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FORM'. c.F.HOECKElB.a.ltl.CJ.
Regular Meeting
Planning and Zoning Commission
May 18, 1982
Chairman Olof Hedstrom called the meeting to order with members Jasmine Tygre,
Perry Harvey, Alom Blomquist, Lee Pardee and Pat Fallin present.
Commissioner
Comments
Hedstrom asked for a report from the attorney's office about
some buildings that may be over the FAR. Gary Esary, attorney's
office, said on one building there was a reliance argument and
the process had to go forward. The investigation on the house
at 500 North street is on-going; there will be a report to P & z.
The attorney's office has asked for a report on this house from
the building department. Pardee said there should be procedures
to make sure this does not happen again. P & Z agreed that
procedures should be developed and adhered to in the future.
Harvey moved to approve the April 20, 1982, minutes; seconded by
Ms. Tygre. All in favor, motion carried.
Eagle's Nest
Rezoning to
RBO/Exemption
from GMP for
Employee units
Colette Penne, planning office, said this is a request to add
two employee units to a newly constructed duplex, requiring an
exemption from GMP and rezoning to RBO. Ms. Penne said the
building is completed and the bulk is there. Rezoning to RBO
would allow an FAR of 1.25:1; this building will be 1.16:1.
Ms. Penne said the addition of two deed restricted employee
units will help the employee pool.
Hedstrom opened the public hearing.
Hedstrom asked what happens if the rezoning to RBO is not
approved. John Kelly, representing the applicant, said it will
stay as is. Blomquist said he could only come up with five
parking spaces, and six are required. Blomquist asked how this
happened. Kelly said he believed that the apron qualifies as
legal parking spaces. Kelly said the Code allows the P & Z
to make a recommendation on parking for employee housing. Kelly
said this should remain flexible because of the nature of the
housing.
Hedstrom said he felt the RBO was a way of squeezing in a little
more density. Hedstrom said he is not sure this is to the
community's advantage. Gordon Denton said this quiet neighbor-
hood has changed a lot with increased density. This proposal
will increase the density by two more units. Denton said he
understood that the FAR for the Eagle's Nest is greater than
that allowed under the Code. Denton said there are only four
usable parking spaces. Denton opposes any exemption of off
street parking requirements; traffic is already congested in
this area.
Jane Urban supported what Denton had to say. Bill Goodenouer,
owner/manager of Snowflake lodge, said the Board of Cottonwoods
is opposed to this proposal. Harvey pointed out the FAR with
and RBO overlay would be 1.25:1; this structure has an FAR of
1.16:1 and is non-conforming. Pardee clarified that granting
an RBO does not increase the density; it will increase the
impacts. Pardee said there are two vacant areas that can be
employee units and deed restricted.
Harvey pointed out the city does have a policy goal of providing
employee housing. This is an RMF zone area. The existing
Regular Meeting
GMP Quotas
Code
Amendment
Planning and Zoning Commission
May 18,1982.
Hedstrom entered two letters into the record; one from R. J.
Kranig, Cottonwood owner, opposed to this application, and one
from Elizabeth Tragis also opposed to this application.
Kelly said he is aware the neighborhs do not like the building.
Kelly said the applicant is asking for something which the city
Code supposedly encourages people to do.
Ms. Tygre said the size of the building is a factor. However,
as a policy, the city is committed to encourage the construction
of employee housing. Ms. Tygre said the parking implications
should be looked at. The applicant should mitigate the impacts
on the neighborhood. Pardee concurred with this and that
parking should be provided.
Hedstrom closed the public hearing.
Pardee moved to recommend approval for rezoning the duples called
the Eagle's Nest condominiums to RBO and exempting the two
proposed employee rental units from the GMP and deed restricting
them to the moderate income category with the following
conditions (1) provide two additional off-street parking spaces
approved by the engineering department, both design and site
inspection prior to this approval becoming effective (2) the
applicant obtain an encroachment license for the existing
encroachment into the Garmisch street; (3) the applicant execute
statement of subdivision exception and declaration of covenants,
restrictions and conditions through the city attorney's office;
(4) the applicant meets the requirements for occupancy of the
units as indicated by the building department in the memo
dated April 29, 1982; (5)that the units will further restricted
from future condominiumization and will remain rental units;
(6) there will be no further expansion of the units; (7) that
the condominium plat be refiled reflecting these conditions;
seconded by Harvey.
Blomquist asked if the applicant is to provide eight off-site
parking spaces and to destroy all the landscaping. Esary
pointed out the Code requires different number of spaces for
duplexes and multi-family structures as to what can be counted
and can the parking be stacked. Blomquist said he would like
to see how the parking is arranged as putting in extra spaces
will affect the open space and adjoining property owners.
Hedstrom said although employee housing is important, it is also
policy to protect the neighborhood. Hedstrom said he feels this
is too high a price to pay for employee housing.
Hedstrom, nay; Tygre, aye; Harvey, aye; Blomquist, nay; Pardee,
aye; Fallin, abstain. Motion carried.
Hedstrom opened the public hearing.
Alan Richman, planning office, reminded the Commission they
have discussed this in detail. Pardee said he is concerned
about tying growth to sewer capacity, the balance. It is like
the chicken and the egg. The city will get to a point where
sewers have to be expanded, then there will be more growth.
Pardee likes bringing employee units into the quota system.
Richman said tying growth to sewer capacity is very operative
and workable; there is a direct relationship between growth and
capacity. Pardee said his problem with this is not just the
sewer, it is having as a constraint the physical services. The
implication is the town will grow as fast as possible. Pardee
said he wants a public policy of limited growth. Vann said
having lots of services does not mean having growth.
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Blomquist said he has a problem with balance, and does not see
in the proposal a balance between short term and long term.
Blomquist also said nothing addresses the balance between
residential and commercial. Vann said this is to close some
holes and give the P & z time to look at the bigger picture.
Gideon Kaufman said he felt there was too much tying between the
city and county. Kaufman said the philosophies between the city
and county are somewhat different. Vann said one cannot ignore
what each jurisidiction is doing. The physical plant services
everyone, schools, buses, roads, sewer, etc. The quotas cannot
be decided in a vacuum. Hedstrom said there ought to be a way
to bring the two philosophies together to operate under the same
goals.
Kaufman said he is concerned about expanding the growth manage-
ment plan to all segments of the community. Kaufman brought up
the allotments for CC, NC, SCI, etc. In the past, there was an
allotment of 24,000 square feet for commercial, the other areas
could build as much as they wanted. Now every zone is under
control, CC and C-l has been reduced and the others are reduced.
Vann said too much was building built in commercial under
24,000 square feet. Richman said commercial growth has a
tremendous impact on the entire community.
Blomquist said he would like all commercial categories reduced
by 33-1/3 per cent. The town is overbuilt and this should be
slowed down. Pardee said he felt the economy will determine
what kind of growth there will be. Pardee pointed out the
proposed 35,000 square feet for commercial is 25 per cent less
than what has been built. Pardee said he is comfortable with
25 per cent less proposal. Harvey agreed with Pardee.
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Ms. Tygre said no one knows to what extent Aspen is overbuilt
at this point. Cutting the commercial square footage available
by 50 per cent may not be as hysterical as it sounds. Kaufman
said it is not right for P & Z to make growth management plan
decisions based on what is economically viable for people.
Kaufman also said this should be legally sustainable. There has
been no growth management 'plan in Office, NC, SCI. There have
to be some reasonable rul~s so that people can plan a project.
Hedstrom said he would accept the recommendations of the planning
staff as to the square footage quotas. Hedstrom asked about
increasing the NC/SCI. Vann said if the Commission does that, it
should be subtracted from CC quota. Richman said Office and CL
zones are as low as possible as still have someone be able to do
a project. Vann pointed out there is a potential for bonus in
the zone district, and the P & Z can award more than one years
quota.
Pardee requested the first Whereas in the resolution to have
included the overall concept and consistency with the past, the
Commission is still maintaining all the basic tenets of the
growth management plan. Hedstrom said the Commission is unani-
mous and firm on that position.
Blomquist moved to request the planning office to prepare a
resolution to present to City Council with the quotas outlined
in the memorandum; seconded by Ms. Tygre. All in favor,
motion carried.
Regular Meeting
Hemmeter
Access System
8040
Greenlive
Review
Subdivision
Exception
Grace Paul
Lodge GMP
Scoring
Resolution
Planning and Zoning Commission
May 18, 1982
Alice Davis, planning office, said this is an 8040 greenline
review for a new access into the Hemmeter residence. This is
for a renovation of the elevator and bridge and walkway. Ms
Davis said this looks lik a visual improvement as well as a
safety improvement. The applicant is also requesting approval
for an earth-covered walkway connecting the access with the
house. The engineering department has recomended the applicant
minimize any disturbances from construction and that revegetation
must occur.
Ms. Davis went through the criteria for 8040 greenline review.
There are no utilities required for this; they have agreed to
relocated the utilities underground. Fire protection has been
an issue in the past, and as much as can be done to mitigate
this has been done. The planning office is recommending
retaining walls to provide more ground stability. Ms. Davis
said the air quality should not be impacted by the project.
Ms. Davis said the site plan is not much different from what
is existing now, except to straighten it out. The applicant
will revegetate. Ms. Davis recommended approval to this
request.
Ms. Tygre moved to approve the 8040 greenline review for the
Hemmeter access system, walkway, trail and landscape plan with
conditions 1, 2, 3, 4 in the planning office memorandum of
May 7, 1982, and condition 5, subject to approval by the Durant
condominium association as suggested in Yaw letter to P & Z
dated April 23, 1982, and Moore to Yaw letter relating to this
application; seconded by Ms. Fallin. All in favor, motion
carried.
Colette Penne, planning office, said this is located at 1415
Sierra Vista in R-15 zone; it is a newly constructed duplex which
does not have a c/o yet. The owner has committed to six month
minimum leases and notice to tenants. The planning office
recommends approval of this with three conditions.
Pardee moved to recommend approval of the subdivision exception
for the purpose of condominiumization of the Grace Paul duplex
at 1415 Sierra Vista with the three conditions listed in the
May 18, 1982, memorandum from the planning department; seconded
by Ms. Tygre. All in favor, motion carried.
Alan Richman, planning office, said there is one change since
P & Z last reviewed this. Richman changed in quality of design
subsection (dd) which used to be called amenities. It is now
called parking and circulation, this area has not been covered
previously. Richman said that amenities is basically covered
in site design. Richman said he felt parking and circulation
are important considerations.
Blomquist suggested a requirement for a neighborhood map, which
shows land ownership and existing land use within 150 feet of
the property line be submitted in all GMP applications. Richman
said the surrounding zones and utilities is already required, and
the adjacent property owners is supplied in list form. Pardee
pointed out that growth management applications are expensive,
and the P & Z should do what they can to keep it simple and keep
the expenses down. Pardee said he did not feel the Commission
lacks for information in GMP applications. Ms. Tygre said the
city is not that large that the Commission cannot just go out
and look at parcel, if they are concerned.
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The Commission discussed rehabilitation and reconstruction of
existing units. Hedstrom requested that the staff take the
comments from this meeting and incorporate them.
Hedstrom thanked the P & Z, the staff and the public for his
time on the P & Z, he has enjoyed the work.
Pardee moved to adjourn at 7:45 p.m.; seconded by Ms. Tygre
All in favor, motion carried.