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FORM ~O c. r. H DECK EL B. 8. a. l. CD.
Special Meeting
planning and Zoning Commission
April 26, 1983
Vice Chairman Anderson called the meeting to order at 5:08 p.m. with members
Jasmine Tygre, Lee Pardee, Roger Hunt, and Al Blomquist present.
Rubey Park
Rezoning
Ms. Tygre said there should be some protection for the city
as far as the control of the public space is concerned. Ms.
Penne said she had added that "operations that may be commer-
cial or public, depending on details of operation may apply
through conditonal use review to be included in the public
space." Monroe Summers told P & Z Council's position on this
is an agreement in writing, the terms of which can be put
forth on the ballot question.
Pardee said the P & Z is recommending to Council this should
be a Robin Hood approach; the free market development will
allow the city to have the transportation and public space
at no cost. Ms. Tygre agreed this is important to be
included in the resolution. Sunny Vann, planning director,
said the question is at what point does space become "public".
Vann said the rent has something to do with it, but also
it is a decision as to whether to exempt this from growth
management as truly a public space.
Pardee said one of the reasons the P & Z is doing this rezoning
and zoning the land public/SPA is because they think the city
is going to get a free ride. Pardee said he wants Council
to know they are doing this rezoning based on information
from the applicant, the city being one, that the city will
get free public space at no cost. Pardee said he would like
a whereas to that effect in the resolution.
Blomquist said he would like to add to number 2 on page 2,
"including a contractual commitment by the developer that all
public space shall be free to the City at all times". Ms.
Penne agreed that should be added somewhere in the resolution
perhaps not as a condition but as a recommendation.
Blomquist asked what the city was getting for the land for
for permission to build outside the GMP quota. This was
initiated by the city, not the developer. Summers said the
city is getting 9,090 square feet of space to be used as a
public facility. Summers said it is not possible for no money
to change hands associated with this public space. The
intention is to have the use of the 9,000 square feet come out
a wash for the city. The city has maintenance and landscaping
costs and keeping the building in shape. There will be some
revenues derived from the public space.
City Attorney Taddune said the concern of the commission is
that they do not want to approve a private project but some-
thing that is of public benefit. Taddune said this will be
submitted to the voters. Pardee suggested these approvals
should be contingent upon voter approval. Pardee said this
is rezoning on a "what if" basis. Pardee said the recommenda-
tion to Council is contingent upon a vote.
Taddune suggested putting language in the resolution that the
P & Z has a concern that this remain as a public project
both in use and economically. Richman said the planning
staff will redraft the resolution with this amendment.
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Planning and Zoning Commission
April 26, 1983
Pardee moved to approve Rubey Park resolution 83-3 as amended
in this meeting and granting approval for Welton Anderson,
our chairman of vice, to sign the resolution; seconded by
White. All in favor, motion carried.
Shapery Downtown
Storage
SPA Plan
Welton Anderson stated he would run the meeting but will
abstain from voting because of some prior involvement.
Ms. Penne, planning office, said this meeting is to review
the specific plan for the Shapery project. Ms. Penne out-
lined the project breakdown, the number of units, square
footage, corridors, on-site management and office. If P & Z
adopts this, it will constitute an amendment to the SPA master
plan for the Trueman project. The underlying zoning is SIC/I.
Regarding compatibility with surrounding land uses, it depends
on which direction the building is fit. To the south and
east are N/C uses, which are compatible; the north and west
are the river, A.C.E.S., and the Roaring Fork greenway and
the compatibility is questionable. Ms. Penne said the appli-
cant has responded to this sensitive areas; one is to give
the rear 120 feet closest to the river for use as park and
to landscaping in this area. Another response is the proposal
to move the trail from the east side of the property to the
west side. This is a better alternative for the trail.
Ms. Penne told P & Z the applicant has said he will fence the
project with natural materials as well as to limit the hours
of operation. Ms. Penne saod one of the problems with the
development at this site is that the Trueman SPA was four lots
and all attention was given to lot 1. When lot 2 was conveyed
to the post office, there was not a look at parking, traffic,
landscaping.
Ms. Penne said as far as the use of this facility, people in
Aspen who need quick access to stored goods will use this
facility, renter will use a private vehicle to access this,
and a trip to this location will probably be multi-purposed.
In the S/C/I zone, a storage facility is a relatively low
impact uses. Other uses could be a lumber yard, vehicle
sales, car wash. Ms. Penne said she felt the site plan was
inventive, and this is a nicer warehouse facility than usual.
The area and bulk requirements in the S/C/I zone will be
met by this project. Ms. Penne said there are pros and cons
in the issues of land use compatibility, Rio Grande trail,
traffic and the site plan. The planning office weighed the
pros and cons and recommdns approval with conditions outlined
in the April 25, 1983, memorandum.
Gideon Kaufman, representing the applicant, reiterated this
is the review of the precise plan for the SPA for lot 3 of
Trueman subdivison. There is no enquiry into the uses are
permitted on this lot; that was set when the underlying S/C/I
zoning was adopted. Kaufman said this applicant has a due
process right to have his application for adoption of a
precise plan heard in a timely fashion.
Kaufman said by the city adopting the S/C/I zone for the
parcel and the applicant agreeing to be bound by SIC/I, many
items of the SPA review process were predetermined. A mini-
warehouse is clearly a permitted use in the S/C/I zone.
The area and bulk requirements are predetermined by the S/C/I
zone and are being applied to this lot. The only variance
sought is a 5 foot setback to accommodate the best location
for the Koch lumber building to line up with other buildings.
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Kaufman said he takes exception to the traffic assumptions
made by Ms. Penne in the planning office memorandum. Kaufman
told the Board because of the traffic concerns, they hired
an engineer to do a traffic analysis of this project. The
traffic engineer stressed the multi-purpose trip, which is
a positive factor. The traffic engineer states that of all
the permitted uses in the s/e ~ zone, miniwarehouse generates
the least amount of traffic.
Kaufman pointed out the applicant has the right to relocate
the trail to any place on his property; therefore, this is
not germaine to discussion. There may be no discussion of
this as long as the trail is provided for. Kaufman reminded
P & Z the applicant has successfully competed in the GMP.
Kaufman addressed the eleven conditions. *1 has been done on
the site plan there is no problem for retaining the existing
easements for storm drainage and access to Jenny Adair park.
Number 2, letters from Holy Cross and the San District
have been given to the engineering department and will be
placed in the record.
Number 3, assurances from adjacent property owners, the appli-
cant does not need to grade any adjacent property owners
property. Permission has been received from the San District
to move their trail and grade on their property. Number 4,
the engineering department and applicant has compromised on
a 5 foot setback. Number 5, no problem, as number 6 is
no problem. Kaufman told Council he felt number 7 was
unnecessary but did not have a problem with. Number 8 through
11 they have no problems with. Kaufman entered letters and
reports into the record.
Tom Wells presented the maps and plans, showed electrical
easements, transformers, trail easement, the Koch lumber
building, etc.
Taddune counseled P & Z to ignore the conclusions of law and
to decide on the basis of their feelings as to whether or
not this application is in conformity to the standards of
the SPA review criteria. Pardee said the original subdivision
said 1.24 acres would be recreation and 1.99 would be open
space. Pardee questioned where this land is, and should the
city be suing Trueman for not providing that open space and
that recreation. Taddune said he has been concentrating his
research on whether or not lot 3 is a developable lot. Ms.
Penne said the only evidence regarding the land Pardee is
questioning is in a memorandum about the preliminary plat,
and there is no recorded preliminary plat. These conditions
were not carried over to final plat.
Ms. Penne told the P & Z that Sandy Stuller has been doing
research on this subdivision and the entire file. Taddune
said he and Ms. Stuller can find no basis for even thinking
any illegality happened along the way. Kaufman said this
is putting the burden on the applicant to prove the zoning,
which the city has never done before. Taddune stated he
cannot find any evidence that this application is not properly
before the P & Z.
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Anderson asked how many times this application has been before
the P & z. Kaufman said five. Kaufman said it is time to
get on with the SPA application. Taddune pointed out at one
time lot 3 was offered to the city as a donation and the city
rejected it.
Anderson opened the public hearing.
Hal Clark said he felt the city ought to purchase this property
Blomquist said this project has to be approved because it
meets the criteria, the design is superior to other designs
the Board has seen, the trail will be moved, there will be
berming and landscaping to screen the project. Blomquist
asked a representative of A.C.E.S if they would help the city
negotiate to buy this property or at least the trail easement.
Clark told P & Z the property Blomquist is talking about is
not owned by A.C.E.S. but is owned by Mrs. Paepcke, and they
have been discussing this two years. Clark said Mrs. Paepcke
will look at this warehouse as another major project in her
backyard. The city is buying property in this area to
accommodate a trail.
Hunt said there is already a traffic problem in the area and
this may cause cross traffic interference. Kaufman said there
is a four page report from a traffic engineer. Hunt said that
dealt with volume, he is talking about the site specific and
the wide turns. Hunt suggested moving the road. Kaufman
showed the road plan, with a 28 foot standard road, showing
also the entrance and exit. There will only be 3.5 cars/hour.
Anderson closed the public hearing.
Pardee moved to recommend to City Council approve of the
specific SPA plan as submitted of the Shapery downtown storage
with the 11 conditions outlined on page 5 of the planning
office memorandum of April 25, 1983; seconded by Ms. Fallin.
Hunt said he would like it indicated to the Council because of
what the P & Z thought should happen to this property, this
project is not appropriate. However, because of how the
property is zoned, the P & Z must approve it. Hunt said he
is forced into voting for this. It some other location it
would be a perfectly good project.
Blomquist added that the city either buy or negotiate a trail
easement along the west boundary as condition 12 and as 13
urge that the city, at its discretion, consider approving the
full 21,056 square feet of construction in one construction
season so as to minimize the negative impacts of construction
on the environment. Taddune suggested these be recommenda-
tions rather than conditions. Blomquist pointed out the P & Z
has a resolution stating the city should buy it all.
All in favor of the motion on the floor, Anderson abstained.
Motion carried.
Pardee said he would like the resolution to Council to indicate
this project was approved because it met all require conditions
it went through all required steps and met all minimums,
although the P & Z unanimously feels the project is in the
wrong place. Second, the P & Z recommends the city should
buy the project.
Blomquist moved the P & Z recommends to Council (1) the
previous resolution recommending purchase of the entire
property for park and open space purposes be considered,
(2) should purchase of the full property not be considered
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by Council, the P & Z recommends that Council purchase or
obtain easements sufficient land on the west to permit full
berming, landscaping, and trail construction for the project,
(3) P & Z recommends should the project go forward, that in
order to avoid undue construction drag out, that Council
approve the full 21,856 square foot project as provided in
an earlier resolution from this commission.
Kaufman said if Shapery is able to do the project at once,
the applicant would be willing to pay for the moving of the
trail, grading, and landscaping to alleviate the city having
that expense. This would save Shapery the expense of having
to do the project piecemeal. Hunt requested this be included
in the motion. Ms. Penne noted that both the planning office
and P & Z recommended to Council to give an allotment to the
entire project. Council deliberated and decided not to do
that.
Blomquist added "upon hearing this resolution, the applicant
agreed that should Council allow construction in one construc-
tion period, the applicant will pay the full cost of construc-
tion of the trail, berming and landscaping".
Ms. Tygre said she would prefer to vote on condition *3
separately from conditions 1 and 2. Blomquist said he does
not want condition 3 severed. Blomquist stated the city
either buys the property or gets a finished project with
minimum disruption to the environment as his position.
Blomquist reiterated his motion with his above amendment about
building the trail.
White seconded. Hunt, Blomquist and Anderson in favor,
Pardee and Ms. Tygre opposed. Motion carried.
Hunt moved to adjourn at 6:45 p.m.; seconded by Pardee. All
in favor, motion carried.
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