HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19790918
BRADFORD PUBLISHING CO., DENVER
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
September 18, 1979
Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
The Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission held a regular meeting on September 18,
1979, at 5:00 PM in the City Council Chambers. Members present were Olof Hedstrom
Welton Anderson, Lee Pardee and Roger Hunt. Also present were Karen Smith of the
Planning Office and City Attorney Ron Stock.
Approval of Minutes
Commissionmember
Comments
Aspen Ski School,
Conditional Use
Coordes Housing
Project
Hunt moved to approve the minutes of August 7, 1979, as is
and the minutes of August 23, 1979, as amended, Anderson
seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
Pardee wanted to see the P&Z speed resolution of the trailer
park zoning and trailer park specifications. The p&Z had
a site inspection that turned up alot of fire hazards in
need of immediate attention. He also asked that the City
Engineer, Building Inspector and Fire Marshal come to the
next P&Z meeting and give their comments. Hedstrom sug-
gested a special meeting to discuss only this issue. Pardee
suggested the Fire Marshal and Building Inspector begin en-
forcing the minimum regulations of the Building Code.
Hedstrom called for a special meeting Wednesday, September
26, 1979.
Smith introduced the application. The Ski Corp wishes to
make an addition to the ski school building of 275 square
feet. This building is in the C-Conservation zone. She
presented a plat of the building and the proposed addition.
Smith noted that the Planning Office memo recommends denial.
because they originally did not think the application would
comply with Conservation District setback requirements.
They have since resolved this question. The Planning Office
now recommends approval.
Hedstrom opened the public hearing. There were no comments.
Hedstrom closed the public hearing.
Hunt moved to recommend approval of the expansion of the
conditional use of the Aspen Ski School Building located
at the base of Little Nell as it is compatible with the
existing Conservation zoning, Anderson seconded. All in
favor, motion approved.
Joan Klar entered the meeting.
Anderson stepped down from the Commission due to a conflict
of interest.
Reents introduced the application. The applicant wishes
to add a second story on the south wing on his house. The
addition is employee housing to be controlled by the price
guidelines. The applicant wishes the three units be desig-
nated one low, one moderate, one middle. There is a possi-
bility these units may be condominiumized in the future.
Pardee asked if they were changing the outside of the
building. Welton Anderson said they would be removing the
roof and adding a floor. Klar was concerned with tenant
displacement if the units are condominiumized. Pardee felt
they would be displacing tenants if they take off the roof.
Hunt moved to recommend approval of the expansion of the
three low, moderate and middle income housing units to the
existing Coordes building known as the Coordes Housing
Project conditioned that, 1) if breaking of an existing
lease occurs during construction, the developer will provide
comparable housing, 2) the property will be deed restricted
to include the new units within the low/ moderate and middle
income housing guidelines. Further, the P&Z finds that the
expansion of these low, moderate and middle income housing
units are exempt from the Growth Management Plan and other-
wise, this expansion is beneficial to the community, Klar
seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
-2-
Regular Meeting
September 18, 1979
Housing Overlay
L-l Code Amendment
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
Anderson resumed his position on the Commission.
Smith said this proposal is similar to the previous proposal
in that it gives a density bonus in return for a substantial
number of units being committed to employee housing. The
ordinance offers a doubling of the density in R-6, R-15,
R-30 and R-40 and allows the P&Z and City Council to vary
the minimum lot area required per unit by special review
in the other zones. The ordinance also shortens the review
procedure for employee housing. The first step addresses
the questions of impacts and how well it meets the needs
of employee housing. This step does not require a public
hearing before the P&Z, only before the City Council. The
second step is the final plat with technical information.
It offers an exemption from the GMP. It allows multi-family
uses in the single family residential districts. In order
for projects to qualify for this bonus, they must have at
least 75% of the units in the employee housing pool.
Unlike the previous proposed ordinance, this ordinance
allows a variance from FAR and other area and bulk restric-
tions with guidelines. The ordinance provides for a pre-
application conference with various staff members to discuss
the application before entering the process. P&Z was con-
cerned about changing the character of single family neigh-
borhoods; in this ordinance, projects will be favored which
are most compatible with the existing character of developed
neighborhoods. The bonus potential has been deleted from
the Rural Residential and Conservation Zone because they
are not suitable for a doubling of density. The ordinance
does not permit a variation from the minimum lot area, the
maximum height, the setbacks, the internal FAR and the mini-
mum distance between buildings. It also does not allow
variation in the external FAR in the zones that already
grant the density bonus, O-Office, C-C and C-l. She recom-
mended adding that smaller additions that would not require
a subdivision plat may proceed through the first step only.
She felt the preapplication conference would help guide the
applicant and eliminate future complications. Pure employee
housing projects may go ahead at any time but mixed projects
should proceed in conjunction with annual review of residen-
tial allotments.
Stock felt they must require 50% employee housing with 50%
free market units in order to get a response to this bonus.
He did not feel the preapplication conference was necessary.
He did not agree with a two step process.
Hedstrom asked that they return to this item later in the
meeting.
Smith noted that City Council supported this amendment.
She noted the P&Z previously declined to support this.
They felt this might open the way for condominiumization
of lodges yet this type of conversion would go through GMP.
This amendment would allow nonconforming uses to improve.
She noted the only potential buildout in the L-l zone is
the property owned by Mr. Sabbatini who initiated this
proposal. She noted a proposal for a residential and
lodge preservation clause which would allow nonconforming
uses to reconstruct or restore. The City Council is aSking
for P&Z's recommendation on this item.
Hedstrom opened the public hearing.
Rich Sabbatini restated that he had asked for P&Z's support
of this amendment. P&Z did not wish to support this and
the City Council was interested. The item is now back to
P&Z for comment. He owns the only buildable property in
this district. He said it is financially impossible to
build what is allowed on his property. He bought the lodge
five years ago and converted it to long term residential
--
.....I
BRADFORD PUBLISHING CO., DENVER
-3-
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
September 18, 1979
Regular Meeting
Mollie Gibson Lodge
Subdivision
Exemption
Aspen Planning andZonin<1 Commission
units. He now wishes to reconstruct the old building into
5 or 6 free market townhouse units in place of the 6
existing units. Four of the townhouses would be sold, two
would be retained by Mr. Sabbatini. He asked for support
of this amendment.
Klar asked about tenant displacement. Smith said they would
discuss this at condominiumization. Hunt supported the
preservation clause for nonconforming uses. He did not
feel it wise to change an entire zone district for one
piece of property. Hedstrom noted the P&Z has been con-
cerned about the nonconforming use problems. Anderson
agreed that the preservation clause would alleviate this
problem. Pardee concurred. Smith noted that a noncon-
forming use is not allowed to condominiumize.
Hedstrom closed the public hearing.
Hedstrom concurred with the commission's feeling that this
problem is best solved by a preservation clause rather than
amending the zoning code. Smith understood the concern
of the commission but did not feel the amendment would
damage this zone.
Hunt moved to ask the Planning Office to draft a resolution
recommending to City Council that there be no change to
the existing L-l zone for the reasons the P&Z has given in
their previous action, however, further indicating to
Council that we are fully aware of the problems of this
particular project and that we believe that it is advisable
in this case to handle in under the proposed expansion of
nonconforming use clause which we are presently engaged in
working on and within the housing overlay, Pardee seconded.
All in favor~ motion approved.
Smith introduced the application. She noted the lodge is
a nonconforming use in the R-6 zone district. The code
does not allow subdivision of a nonconforming use. She
noted the City Attorney is working on an amendment that
would exempt from the GMP this type of conversion. The
Planning Office recommends denial.
Herb Klein, representing the applicant, asked the commission
to consider the merits of the application notwithstanding
the comments of the City Attorney. David Jones, owner of
the Mollie Gibson, noted the lodge has 20 units. He feels
he has given the best service possible to his customers.
He noted he also owns the Aspen Ski Lodge, formally the
Smuggler Lodge. This lodge was in great need of upgrading.
He also noted. the Mollie Gibson is also in need of work that
he cannot do because it is a nonconfoming use. He said if
he was granted condominiumization, he intends to have every
room upgraded along with the rest of the lodge without
changing the nature of the lodge, only the ownership. Klein
felt condominiumization was the only way to finance these
improvements without raising the rates substantially.
Hunt asked how they would prevent an owner from installing
a hotplate/kitchen. Klein felt the town was losing more
by not allowing these lodges to upgrade than worrying about
one owner out of 100 that will not rent out his unit. He
did not feel there was any way to make someone promise to
never to install a kitchen, etc. Hunt wanted to see some
type of agreement that the lodge would be operated by one
management. Klein agreed to attempt this type of language.
Pardee felt the Mollie Gibson is what it is because of
David Jones and questioned what would happen without his
concern. He felt the number of units owned by people who
did not need to rent them out for the income would increase.
-4-
Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
September 18, 1979
Coordes Housing
Project
Housing Overlay
-"
Jones noted that lodges are not a viable entity anymore.
Anderson suggested condominiumizing one quarter of the lodge
and leaving the rest as is. Jones entertained the sugges-
tion and also suggested a programmed release of the rest
of the units over 5 years. Klar asked if the preservation
clause proposal would help their situation. Jones said
it would have helped a few years ago but it would not be
financially possible now.
Stock said the code created a downward spiral that made it
impossible for certain lodges to upgrade. He is working on
a method for these lodges to be reconstructed without limi-
tation. He noted that nonconforming uses.cannot condomini-
umize. He suggested an amendment to the GMP that exempts
the modification from a nonconforming use to a conforming
use.
Anderson moved to recommend denial of the Subdivision
Exemption for condominiumization of the Mollie Gibson Lodge
based upon Section 20-9(c) of the Aspen Municipal Code
which states that no subdivision shall be approved which
includes elements not in conformance to the provisions
of any applicable zoning ordinance or other ordinance of
the City of Aspen, Pardee seconded. All in favor, motion
approved.
Hedstrom noted that Stock was working on an amendment to
the code that would exempt conversion from nonconforming
to conforming uses from the GMP. Smith noted there is
also a subcommittee of the P&Z working on this question.
Stock noted that Gideon Kaufman, representing the applicant,
was not present earlier in the meeting during the discus-
sion of this application. He asked that they reconsider
this application. The Commission agreed to this request.
Kaufman said the applicant wishes to build three employee
units in his project in addition to condominiumization of
the other part of the project.
Hunt moved to reconsider his previous motion concerning
the Coordes Housing Project, Pardee seconded. All in favor,
motion approved.
Hunt moved to reword the second condition to indicate that
the property will be deed restricted to state that the in-
creased numbers of units will be included in the Low,
Moderate and Middle income housing guidelines, Pardee
seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
Smith noted that Stock was doubtful that the 75%/25%
ratio would be enough incentive for developers. She agreed
it might not work for fourplexes but would work for the
larger projects. She felt the preapplication conference
would guide the applicant. She felt the final step was
important because it ties up the technical details. She
suggested a guideline that would encourage development that
it suitable in terms of its character with existing devel-
opment in the neighborhood. The ordinance does not allow
any variation in setback requirements. Hunt did not feel
building over an existing wall that is in the setback was
a problem. He felt they should not allow new construction
to violate the setback requirements.
Ashley Anderson, representing Hans Cantrup, noted the
pressing need for employee housing. He asked that the P&Z
not bog down this ordinance. He felt the 75/25 ratio would
work if you could build the free market immediately. He
asked that they build flexibility into the ordinance.
Anderson felt the ordinance was too lengthy and complicated.
.......
--J
BRADFORD PUBLISHING CO.. DENVER
-5-
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
September 18, 1979
Regular Meeting
Resolution #79-17
Wright-Gant
Annexation
Rezoning
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
The Commission asked Stock to meet with Smith and Reents
to finish writing this ordinance and set a public hearing.
Hunt moved to adopt resolution #79-17, Anderson seconded.
All in favor, motion approved..
Klar moved to adjourn the meeting, Anderson seconded. All
in favor, motion approved. Meeting adjourned at 8:30 PM.
~-ttJf\. );~~ )
Sheryl . en, Depu y City Clerk