HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.hpc.19990224ASPEN HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES OF~
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Chairperson Suzannah Reid opened the regular meeting at 5:00 p.m. with
members Roger Moyer, Mary Hirsch, Jeffrey Halferty, Susan Dodington,
Gilbert Sanchez, Lisa Markalunas and Maureen MacDonald present. Heidi
Friedland and Christie Kienast were excused. Staff in attendance were David
Hoefer, Assistant City Attorney, Amy Guthrie, Historic Preservation Officer
and Kathleen Strickland, Chief Deputy City Clerk.
Commissioner comments
Susan asked Staff to check into the spickets that are on the outside of the
Elk' s Building.
Amy Guthrie addressed in a staff sign-off the satellite dish on the Kuhn
project at 303 E. Main.
MOTION: Gilbert moved to approve the minutes of February 10, 1999;
second by Roger. All in favor, motion carried.
Jeffrey was seated at 5:10
920 E. HYMAN AVENUE - FINAL DEVELOPMENT
Roger Kerr was sworn in.
Five exhibits were entered into the record for this project.
Amy conveyed to the board that 19 conditions are recommended for final
approval and they are listed in the memo.
Roger Kerr was amenable to everything but wanted to discuss the deck/roof
and whether or not it should be constructed. He is proposing a snowmelted
deck for drainage. Baseboard heat is proposed and the snowmelt could be
incorporated in one of the zones. If the little roof is added snow will be
collecting on the north side that will not melt off. He still feels a better
drainage system could occur if the deck is done to the ridge.
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If the roof is put back seven feet remain for the deck. If the roof is not put
back 11 ½ of floor space is available. The snowmelt system would have a
sensor to activate the melting system.
Susan suggested a gutter.
Suzannah reminded the applicant to address the energy code calculations.
Jeffrey recommended that the interior drainage system not be routed toward
the historic house. It is a difficult condition because it is on the north side.
The applicant agreed to Jeffrey's recommendation.
Maureen was seated at 5:13 and did not vote on 920 E. Hyman.
Amy conveyed that you cannot walk down either side of the building as there
is so little yard on either side. The concern to the Board is the drainage
problems and they must be addressed correctly so that the historic house is
not damaged by water leakage.
Gilbert informed the Board that he feels proper drainage could be achieved
with the proper membrane roofing and if it is detailed properly. The applicant
prefers the larger deck and he would delete #4 condition. Mary, Lisa,
Maureen, Roger and Jeffrey agreed to leave the deck to the ridge line.
Suzannah suggested a modification that the deck not go all the way to the
ridge. She is concerned what the ridge detail will look like from the front side
with the vertical wall on the back. Maybe come down 12 inches offthe ridge
and then to the vertical wall. In that way a consistent ridge detail will be
retained.
MOTION: Gilbert moved to grant final development for 920 E. Hyman
Avenue with the conditions outlined in Resolution/¢5, 1999. The following
conditions were approve in the Feb. l0th memo.
1) The front porch roof and fascia may be rebuilt, with the exact
configuration to be reviewed and approved by HPC staff and monitor,
after further research on the original design of the porch. The existing
porch posts and rail may be removed, with new porch posts and any trim
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to be reviewed and approved by HPC' staff and monitor. The post and
bracket are approved as submitted on exhibit 4 and 5. A porch railing
cannot be installed because there is not historical basis for it.
2) The existing windows on the south fagade of the house may not be
replaced.
3) The existing front door on the south fagade of the house may be replaced,
with the new door to be reviewed and approved by HPC staff and
monitor.
4) The new deck over the north facing roof slope of the historic cottage shall
be detailed to provide a roof ridge consisted in appearance from the
street.
5) Any further amendments' to the lan&cape plan as approved by HPC will
require review and approval by HPC staff and monitor.
6) A five foot rear yard setback variance has been granted.
7) New windows may be installed on the east and west sides of the old
house, based on physical evidence of original window locations such as
cuts' in clapboards', framing, or photographs, to be approved by HPC
staff and monitor.
8) Investigate the framing to determine whether one of the two original front
doors (the one that would have faced E. Hyman Ave.) has been filled in.
If so, it must be recreated, with the character and placement of the door
to be reviewed and approved by staff and monitor.
9) The storage and trash areas at the rear of the site are not historic
structures and are to be demolished.
10)The applicant must work with the Engineering Department to move the
utility pedestals' currently in the alley onto private property.
11) The gravel parking space in front of the house must be removed and all
parking shall be accessed from the alley.
12)Submit a demolition plan, as part of the building permit plan set,
indicating exactly what areas of the historic house are to be removed as
part of the renovation.
13)Submit a preservation plan, as part of the building permit plan set,
indicating how the existing materials', which are to be retained, will be
restored. The requirement is to retain/repair all original materials' and
replicate only those that are determined by HPC staff and monitor to be
beyond salvage.
14)No elements' are to be added to the historic house that did not previously
exist. No existing exterior materials' other than what has been
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specifically approved herein may be removed without the approval of
staff and monitor.
15) HPC staff and monitor must approve the type and location of all exterior
lighting fixtures.
16) There shall be no deviations from the exterior elevations as approved
without first being reviewed and approved by HPC staff and monitor.
17) The preservation plan described above, as well as the language of
certain conditions of approval will be required to be printed on the cover
sheet of the building permit plan set and all other prints made for the
purpose of construction.
18) The applicant shall be required to provide the contractor with copies of
the HPC resolution applicable to this project. The contractor must
submit a letter addressed to HPC staff as part of the building permit
application indicating that all conditions of approval are known and
understood and must meet with the Historic Preservation Officer prior to
applying for the building permit.
19)AIl representations made by the applicant in the application and during
public meetings with the Historic Preservation commission shall be
adhered to and considered conditions of approval, unless otherwise
amended by other conditions.
Motion second by Roger, motion carried 6-1.
Yes votes: Suzannah, Roger, Mary, defJhey, Gilbert and Lisa.
No vote: Susan
735 W. BLEEKER - UNIT B (New House) - FINAL DEVELOPMENT
Maureen voted.
Lisa did not vote.
Amy informed the board that the project is on the comer of Bleeker and 7th
Street. The historic house will be picked up and moved slightly forward.
There is a completely detached new house being built in the back. They
received conceptual approval from HPC and conditional use approval from
P&Z to do two detached houses on the site. Landmark designation and
variances were also granted.
Final tonight is just on the new house. There was a different owner when
conceptual was granted. The owner is currently living in the old house and
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wants to do the new house first. Action needs taken on part of the partial
demolition in order for the new house to fit on the site. Later the remodel will
be presented on the historic building. There is also a new architect involved
in the project and Staff made a determination that their proposal for final was
not a significant departure from what was approved conceptually and that a
new review was not required. Staff recommends approval with conditions
outlined on page 3 of of the Feb. 24th memo. On the street facing west side of
the house Staff felt that the detailing is starting to get confusing as to whether
the building is historic or not in particular the leaded glass in the front door
and the window on the second floor that has a bay with a mansard roof and
detailing. Staff is recommending a redesign of those elements.
Sworn in was Randall Bone, owner of the property.
Randall informed the Board that he is working on understanding the HPC
process and designing the new house. The roof heights overall were lowered
one foot from conceptual. Architectural elements were brought into the
project that were compatible and supportive of the local context but
differentiated the unit from the historic structure. Elements were added on
every elevation for compatibility. On the west wainscoting was added. The
chimney detail was added and the angular cut shingles. On the north the
design of the doors and window configuration was redesigned. On the east
the bay design and vertical siding was added. On the south the design of the
doors was changed and the chimney caps. The porch was also eliminated.
The non-historic portion of the existing house will be removed. There will be
a remodel presented at a later date on the historic house.
Members asked what trees will be removed when the historic house is pushed
forward. The Parks Dept. gave preliminary approval for the removal of the
cottonwood that is located in the back driveway. All the large spruce trees
will be protected. The owner hopes to move the crabapple trees on-site.
Jeffrey's concern is when the house is relocated the applicant needs to make
sure the house is moved far enough away from the foundation due to the
tremendous root bases under both spruce trees. The spruce trees are 120
years old.
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Members had concern with the top of the chimney detail, the diamond
element. The cap comes out farther than the chimney and the drawings do
not reflect that. The west faCade, %treet faCade" should be compatible. The
house echoes the historic elements. The front door should be looked at to be
more craftsman rather than Victorian. It was also suggested that the brackets
should be removed from the bay window as they are a Victorian element.
Some members felt that the bay window on recommendation #2 should be
removed.
MOTION: Roger moved to grant final development for the new house only
Unit B at 735 W. Bleeker, resolution/¢6 with the following conditions:
1) Unit A must receive final HPC approval by October 14, 1999 or the
applicant must request an extension of conceptual approval.
2) Redesign the front door and upper floor window on the west facade of
Unit B to be less replicative of the historic structure. Cleaner lines
(brackets' underneath,) on the upper window to be approved by Staff and
Monitor.
3) Contact the Parks' Department to obtain any tree removal permits needed.
4) A west sideyard setback variance of l '8 ", a rear yard setback variance of
5' and a combined front and rear setback variance of 5" have been granted.
5) Submit a partial demolition plan to HPC indicating which portions of
areas approved for demolition on the historic house will be demolished prior
to construction of Unit B.
6) HPC staff and monitor must approve the type and location of all exterior
lighting fixtures.
7) There shall be no deviations from the exterior elevations as approved
without first being reviewed and approved by HPC staff and monitor.
8) The applicant shall be required to provide the contractor with copies of
the HPC and P&Z resolutions applicable to this project. The contractor
must submit a letter addressed to HPC staff as part of the building permit
application indicating that all conditions of approval are knows and
understood and must meet with the Historic Preservation Officer prior to
applying for the building permit.
9) All representations made by the applicant in the application and during
public meetings with the Historic Preservation Commission shall be adhered
to and considered conditions of approval, unless otherwise amended by
other conditions.
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The project complies with the conditions set for on the criteria sheet,
standard one, t~o, three, four on Exhibit III. Motion second by Mary. All in
favor, motion carried 7-0.
kOTE: Suzannah, Roger, Mary, Susan, Gilbert, defJhey, Maureen
330 LAKE AVENUE - WORKSESSION - No minutes
234 W. FRANCIS STREET - Remediation Plan
David Hoefer, Assistant City Attorney conveyed to the Board the stipulated
findings of fact and order. There was a great deal of cooperation with the
Mullins working with the City Manager, Amy Margerum; City Attorney, John
Worcester; Stephen Kanipe, Chief Building Official and Assistant City
Attorney. The parties have agreed and it is a reasonable and fair settlement.
The Mullins have agreed to pay the City costs in the agreement. Part of the
money will be used for plaques on our historic houses throughout town and
the balance will be used to put together a specialty license for contractors that
work on historic houses. Scott Lindeneau will submit weekly reports to Amy
Guthrie of the plan and action progress with the restoration. The stipulation
does not address issues regarding the contractor.
Five remedial issues were addressed.
Scott relayed that their desire is to address all the issues by the 10th of March.
The issues that effect the interior of the project are being addressed tonight.
Regarding the venting of the fireplaces the two options are to go directly off
the side of the house which is what is there now or go up through the roof.
Elevations were submitted to the HPC. Two fireplace vents come up from
the livingroom and master bedroom. There are also two bathroom vents on
the west elevation that are five inches square and they protrude from the
house about 2 ½ inches. They would be painted the same color of the
exterior and they would like to leave them as they are.
The scalloped shape shingles will be removed from the exterior of the
kitchen.
On the north elevation there is a fireplace with a vent that sticks up about four
feet six inches. The placement of that vent is the only place it can go due to
code issues. The proposed material is galvanized metal or they could be
painted out to match the color of the roof.
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Amy clarified the five issues:
1) Fireplace vents.
2) Bathroom vents.
3) Window guides, copper flashing to have patina added.
4) On the east side of the house to the north of the entry porch there was an
historic window and approved window that were not built according to
plans. They will be built according to the plans indicated on the drawings.
5) Scalloped shingles were added to the kitchen addition and will be
removed.
A few of the HPC members felt this incident was setting a precedent.
Gilbert and others on the Board felt that the incident will give the HPC a
stronger hand with future applicants. The remedial work is the best we can
hope for.
The Board members were in favor of the owner retaining Scott Lindeneau.
The board went over the issues and the concerns were with the bathroom
vents and a site-visit is necessary to determine the outcome: Monday 4:30
p.m. at the site.
Members informed the applicants that the historic fence is still sitting in the
snow and has not been covered. Palates were to be placed underneath to
protect it from the elements.
Roger and Susan felt that the house should be painted red because historically
it was always called the "Red House".
Suzannah relayed that the more feedback we get from individuals after each
project helps the Board communicate what they expect and helps the HPC
and applicant move forward. A site-visit is needed to address the vents.
In terms of moving ahead on the five points we need to be very clear about
the dimensions of the pieces.
Mr. Mullin volunteered to work with the HPC regarding the process.
Scott presented the cornice detail material for the front entry as well as the
base around the entry columns.
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Robert S. Ashcraft from Aspen Design works has been contracted to do some
of the wood work. A resume was presented to the Board on Robert's
qualifications and preservation experience. The new siding is the exact size
and dimension.
Suzannah requested that the before and after photographs be laid out and
explained to the Board how the dimensions etc. are being determined.
Amy went over the approvals:
1) The fire place vents as proposed in the drawing submitted 2-24-99.
2) The window guides with the patina added.
3) The correction of the situation with the two windows on the north side of
the building so that the old window goes back in place where it was
supposed to be and the new window is made to match it.
4) The scalloped shingles will come off the kitchen addition and the siding
that was approved be put on.
5) By the end of the day February 25th the fence will be put on some form of
platform to get it off the ground.
6) Stephen Kanipe requested a detail of the fireplace vents through the roof
to make sure they meet the minimum heigh for the mechanical code. He
also requested a detail of the connection etc. to be perfectly clear.
7) The issue of the bathroom vents will be addressed at the site-visit
Monday.
The next hearing will be March 10th when the Board will get into the body of
the rest of the issues.
The Board had no problem with Robert Ashcraft being retained to replicate
some of the wood work.
Roger brought up the issue of the type of wood being used in the replication
and does the HPC want to specify what type of wood should be used.
Robert explained the different types of wood that will be used.
The Board was split on this particular issue and will address it at the next
meeting.
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The meeting ended at 7:30 p.m.
Kathleen J. Strickland, Chief Deputy Clerk
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920 E. HYMAN AVENUE - FINAL DEVELOPMENT ....................................................................... 1
735 W. BLEEKER - UNIT B (NEW HOUSE) - FINAL DEVELOPMENT ........................................ 4
330 LAKE AVENUE - WORKSESSION - NO MINUTES ................................................................. 7
234 W. FRANCIS STREET - REMEDIATION PLAN ........................................................................ 7
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