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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
August 7, 1979
Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
The Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission held a regular meeting on August 7, 1979,
at 5:00 PM in the City Council Chambers. Members present were Olof Hedstrom,
Welton Anderson, Lee Pardee, Joan Klar, Nancy McDonnell and Roger Hunt. Also
present were Karen Smith,' Richard Grice and Jolene Vrchota of the Planning Office,
City Attorney Ronald Stock and City Housing Director Jim Reents.
Approval of Minutes
Water Plant, ,Low,
MOderate, Middle
Income Housing
Project, SPA Zoning,
SPA Plan Approval,
Special Review for
Employee Housing,
8040 Greenline,
Subdivision
Exemption
Celia Marolt
SPA Zoning Motion
Hunt moved to approve the minutes of July 10, 1979, as
amended, Anderson seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
Reents introduced the items. He noted the City Council has
annexed, by emergency ordinance, the site for this housing
and has recommended to P&Z the SPA zoning. The parcel is
581 acres. The City annexed a 10' strip followed by two
other annexations to bring this property into the City.
The County has requested that the ten foot strip be zoned
R-15 which is compatible with their potential employee
housing project adjacent to this property. The Planning
Office has recommended SPA for the rest of the parcel.
He showed on a map the existing Water Plant and the site
of the proposed housing.
Hedstrom opened the public hearing on zoning this property
SPA.
Stock noted that
parcels annexed.
map.
this zoning is to cover all three of the
He showed the property in question on a
Mrs. Marolt owns a parcel of property across the street
from this site. She asked if it were true that the County
wishes the City to annex the hospital. Stock said no.
She asked how her property could be annexed. Stock ex-
plained the procedure and noted that she would have the
right to petition for annexation with this property being
annexed across the street.
Hedstrom closed the public hearing.
Anderson moved to recommend adoption of SPA zoning desig-
nation for the 63 acres owned by the City and R-15 for
the additional lands owned by the County, which property
is known as the Water Plant property, annexations 1, 2 and
3, Hunt seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
Reents stated that they do not have an SPA plan for the
remainder of the parcel, which would show on this SPA as
future potential housing sites. This site has been con-
sidered for employee housing since 1972, Council made a
commitment to pursue the development in January of 1979.
With the aid of Design Workshop and a housing marketing
study by Sno-Engineering, they developed the sizing of the
project. There are 80 units, 8 buildings, 10 units per
building, 3 studios and two one bedrooms on one side,
four two bedrooms and one three bedroom on the other. Off
street parking is provided above the required with access
to Castle Creek Road to the north. Orientation of the
buildings is mostly to the north, northeast or northwest.
Maximum height of the buildings to the peak is 26'. There
is additional storage and a laundry facility in each build-
ing.
Pardee felt this would be very visible from Castle Creek
Road. Reents said there was a large screen of cottonwoods
between the units and the road that will remain. The
building area is covered with second growth Aspen and oak-
brush. Higher on the slope is mature Aspens which will
remain. He showed on a drawing the row of cottonwoods
which have one break where the buildings are visible. He
noted that fill from the construction will be used for
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August 7, 1979
berms. He said it was impossible to hide the entire pro-
ject. He also noted that there is a possibility of having
the City Parks and Recreation Department do some additional
landscaping. City will retain ownership of the property
but the structures will be owned by the developer. Any
additional cost for landscaping would be reflected in the
bond issue and the rental rates. Hunt noted there was
no plan on the water plant. Reents stated that the Engin-
eering Department was presently working on that plat and
they would see it later.
Hedstrom opened the public hearing on the proposed SPA plan.
Celia Marolt
Marolt asked the precise location of the proposed develop-
ment, especially in relation to her house across the street.
Reents showed her the location on the map. He noted that
the access would be the same road that presently accesses
the water plant.
Hedstrom closed the public hearing.
Klar asked the density on the balance of the land. Reents
said there has been no density designated. The only area
with the density designated is the area for development
with 16 units per acre. Stock added they are approving
the public area for the existing water plant site. He
suggested the back parcel be designated open space with
parenthesis to be developed later. McDonnell asked the
parking ratio for Midland/Park. She felt the ratio for
this development, 1.6/unit, was low. Reents said this was
above required code, which requires one per bedroom, this
is 1.2 per bedroom. Pardee said there are 108 bedrooms
and 128 parking spaces. County Manager George Ochs was
present and noted that they provided 1 space per unit with
more for the three bedroom at Midland/Park which was not
enough.
Pardee was concerned with the size of the project and the
amount of time allotted to the P&Z for review. Stock sug-
gested a special meeting before the Council meeting on
August 13. Reents said the only other additional informa-
tion they would have at that time would be the boundary
lines for the water filtration plant and the location of
those existing structures. Hunt asked the remaining acre-
age outside the proposed development. Reents said approxi-
mately 43 acres.
Hedstrom felt they should have one full meeting for this
project because of the number of questions and concerns.
Celia Marolt asked how this would be maintained over the
years. She was concerned that it would become rundown.
Stock said they have found that governments cannot manage
this type of housing as well as private industry. They
want private industry to design, build, manage and operate
the facility with the City's restrictions. He noted these
would all be rental units. Stock said the land lease would
restrict who may rent, rental rates and their inflation
rate. The lease will be 32 years with an 8 year option and
then it will revert to the City at the value of the proper-
ty. One of the commitments in the bond documents is the
commitment to maintain and to invest certain funds. The
bond company is requiring that they put aside $300,000 in
a fund for the maintenance of the facility to be replen-
ished when used. He said there would be first priority
given to City employees. The second priority would probably
be for County, Aspen Metro Sanitation District, Aspen
Valley Hospital and School District employees.
Pardee was concerned with the ability of the various City
departments to sufficiently review this project within the
timeline. He felt things would "drop through the cracks".
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He questioned whether they could get it in the ground this
year. Stock felt they have a good chance to start this
year. Pardee felt they would have 50% efficiency working
through the winter. He felt they should shoot for this
Spring. Reents said the builder said he could save between
10-15% by constructing through the winter. He said with
a $4 millon project, that is a large factor. Klar under-
stood the time and money factors but was concerned with
the details in planning. Pardee said one factor he saw
was the buildings are all north facing which will raise
the heating costs. McDonnell felt under pressure and was
in favor of a special meeting. Anderson felt under pres-
sure to pass the project but also under pressure to supply
employee housing.
Klar asked about their energy conservation plans. Reents
said this is a north sloping site which eliminates any
solar possibilities. It is also in the shadow of Shadow
Mountain in the winter.
Hunt moved to continue this meeting to a special meeting
at 12 Noon on Thursday to consider all aspects of the
Water Plant Housing Plans, Anderson seconded. All in favor,
motion approved.
Hildur Anderson,
Preliminary Plat
Vrchota introduced the application. Ms. Anderson wishes
to separate 6000 square feet from her property. Vrchota
solicited comments from several utility agencies with no
negative results. She noted there have been negotiations
between the City Attorney and the applicant's attorney for
the sale of a parcel of this property to the City. She
noted most of the concerns of the City Engineer have been
resolved which was a condition of approval at the concep-
tual stage. One of the main concerns is the trail easement
which Vrchota and Lou Buettner walked. They found that,
while there is a generous 20' easement proposed, a good
deal of it is under water. There are also a number of
cottonwoods and spruces in the easement which Hildur has
asked not be removed. Vrchota suggested possible reloca-
tion of these trees. She said Brian Stafford demanded
that they require a workable trail alignment. If the
City buys the property, they could work the alignment where
needed.
Jeffrey Sachs, representing the applicant, noted this is
a PUD overlay and said the applicant could relocate the
existing house anywhere on the site. He said it has been
a quasi-pUblic park for years since Hildur does not object
to people walking along the river on her property. He
agreed that they would need from 25-30' of easement to not
disturb the vegetation. He felt the solution is to make
part of the land a public park and have Hildur put a duplex
in the corner of the lot with the single family house on
the remaining parcel. He felt strict application of the
ordinance is unfair based on the circumstances. He hopes
that the City accepts the offer to make the one parcel a
City park. He asked that the P&Z not require that this
easement be dedicated and let the negotiations continue
between the City and Hildur for the park. Anderson noted
that Hildur would only be giving an easement, the land
would still be hers. Sachs agreed but felt it would be
a deterrant to the developable value of this riverfront
property. Hunt asked why the duplex was not plotted.
Sachs said because they are still negotiating with the City.
Stock noted there is nO guarantee the City will purchase
the remaining property. He said if the P&Z requires a
dedication, it must be a workable dedication. He suggested
taking a portion of the easement as part of the park
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County Corral,
Conditional Use
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dedication fee and exempt it from further park dedication
fees. Hunt said if the duplex lot were platted, they
could require a trail easement on the new developed pro-
perty and forget the remainder of the property until it
was developed. Sachs preferred the P&Z approve the plat
without the easement; they would then present the plat
to Council with the offer to purchase the land. If Council
agrees, there would be a plat for the 9,000 square foot
duplex and an easement of necessary width. The City could
then plan the easement on their land.
Hedstrom opened the public hearing. There were no
comments. Hedstrom closed the public hearing.
Klar asked if there is a priority list for land acquisi-
tion. Stock said there is an open space priority list
that hasn't considered this property. Hunt suggested
they not consider the easement at this point but specify
that should there be any intersection of the subdivision
going to the river, they should then address the easement.
Vrchota noted this is an important link in the trail from
the Aspen Club to Highway 82.
Hunt moved to recommend Preliminary Plat approval of the
Hildur Anderson Subdivision with the following conditions:
1) approval of the final plat by the City Engineer,
2) park dedication fee on the smaller lot be paid,
3) park dedication fee on the larger lot will be waived
but a note will be written at the time of issuance of the
building permit such that the fee will be considered in
the event of the sale to the City or collected by a
specified date if the sale does not occur; the fee will
be calculated on increased density from a single family
to duplex units, 4) the historical society determines
historical significance of the old dwelling prior to any
proposed demolition, 5) occupancy of the existing dwelling
by the present resident be allowed up to 60 days after
certificate of occupancy is issued for the new dwelling,
6) dedication of a usable trail easement recognizing the
possible sale to the City and ensuing possibility of
waiving this requirement, Anderson seconded. All in
favor, motion approved.
Smith introduced the application. This is an public
hearing to consider a conditional use application for
additional equestrian uses at the County Corral. In 1975,
-the P&Z approved a use determination to allow equestrian
uses in this location. This application comes from the
County to ask for an expansion of this conditional use.
The Colorado Taxi Company wishes to use two of" the
stalls for their horses and the grounds for no more than
two surreys at one time. She noted this is a public zone
and they are recommending this use on the basis that the
taxi company is a public use.
Hedstrom opened the public hearing. There were no com~
ments. Hedstrom closed the public hearing.
Pardee asked how much use the stables get now. County
Manager George Ochs said they do not get much use. The
applicant has been using the facility on and off. Klar
asked about some letters written to the editor after the
conditional use was granted in 1975. Ochs said there was
an application for a sleigh team to use this facility.
The applicant did not live up to the agreements, there
were many complaints and the appliqant WaS not allowed to
continue the use. Smith recalled that many of the com-
plaints were regarding the treatment of the animals as
opposed to the conditions in the neighborhood.
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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
August 7, 1979
Regular Meeting
Yarbrough
8040 Greenline
Review
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
Hedstrom felt there were two questions: the use of public
property in a public zone by a private company and the
desirability of the possible affect on the neighborhood.
Pardee felt the third question is the loss of use of a
structure that was built with public funds for the public.
He suggested letting the taxi company use the stables in
the winter when it is necessary to be near town. Ochs
noted they are using two of the four stalls, two horses in
one stall and one horse and the tack in the other. Hunt
asked if the public would be getting some income from the
use. Ochs said they would pay $50/month.
Hunt moved to determine the use of the County Stable facili-
ties by a horse-driven taxi company within the original
conditional use provided that: 1) the stalls be cleared
daily of manure and at all times properly maintained to
avoid obnoxious odor, 2) that no maintainance or repair of
the horse-driven vehicles be accomplished on-site, 3) main-
tain the grounds in a sanitary, litterfree state, 4) the
approval be conditioned on a hearing being held sometime
in October of this year to review the extent of compliance
with the stated conditions and with neighborhood impacts,
5) no more than two horse-powered vehicles be parked on the
property, and 6) the horse-driven taxi company occupy no
more than two of the existing stalls, however, are respon-
sible for the service maintenance of all four stalls,
Pardee seconded. All in favor, motion approved.
Smith noted the P&Z attended a site inspection of the
property. She added to her list of conditions that the
applicant comply with the construction techniques and
inspection requirements suggested in the letter of Bob Bash
from Lincoln Devore Lab dated August 6, 1979. She also
added the trail easement and an escrow for landscaping to
the list of conditions. Klar asked if the adjacent property
owners were aware of the fire access problem. Smith noted
some of the adjacent properties were put through the same
review. There is no notice requirement for this type of
application. The Fire Marshal has suggested several modi-
fications that will make firefighting easier which the
applicant has agreed to comply with. McDonnell asked who
would check to be sure these requirements, such as the fire
cabinet with fire fighting equipment, would be maintained
after the approval. Smith said the Fire Marshal makes the
inspections. Pardee asked about the liability on the ease-
ment. Stock said the liability on the improved trail would
lie with the City.
Pardee moved to approve the Yarbrough 8040 Greenline Review
subject to the following: 1) the conditions recommended
by the Fire Marshal that a 2" standpipe be installed between
Yarbrough's property and Galena Street as a supplement to
the existing fire hydrant on the property immediately to
the South; hose and other necessary fire equipment to be
stored in a cabinet adjacent to the property, 2) a covenant
of indemnity be implemented to absolve the City from any
responsibility in the case of fire, 3) a trail easement be
reserved along the existing trail alignment the width of
which to be determined by the City Engineer, 4) pursuant to
the recommendation of the Aspen Water Department, water
hookup is made on the 6" main supplying the Blitz residence,
5) that there be an escrow placed in reserve for landscaping
specifically for the replacement of dead trees and any
vegetation damaged by construction, 6) the building is con-
structed of fire resistant materials and built to one-hour
standards, 7) the recommendations for construction and in-
spection made in the August 6, 1979, letter of Lincoln
Devore be a condition of approval, McDonnell seconded.
All in favor, motion approved.
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Tipple Inn,
Subdivision
Exemption
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
August 7, 1979
Grice presented an agreement requested by the P&Z which
was drawn up between the City Attorney and the applicant's
attorney. The Planning Office recommends approval subject
to the signing and recording of this document. The agree-
ment restricts owner usage in prime tourist periods to no
more than thirty days, prime tourist periods being July and
August and from Christmas to the end of March. Hedstrom
asked Stock if this agreement accomplished the objectives
stated at the last meeting. Stock said yes.
JD Muller, representing the applicant, noted that they
may run into problems with the SEC(Security Exchange Com-
mission) and they wish to warn that they may not be able
to sign this agreement. Grice stated that if the applicant
cannot sign the agreement, the Planning Office must recom-
mend denial. Hunt said he wanted to see the management
on-site and cover all the units. He felt to allow any
other type of management would disintegrate the rental
activities.
Anderson moved to recommend approval of subdivision exemp-
tion conditioned on the signing and recording of the agree-
ment and protective covenants between John L. Faulkner,
Mary I. Faulkner and the City of Aspen, whereas, the City
desires that all lodge units in Aspen remain without kit-
chens and remain in use as temporary accommodations and
more specifically that lodge units in Aspen not be conver-
ted to residential dwelling units without review and
approval pursuant to the Growth Management Plan contained
in the Municipal Code of the City of Aspen. Further, the
City desires that all existing lodge units be made avail-
able to the general public as short term accommodations
during the winter and summer tourist seasons in the City
of Aspen with reasonable short occupancy by owners at
reasonable rates during said seasons, and whereas the city
may realize the benefit from the upgrading of individual
lodge units made possible by individual ownership,
McDonnell seconded.
Hunt said he could not vote in favor of the motion because
it does not require on-site management or some provision
for one rental entity. Pardee felt there should be a
"smiling face" at the front desk to greet the tourists and
give them keys, information, assistance, etc.
Roll call vote: Anderson, nay; Pardee, nay; Klar, nay;
McDonnell, aye; Hunt, nay; Hedstrom, aye. Motion defeated.
Pardee reiterated his concern for an on-site employee.
Faulkner noted that there is not an on-site employee pres-
ently. They run it through the Fasching Haus with a tele-
phone at the Tipple that summons the employee with the
keys, etc. Klar suggested continuing the current manage-
ment setup. Pardee was concerned with the dangerous
precedent they were setting.
Stock noted that in a similar application now pending
before the P&Z, the applicant has provided one unit for the
manager to be maintained in the COmmon area of the building.
Anderson moved to recommend approval of subdivision exemp-
tion for the Tipple Lodge conditioned on signing and re-
cording of the agreement and restrictive covenants between
John and Mary Faulkner and the City of Aspen and also con-
ditional on a manager or custodial person being available
24 hours a day to handle all functions except renting the
rooms maintained at the present location, whereas, the City
desires that all lodge units in Aspen remain without kit-
chens and remain in use as temporary accommodations and
more specifically that lodge units in Aspen not be conver-
ted to residential dwelling units without review and
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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
August 7, 1979
Regular Meeting
Resolution #79-12,
Recommending
Amendments to
S/C/I Zone
Aspen Planning and Zoning Commission
approval pursuant to the Growth Management Plan contained
in the Municipal Code of the City of Aspen. Further, the
City desires that all existing lodge units be made avail-
able to the general public as short term accommodations
during the winter and summer tourist seasons in the City
of Aspen with reasonable short occupancy by owners at
reasonable rates during said seasons, and whereas the city
may realize the benefit from the upgrading of individual
lodge units made possible by individual ownership, Pardee
seconded. Roll caLl vote: Anderson, nay; Pardee, aye;
Klar, aye; McDonnell, nay; Hunt, nay; Hedstrom, aye. Motion
defeated.
Hunt moved to recommend to City Council the exemption of
subdivision regulation for: the Tipple Lodge provided that
1) the agreement and restrictive covenant is adopted as
well, and only as well, as a requirement to require all
functions of the lodge to be handled by one entity, perhaps
one management activity hired by the condominium association
and all those rooms in that complex have to be operated by
the one entity in order to maintain the lodge as an active
lodge and that management activity be within 250 feet of the
premises and any present management conditions may continue
to exist but it must fall within the 250 feet eventually,
Klar seconded.
Hunt withdrew his motion.
Hunt moved to have the Planning Office and the City Attor-
ney's Office come up with a resolution basically along the
lines of this agreement and restrictive covenant but also
including the requirement that on the condominiumization of
a lodge, it is required that all management activities are
handled by one entity which can be hired by the condominium
association within 250 feet of the premises or a reasonable
distance but that any existing services be continued or
increased, Pardee seconded. Roll call vote: Anderson, nay;
Pardee, aye; Klar, aye; McDonnell, aye; Hunt, aye; Hedstrom,
aye. Motion approved.
Klar moved to adopt Resolution 79-12, Anderson seconded.
All in favor, motion approved.
Anderson moved to continue the meeting to August 9, 1979,
Klar seconded. All in favor, motion approved. Meeting
adjourned at 8:30 PM.
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Note: Due to a problem with scheduling, the continued
meeting was held August 10, 1979, at 5:00 PM in the City
Council Chambers.