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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19830621 r RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves FORM 5~ C. F _ H DECK EL D. B. & L. CO. Regular Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission June 21, 1983 Perry Harvey called the meeting to order at 5:05 with members Jasmine Tygre, Pat Fallin Lee Pardee, David White and Roger Hunt present. Commissioner Comments Roger Hunt brought up the used car lot at Cemetery Lane on city property. Hunt said he would like to have the police department tow these cars for sale out of this lot. Gary Esary pointed out Hunt brought this up at the June 29, 1980 P & Z meeting. (Welton Anderson came into Chambers). Alan Richman,planning office, reminded P & Z there is a meet- ing scheduled for next Tuesday at 5:00 p.m. Hunt asked what was going on with the transportation consoli- dation. Richman told Council has appointed a steering committee for the interim board to form a transit authority. Hunt asked if the planning staff was keeping informed in case something has to be done from a planning point of view. Vann said they are staying on top of the proposal; there is no operational issue or system changes. Right now, it is purely organizational. Hunt said he recollected in discussions about the airport, the P & Z recommended it be extended in the other direction. Now it is being extended to the foot of Buttermilk mountain. Richman said the county P & Z adopted the work that is going on as consistent with the master plan. Hunt said the city should be concerned about the lower altitude pattern over the city. Hunt said he felt the city P & Z should have had a say in this. Colette Penne told the Commission at the next meeting they will review a conditional use expansion for the satellite dish at KSPN. The P & Z may want to do a site inspection at 4:30 p.m. P & Z agreed. Election of Officers Anderson nominated Perry Harvey as Chairman; seconded by Pardee. All in favor, motion carried. Pardee nominated Welton Anderson as vice-Chairman; seconded by Roger Hunt. All in favor, motion carried. L-3 Quota System Resolution Pardee said the goal in this is to get reconstruction or renovation that is better than average. Pardee said he feels 60 per cent works well. Harvey asked if the planning office feels that nathaving a greater than one multiple on recon- truction and rehabilitation is okay. Richman said yes. Sunny Vann, planning director, said there is some flexibility; if a lodge is handicapped in one area, he could choose to renovate more rooms. Vann said this should not be so compe- titive that an applicant has to do more than he can do. White said he wanted to give an initiative to the lodge owners and would like to see a two multiplier. White said he would like more than ten units to be allowed for the quota. Harvey said if the P & Z gives a multiplier of two, an applicant can come in an rehabilitate 25 per cent of the rooms and score the same number of points than 50 per cent of the rooms. Pardee said the 60 per cent should be a modest, obtainable goal. There should be a balance to get the threshold requires the applicant to have a good project. Harvey said with a "''''''~''''''''''-'''''''''''--~'. Regular Meeting Planning and Zoning Commission June 21, 1983 multiplier, this will push people into renovating more units to score the same number of points. White said with a multiplier of two, lodges will renovate more quickly. Pardee said double the points, or a multiplier of two would skew too much for just doing something new. Anderson said the multiplier is fine the way it is. Lodge owners should not tear down rooms that are serviceable and usable by tourists just to get points. Harvey opened the public hearing. Hunt said the gross number of points for rehabilitation is low in relation to employee housing. Hunt said he did not care about a multiplier. Hunt said he would like to see the ratio between those two changed. Ms. Tygre agreed with Hunt. Pardee said he felt everyone will g~the employee housing points. Vann said the issue is the employee housing philosophy to create incentives to house the short fall, and all subsequent development will take care of its own. Vann said if the Board wants to look at the employee housing requirement and rehabilitation in an L-3 lodge, fine, but they should maintain the underlying premise of the employee housing policy. Pardee suggested added language on page 6, paragraph 4, "under L-3 if there is no requirement for additional employees, the full percentage will be given." Vann said it could be that or it could be removing it from the total in terms of computing the 60 per cent. John Werning said he felt, because of the economics of small lodges, the employee housing problem will take care of itself. Werning suggested this should be looked at individually for each project. Werning said he would like to see this be flexible. Hunt said it might be better to take the employee housing out of the initial threshold for L-3 lodges. Richman said there might be a 25 room addition to a lodge, the P & Z should be able to consider employee housing. Employee housing is an over-riding consideration across all development. Harvey said the P & Z could give 1 point for each 5 percent of the rooms up to 50 per cent for rehabilitation, and 1 point for each 10 per cent over that. That would give 15 points. Richman said this is a good way to do this. White reiterated he had a problem with a 10 unit quota; one person could use the entire quota in one year. Harvey said the P & Z has the option of bonus quota and multi-year quotas. There is flexibility in the quota system. Vann said the incentive here is renovation in order to be able to expand. Harvey said there has to be a workable ratio between the two. Richman told P & Z he had added language about the pre- application conference with the planning office. Vann said this is in addition to contacting the lodge association and having public meetings to help everyone understand the system. Pardee said in the first "whereas" of the resolution, some language should be added to indicate the P & Z would look favorable upon additional years of quota. Anderson pointed out that "whereas's" are not legal; they are more a statement. Richman said the P & Z has the right, right now to allow bonuses or multi-years quota. Harvey suggested a letter to the lodge owners to encourage renovation and rehabilitation and to explain the process. Richman pointed out the resolution includes expenses incurred in the last 24 months to go towards the points in that area. Harvey said the Board ahd discussed this and did not want the money to just have gone into cosmetic upgrading. Richman - "', RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 1 00 Leaves Regular Meeting:" June 21, 1983 FORM'~ C. F. HOEC~EL B. B. lie L. CJ. Change in Use Resolution Howard Stream Margin Review Planning and zoning Commission -3- agreed there should be a language change to clarify this and to focus on lodge units, not just appearance. Kaufman suggested changing the language so that the applicant can present to the P & Z so that it is broad enough that if the rooms do not need to be fixed, perhaps the plumbing or electric system were upgraded. Kaufman said the applicant should be able to make the argument to the P & z that he put his money into something that was needed on the premise. Harvey suggested a standard of measure. Hunt say some applicants may argue where they are putting what percent of money into what part of the project; how the money is utilized to upgrade the project. Pardee said he was for leaving it as is, on a room basis, with points awarded at the discretion of Commission judging the lodge as a whole. The Commission requested language be added to this effect. Richman brought up the change in the definition of dormitory. This language comes directly out of the building code. P & Z requested that the planning office rework this resolution and bring it back June 28th. This should go to Council by August. Harvey continued the public hearing on L-3 Quota system to June 28, 1983. Harvey opened the public hearing. Alan Richman said the focus in this resolution is whether the impacts are negligible. There is a change of use in the county code, and Richman said it works. Pardee suggested that the criteria should be negligible or mitigatible, rather than junst negligible. Richman said mitigatable impacts, such as changing a ten unit dwelling structure into 20,000 square feet of commercial space, are supposed to go through the system. Pardee suggested changing the sentence to read, "growth impacts shall be defined as any activity which result in more than a negligible increase in parking demand, water, sewer, etc.". Vann said the concern of the planning office is that a person wants a commercial use; however, there is a lot of competition in commercial and no one has applied for a residential compe- tition. The applicant designs and applies for residential and then convert to commercial. This would circumvent the Code. Hunt said one of the reasons for this amendment is to be able to keep track of the changes. Harvey closed the public hearing. Pardee moved to recommendation adoption of Resolution 83-5, change in use GMP exemption, with the changes made in this meeting with the proviso this be signed by the Chairman after the change, with a vote of approval for these changes; seconded by Hunt. All in favor, motion carried. Colette Penne, planning office, told P & Z that none of the referral agencies had a problem with this application. Pardee moved to recommend approval for the stream margin Regular Meeting June 21, 1983 review for the Howard residence on Lot 7, Block 1, Red Butte Subdivision; seconded by Hunt. All in favor, motion carried. Pardee moved to adjourn at 6:20 p.m; seconded by Hunt. All in favor, motion carried. '-' " ;