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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
August 21, 1979
Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
The Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission held a regular meeting on August 21, 1979
at 5:00 PM in the City Council Chambers. Members present were Olof Hedstrom,
Lee Pardee, Nancy McDonnell, Perry Harvey, Joan Klar and Roger Hunt. Also present
were Karen Smith, Richard Grice and Jolerte Vrchota of the Planning Office.
Approval of Minutes
Rezoning Smuggler
Enclave Property
Reconsideration of
Alternate Members
to P&Z
Hunt moved to table approval of the minutes, Pardee seconded
All in favor, motion approved.
Smith explained that the annexation has occurred but the
zone that they are aSking P&Z to recommend for this land
has not yet been adopted as a zone in the Aspen Municipal
Code. Harvey asked if they could recommend this zoning
conditioned upon the adoption of this zone district. Smith
said Stock intended to have p&Z hear both the adoption of
the MHP zone and the designation of this area as MHP. She
recommended they follow this procedure. The Commission
began to discuss Ordinance 57, 1979, an ordinance creating
a MHP zone.
Smith said this ordinance creates a zone named "Residential
Mobile Home Park". The permitted and conditional uses are
stated so as to allow for mobile homes and be compatible
with the kinds of uses that are permitted in the R-6 zone.
Section 3 provides for area and bulk requirements. The
minimum lot area per dwelling unit is 3000 square feet as
opposed to 6000 square feet in R-6. Hunt asked if this is
consistent with what exists there now. Vrchota said it
is close, there could be some requirement for a few trailers
to be relocated.or exist in nonconformance. She noted that
they could not zone any single piece of property MHP.
Hedstrom opened and closed the public hearing.
Vrchota noted that the 20' setback recommended did not
comply with the existing situation at Smuggler. She noted
this setback is primarily for fire and utility access. She
recommended reducing this setback. Pardee questioned if
they wish this smaller setback for future situations. Smith
noted the requirement in the County is 15,000 square feet
per mobile home but this is for rural areas and this propo-
sal is for an urban area. Pardee preferred to accept that
they would be creating nonconforming structures and set
the requirements for what they wish for the future. Smith
noted that if any trailer were removed, the next would have
to conform with the setbacks, etc. Smith suggested tabling
this issue to a special meeting.
Linda Cherry, President of the Homeowners' Association at
Smuggler, noted that her parents live in a trailer park ,in
California where the setback is 5' including the hitch.
She said it is a very nice park and the setbacks work. She
did not feel the 20' setback as proposed was reasonable.
Hunt moved to table action on the adoption of zoning of the
Smuggler enclave and all matters pertaining thereto and
continue the public hearing to 5:00 PM, Thursday, August
23, 1979, McDonnell seconded. All in favor, motion ap-
proved.
The Commission reconsidered the advantages of having alter-
nate members to the P&Z. The consensus was alternates were
not necessary.
Hunt moved to have the Planning Office prepare for the
Planning and Zoning Commission a resolution to City Council
explaining the reasons we feel that an alternate member to
the Planning and Zoning Commission is not necessary: 1) it
does not appear necessary to add one or two more discussing
parties to further prolong the discussions as all points
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Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
August 21, 1979
l4iller
Subdivision
Exemption
Sierra vista
Joint Venture
Subdivision
Exemption
seem to be adequately brought up and covered by the seven
members already, 2) from any history that we can determine,
in the last six years, there has been one case where there
was not a quorum and that was due to two of the members
becoming elected to the City Council and therefore, there
was an unusual vacancy, Pardee seconded. All in favor,
motion approved.
Grice introduced the application. The applicants wish to
split off two 3000 square foot lots from five total lots.
A single family house exists on the three lot parcel and the
other two would be available for single family development.
This application qualifies for an exemption from the Growth
Management Quota System. The Engineering Department rec-
ommends approval subject to a sidewalk improvement agree-
ment being signed by the City of Aspen. The City Attorney
recommends approval. The Planning Office recommends ap-
proval subject to the preparation and recording of a sub-
division exemption agreement which would include a commit-
ment to a sidewalk improvement and a restriction that
development of Lots P & Q will be limited to single family
development. Hunt noted that the zone would not allow a
duplex. He also asked what would be done with the trees
that would have to be cut down if a sidewalk were built.
Grice noted that the Engineering Department inspects the
property and the placement of the sidewalk.
Hunt moved to recommend exemption from strict application
of subdivision regulations for the Miller Subdivision of
Lots M-Q, Block 35, Original Townsite.of Aspen,aonditioned
upon the applicant ente:ringinto a,sidewalklltlprovement
agreement for all parcels if a district is created, inasmuch
as the application meets the criteria for exemption and
there are no significant impacts on land use or detriments
to the public good, Harvey seconded. All in favor, motion
approved.
Perry Harvey stepped down for this application.
Grice introduced the application. The applicant requests
subdivision exemption for condominiumization. There is
an existing single family unit and a proposed second unit.
The Engineering Department has recommended approval subject
to two conditions: 1) the property owner agree to join a
curb, gutter and sidewalk improvement district, 2) the
parking problem be addressed in accordance with the code.
The City Attorney questions if this property has ever fallen
within the low, moderate or middle income price bracket.
The present unit, 3,000+ square feet, has been rented to
the Windemullers for $l,OOO/month plus utilities, which
comes to .33/square foot. The Planning Office defers to the
p&Z judgment on this matter.
Bob Hughes, representing the applicant, did not feel the
unit fell in the guidelines. He explained that when the
Hopkins moved temporarily to Utah to pursue a business
opportunity, they rented their place to the Windemullers
for $l,OOO/month with the understanding that if they re-
turned, they would reassume the unit. The opportunity
was successful and the Windemullers bought the unit. He"
felt that this rental period could be considered,housesit-
ting. He noted that this rental price was above'the ceiling
for the price guidelines. The Board discussed this issue
and decided they did not feel it fell in the guidelines.
Hunt moved to determine that the Sierra Vista Joint Venture
property has not been part of the employee housing supply
based on the history of its rent and rental activity,
McDonnell seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
August 21, 1979
Regular Meeting
Hyman Street Duplex
Subdivision
Exception
Resolution 79-13,
Recommending
Approval of
Tipple Lodge
Condominiumization
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
Hunt moved to recommend exemption from strict application
of the subdivision regulations for the Sierra Vista Joint
Venture condominiumization of a duplex on Lot 31, West
Aspen Subdivision #1. It has been determined that the
dwelling is not part of the employee housing supply, and
this approval is conditioned upon, 1) property comes under
Municipal Code Section 20-22, six month minimum lease and
is so deed restricted, 2) provided that one adequate parkin~
space per bedroom is supplied, 3) provided the applicant
enters into a sidewalk, curb and gutter agreement if a
district is created. Otherwise, there are no significant
adverse impacts on land use or detriments to the public
good, Pardee seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
Harvey stepped up to his position on the commission.
Vrchota introduced the application. She stated the appli-
cant wishes to split five lots into two parcels, necessi-
tating a redrawing of lot lines. The Engineering Depart-
ment requests a plat for the subdivision. There is an
existing house on one lot and a duplex being constructed on
the other lot. There is a request that the'.duplex be
condominiumized with this application. This is exempt from
the Growth Management Plan. Engineering has recommended
approval with the condition that the shed not be divided
by the lot line but instead be moved. The applicant wishes
to move it to the single family lot. The City Attorney
recommends approval with the six month minimum lease re-
striction. Vrchota noted that the P&Z did approve by
special review an employee unit in the basement of the
duplex. There is no rental history of the duplex under
construction. The Planning Office recommends approval
subject to the six month minimum lease restriction on the
duplex.
Hunt moved to recommend exception of the Hyman Street Duple~
condominiumization from full subdivisionregulationre..
entering the procedures with final plat to the City Council
and recommend approval of conceptual subdivision conditioned
on 1) the property comes under the Aspen Municipal Code
Section 20-22 which is the six month minimum lease and is
so deed restricted applying to all dwelling units, 2) that
the shed is moved from the property line prior to certifi-
cate of occupancy of the new dwelling. Otherwise, there are
no significant adverse impacts on land use or detriments to
the public good, McDonnell seconded. All in favor, motion
approved.
Hunt moved to allow condominiumization of the new duplex
placed on the subdivision of Lots CDEF&G of Block 61, Aspen,
provided that that duplex comes under the Aspen Municipal
Code Section 20-22 which is the six month minimum lease and
is so deed restricted, Klar seconded. All in favor, motion
approved.
Klar noted that she had dinner in one of the units the night
before and it did have a kitchen. She was very concerned
about this and was not in favor of voting for the condomini-
umization. Hunt was concerned that it did not state in the
covenants that it must be managed by one entity. He was not
in favor of the resolution. He felt it would have negative
impacts on the supply of tourist accommodations. He also
felt it was a bad precedent to set and felt they should
state that they were not in favor of condominiumization of
lodges. Hedstrom asked the commission to look away from
this application in particular and consider the broader
aspects of this type of condominiumization. He agreed it
was a dangerous precedent and was not in favor of any type
of lodge condominiumization. Harvey agreed with this. He
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Regular Meeting
August 21, 1979
"Commissionmember
Comments" added to
Agendas
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
was in favor of finding an avenue for the remodeling and
upgrading of lodge facilities. Hedstrom felt the P&Z should
take a more positive role in making suggestions and propo-
sals to City Council in areas in which they are experienced.
Pardee agreed and felt they should find vehicles to enforce
their recommendations.
Hedstrom asked that they create a committee to work on this
problem. He asked that Harvey chair this committee. Klar
asked if they were in favor of including various agencies
and groups involved with this problem. Hunt agreed to work
with Harvey. Klar volunteered also.
Hunt moved to have the Planning Office draft a resolution
denying the Tipple Lodge for condominiumization for the
following reasons: 1) the application opens possibilities
for reducing the supply of tourist accommodations, 2) it
further opens the possibilities for abuse of the units due
to disintegrated ownership such as illegal kitchen units,
3) it reduces the lodge aspects of a particular lodge in
that it also disintegrates the management so that a lodge
no longer has one site for booking, maintenance of the
physical facilities and that reduces the benefits to the
tourists in the lodge, 4) if condominiumized, there is no
restriction that can guarantee avoidance of these dangers,
5) the disintegration of ownership has adverse land use
consequences, 6) to allow this to happen puts adverse
pressures on other districts of the community to supply
tourist lodging, however, it should be known that the P&Z
is forming a committee to find ways to improve the lodging
facilities, Pardee seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
Pardee suggested adding an item called "Commissionmember
Comments" to the agenda for discussion of ideas, problems,
etc. The Board was in favor of this suggestion. The
Planning Office agreed to add this item under "Approval of
Minutes" to all agendas hereafter.
Klar moved to adjourn the meeting, Pardee seconded. All
in favor, motion approved. Meeting adjourned at 7:00 PM.
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Sheryl en, Deputy City Clerk
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