page on the 4th line, it should read "that too many of the projects that received GMP allocations two years later when they finally build ..." Pardee said that two lines below that should read to submit the building plans instead of be. Pardee said to take out "have to be submitted". Perry Harvey mentioned that the correct motion on the performance bond issue should be added to the minutes. Harvey moves to approve the minutes as amended for March 16, 1982. Jasmine Tygre seconds. All in favor. Motion carried. NEW BUSINESS A. Pitkin County Jail Facility - Subdivision Exception and Public Hearing - Adoptiori of Specially Planned Area (SPA) Plan and Rezoning from SPA to Public. Colette Penne, of the Planning Office, requests that this issue be tabled until the Planning and Zoning's May 4th meeting. Penne said that the County will come in with a completely new application and site plan to review the subdivision exceptions and re- zoning and the SPA at the same time. Perry Harvey moves to table the City County Jail structure Conceptual Subdivision and SPA to the P&Z's next regular meeting, which is May 4, 1982. Jasmine Tygre seconds. All in favor. Motion carried. B. Public Hearing - Proposed Code Amendments to Section 24-11.6, Lodge GMP Procedures. Olof Hedstrom opens the Public Hearing. Alan Richman enters his memorandum into the Public Hearing record and the attachments to that memorandum. Richman said that the Lodging quality is going to be as much of a consideration of Growth Management as is quantity. 1. Public Facilities and Services Perry Harvey said that it seems to him that in Public Facilities and Services that if sidewalks are being added that perhaps the P&Z should be looking at the advisebility of parking. Alan Richman believes that this is in the design section and that it shou: be emphasized. Lee Pardee feels that P&Z should require a lodge district to improve the district. 2. Proximity to Support Services Al Blomquist said that certain areas are zoned for certain reasons so then the points should be compared for best possible design. Alan Richman said that the design sectiol has been a model for some of the changes to the commercial and some changes that are being proposed right now to develope commercial system with the County. 3. Quality of Design No changes are proposed for this category. 4. Services Provided for Guests Al Blomquist said that if the Planning Office gives points for a restaurant and the Lodge is too small to really carry one, then it has to be a commercial restaurant that serves the neighborhood. Perry Harvey said that the point of this is that it gives points to larger projects and the concerns that P&Z have, which is why Harvey was askil about in the lodge zone, what is the potential build out on site by site basis. 5. Conformance to Local Public Policy Goals Alan Richman said that this section has been proposed to receive major technical changes. Perry Harvey asked if he was right in assuming that in the lodge zone you have a FAR that is a square footage, it is not number of units, then you could as many units in there ... Sunny Vann said that you have an external FAR which relates to the maximum size of the building, the internal FAR which establishes a maximum realm area. Perry Harvey said that many times these old lodges would like to be able to recreate the units in a larger size. Harvey said that he thinks what is happening here is giving points for tearing down each five units and rebuilding them. Hlrvey said that the new proposal might be pushing the applicant into more smaller units which may be defeating the purpose of upgrading the quality. ----~_...;.__. - 2 - Alan Richman said that if the issue becomes if the intent is to provide this flexibility for both the non-conforming and the conforming, probably the only way to make it work will be some further refinement to the lodge preservation. Lee Pardee said that at this point, this is part of the PUblic Policy, the relationship and the balance equating 10 points for demolition and reconstruction versus 6 points for proximity is not Public Policy. The Public Policy is established by zoning is to have our lodging at the base of the mountain. Pardee's concern is to yes give some incen- tiveto other than base of the mountain, lower quality lodging to reconstruct. Pardee said that bounds should lean in favor on a point basis for building at th e base of the mountain, where we don't have transportation problems, and all our zoning and public policy is aimed for. Pardee feels that the weighting is quite unfair toward the Public Policy. Spence Schiffer said that he thinks there is another Public Policy here that has not been addressed and that is for example in Han's situation, "you would want him to be rebuilding units before building new units". Schiffer feels that the total number of lodge units should not be increased at first but that you get the quality lodge units first. Olof Hedstrom said that many of these operational things, one would normally rely on competition to combine the incentive or the necessity for the provision and that would be sufficient. Hedstrom said that it does seem that competition in that respect towards providing better and more services doesn't always work. Mark Danielson said that the way it is written now is that you get points for the additional incentives Danielson questions that concept. 6. Bonus Points Alan Richman said that the P&Z had asked the Planning Office to come back after the last set of GMP scoring, with some suggestions regarding the bonus points area. The Planning Office suggested that the Commission award the points as a whole as op- posed to Commission members awarding bonus points individually and then averaging them this may be an area that the Commission would want to discuss the good and the bad points about each application at the end of the scoring. Lee Pardee prefers the High and Low, Perry Harvey said that you could add up all of the bonus points and divide that by all of the Commission members voting. You then add the bonus points as the individual scores and then you total all the individual scores. Alan Richman said that the bottom line score is the average of everybodys score which is therefore averaging across the board. The method that you have now is that the points are awarded individually and they are averaged in and they are added after meeting the threshold point. Richman said that if they do not reach the threshold in areas 1 thru 5 the bonus points will not get the applicant over the th reshold any- way. Olof Hedstrom disagrees with Alan on that point. Jasmine Tygre feeels that people have a right to be extreme if they want to, if they really feel strongly about a particular project. Olof Hedstrom agrees with Jasmine, he suggests that everyone score including bonus points; then the Commission should have a discussion on bonus points. After the discussion everyone, individually puts down what they want. Hedstrom said that in the final tally, the scoring, he suggests using the figureskating method, which eliminates the extremes completely. Alan Richman said that when this Public Hearing was advertised,..it was advertised for not only for section 24.11.6 but also for the commercial quota 24-ll.lC, the PJmnning Office is not. prepared to do that tonight. Olof Hedstrom asked that Alan go through the revisions stage by stage in the code. The Commission members discuss the existing language as compared to the proposed revision. Olof Hedstrom closes the Public Hearing. Lee Pardee moves to accept as changed the Resolution 82- , considered on this day concerning guidelines for re-zoning applications as amended with approval by the Commis- sion for our Chairman to approve as changed. Alan Richman reads the changes: Letter D, it will say at the end "shopping center will not be limited to the following evaluation criteria, as they may apply to the particular application in question. The second change was on #4 removing the first few words and instead saying analysis of the community need for the proposed rezoning including whatever the Planning and Zoning Commission accepted. Jasmine Tyrgre seconds. All in favor. Motion carried. Perry Harvey moves to adjourn. Al Blomquist seconds. All in favor. .4 . ,