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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
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FQRM" C.F.HOECKELB.O.&l,CO.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
JUNE 8, 1982
The Planning and Zoning Commission had a regular meeting on June 8, 1982 at 5:00pm in
the City Council Chambers of City Hall. Acting Chairman Welton Anderson called the
meeting to order with members Perry Harvey, Lee Pardee, Roger Hunt, Jasmine Tygre,
Al Blomquist and Pat Falin present.
I. Commissioner's Comments - Welton Anderson suggests that the P&Z come up with a
resolution thanking Olof for the years as chairman of the Planning and Zoning Commission.
Perry Harvey thinks that the Planning office should come up with a list of the major
planning events that went on during his tenure and then the Board should come up with
the other items.
II. Minutes - There are no minutes tonight.
III. Election of Officers - Welton Anderson, as acting chairman and the vice chairman
for three years and senior member going on five years, would like to state that he would
like to stay on as Vice-chairman and nominate another member chairman. Welton Anderson
would like to nominate Perry Harvey. Lee Pardee seconds. Roger Hunt nominates Lee Pardee.
The secretary is instructed to tear up seven pieces of paper for the vote for the new
Chairman. Perry Harvey 4 votes. Lee Pardee 3 votes. Welton Anderson opens nominations
for Vice-chairman. Lee Pardee nominates Welton Anderson. Perry Harvey seconds.
Pardee moves that nominations be closed. All in favor. Motion carried.
Perry Harvey - Chairman. Welton Anderson - Vice-chaiman.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Sorensen's Danish Antiks - Expansion of Conditional Use
Perry Harvey said that this a Public Hearing on Sorensen's Danish Antiks - Expansion of
a Conditional Use.
Alice Davis, of the Planning Office said that the expansion is exempt from GMP because
of the fact that it is subgrade and is used for storage. Davis said that the applicant
is proposing an expansion of a conditional use. The three review criteria include:
1) Compatibility to the zoning code.
2) Compatability with the zoning district
3) Compatability with the surrounding area.
Davis said that the Planning office feels that it is compliance with the zoning code
and the zoning didtrictand surrounding area. The Planning Office recommends approval
of the modifications of the conditional use subject to the conditions that it is 100 %
subgrade and used exclusively for storage.
Roger Hunt moves to recommend approval for the proposed expansion of the conditional use
for Sorensen's Danish Antik's at 734 W. Main Street and that is as proposed or indicated
onthe Planning Office memo dated June 2, 1982.
Jasmine seconds.
All in favor. Motion carried.
Charlemagne Restaurant - Expansion of a Conditional Use.
Colette Penne, of the planning office, said that the request is before the P&Z as an
expansion of a conditional use of a restaurant in the "0" Office zone, which is called
the Charlemagne Restaurant formerly L'Armanac. It is for the area directly in front of
the restaurant and to the East. The applicant has proposed a Flagstone patio with
out door dining. Penne said that all of the planting that are there will remain and will
add a hedge in front of the fence so that the Flagstone won't be readily visable from
Main Street. Penne said that the HPC looked at this and they feel that it is up to
the Planning and Zoning Commission.
The Planning Office recommends approval for this expansion of a conditional use on the
condition that if this use ceases and a subsequent tenant of the restaurant chooses not
to utilize the patio, that the present applicants return the space to grass..
Perry Harvey asked where the entrance to the restaurant will be.
Howard Gunther descibes the set up of the patio.
Roger Hunt said that the Commission has to look at this from a land use point of view,
and at this point Hunt cannot support the application because as far as Hunt is concerned
it is an expansion of already a very intense restaurant use.
Colette Penne said that she would assume that if a restaurant was part of that original
approval, it is a conditional use, but she doubts that there was any verbage at about
the outside. Penne said that this is an extension of a conditional use.
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Roger Hunt said that the point he is trying to make is that it is already a very
intense use on that property.
Lee Pardee feels that this is the kind of expansion of a conditional use that is good
for the city and it is an area that visually it would be attractive. Pardee is very
much in favor of this and is prepared to make a motion.
Jasmine Tygre shares Roger Hunts concerns however ~he benefits of the conditional use
are very apparent in terms of it being attractive.
Colette Penne would like to add that the director of Environmental Health, Tom Dunlop
said that his office would recommend approval and no adverse impacts are anticipated.
Lee Pardee moves that the Planning and Zoning Commission approve the expansion of
conditional use for the Charlemagne Restaurant located in the Flora Dora Building
on Main St. for the outside patio and dining area as descibed by the applicant with the
condition that if this use ceases the subsequent tenenant who chooses not to use the
patio that the present applicants return the space to grass. Pardee is satisfied
with the ten thousand dollar security deposit however: the landlord should be aware
of this stipulation.
Perry Harvey seconds.
Welton Anderson Aye
Perry Harvey Aye
Roger Hunt Nay
Jasmine Tygre Aye
Lee Pardee Aye
Al Blomquist Aye
Pat Falin Aye
Motion carried.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. Aspen Ski Company Ski Patrol Storage Additional - Special Review.
Alice Davis, of the planning office, enters the memorandum of June 4, 1982 into the public
record. The applicant, Aspen Skiing Company, is requesting special review approval
for a 433 square foot addition to the lA Lift Terminal on Aspen Mountain. The request
is made pursuant to Ordinance 81-92 which allows commercial expansions under 500 square
feet to be exempt from Growth Management procedures if the exemption is determined
appropriate by City Council upon the recommendation of P&Z..
The Planning Office recommends that P&Z recommend to City Council special review approval
of the proposed expansion to the Lift lA Terminal. Approval is subject to the conditions
listed in the Planning office memorandum.
Roger Hunt recommends that the special review approval of the proposed expansion of the Lift
lA terminal as included in the Planning office memo dated June 4, 1982. The conditions onE
and two being the same as conditions one and two under planning office recommendation.
Hunt a further addition of condition three that there will be no further encroachment
affecting traditional egress of skiers around this site area.
Welton Anderson suggests that it is exempt from GMP.
Hunt includes that in his motion.
Jasmine Tygre seconds.
Lee Pardee thinks that the Ski Company should not be bound to any further expansion,
Pardee said the Ski Company is doing something fully within the law on their property
and the P&Z should not tie them down or restrict them from future anything.
Perry Harvey feels that if Hunt were to put into his motion that this special review
approval is , just include in there the applicants statement that at this time they are not
going to further encroach on that egress existing right of way, rather than make it a
condition that they never do it, the P&Z could make it a condition that the SkiCompany
that they don't do it as part of this
Welton Anderson said that there is a motion on the floor and are there any other comments.
Welton Anderson Aye
Roger Hunt Aye
Jasmine Tygre Aye
Pat Falin Aye
Al Blomquist Aye
Perry Harvey Nay
Lee Pardee Nay
Motion carried.
VI. RESOLUTIONS
A. Proposed Code Amendment, Section 24-11.1, Adoption of the new Growth Management
Quotas.
Sunny Vann said that in regard to the Resolution No. 82-6 the P&Z directed the Planning
office to draft it in resolution form and bring back to the P&Z.
Welton Anderson suggests that the board go through this page by page..
Perry Harvey said he has some changes on page one in the whereas's. In the fifth Whereas.
Whereas, in response to this concern, the Planning Commission did recommend and City Council
did adopt amendments to the Growth Management Quota System to extend the coverage of the
limitation on commercial development. Harvey said that he would rather see the word
regulation of commercial development rather than limitation.
Sunny Vann said that would not be a problem.
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Perry Harvey said that in the next whereas, it is a little confusing. The P&Z's reason-
ing behind this was just that unbrideled growth in zones outside of CC and Cl and
growth of employee housing outside of the contol or residential quota. It seems that this
could be a little clearer. Harvey said that in the next whereas, he would like to see
it read "and believes that as of this time there is a balance between our existing
tourist accomodations and ski capacity. There exists however in lodging condition directly
related to the question is the quality of the accomodations relative to price.
Lee Pardee has a question on number four of the second page. Pardee does not think that
the P&Z would want to say that it resulted in a dual growth rate but would rather say
higher than anticipated growth growth.
SunnyVann said that he would have to disagree because it is dual.
Welton Anderson does not understand the logic behind taking 24,OOOsq. foot a year
allocation for CC and Cl.
Sunny Vann said that the planning office is taking a metro approcah in coming up with a
total approach in coming up with a total approach which can be sustained on a short
range based on an overiding short range constraint capacity. There are certain legal
obligations in respect to "single familys" there is another desire to improve the lodging
situation which results in increasing th quota there and creating one in the County
so whats left over is the ugly duckling,the commercial sector. So we are going to a
total of approximately 50,000 sq. feet in the Metro area as a whole. We are talking about
a net reduction in total commercial growth. So the Planning office is now reducing the
amount that was previously available in the CC and Cl.
Perry Harvey moves to recommend adoption of Resolution No. 82-6 as amended at this meetin~
Jasmine Tygre seconds.
All in favor. Roger Hunt abstains. Motion carried.
B. Proposed Code Amendment, Section 24-11.6, Lodge GMP scoring Procedures.
Sunny Vann: said that Resolution 82-5 was ready for approval at the last P&Z meeting
except for one area of confusion or ambiguity that Mark Danielson had raised with
respect to the rehabilitation of reconstruction positions for previous units.
The way that it currently works now is that it gives a specific allocation of 1 point if
the applicant agrees to rehabilitate or reconstruct five existing lodge rooms up the the
maximum of twenty-five total units or five points total of the twenty in this section.
Mark Danielson said that the only question he had was to clear up a potential ambiguity,
"higher quality status which may alter the size of the unit" Danielson said that it should
be cleared up to say that you may alter the size but that doesn't mean the footprint too.
Perry Harvev doesn't see that there is any difference in the point scoring rather you are
rehabilitating or reconstructing.
Mark Danielson said that the definition of rehabilitation is" rehabilitation shall include
the upgrading of a structure, etc. etc. .
Al Blomquist would like to raise a question on page four. Under three down to aa and
bb. To give that many points for basicly indoor facilities and not give commensurate
points for outdoor summer type facilities carries forward that skiing only type focus.
Blomquist tried to change aa to be availability of indoor common meeting areas such
as restaurants bars, lobby's and conference areas taking restaurants and bars out of bb.
Then changing bb to read availability of summer type outdoor areas and facilities;
including gardens, swimming pools, picnic areas, tennis courts etc.
Perry Harvey said that when the P&Z went through this particular section they put the lan-
guage in to make these facilities relative to the overall size of the project so that
they wouldn't create an imbalance.
Lee Pardee commented that he thinks that the public policy in number 4 indicates that P&Z
wants to, prior to having any new small lodges they would like to rehabilitation and
reconstruction of existing and any new applicants they would like something great.
Sunny Vann said that he thinks that most of the requests for small quotas are probably
going to be expansion of existing facilities.
Perry Harvey moves to adopt Resolution 82-5
Jasmine Tygre seconds.
All in favor. Roger Hunt abstains. Motion carried.
Welton Anderson asked if there is a motion to adjour.
Lee Pardee so moves.
Perry Harvey seconds.
All in favor. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned.
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