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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
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FORM 10 C.f.HOECKELB.B.IlL.CO.
Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning and Zoning
August 20, 1974
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Spencer Schiffer at 4:10 p.m. with
Commission members Bryan Johnson, Jack Jenkins, Charles collins, Robert Barnard,
and Janet Landry. City/County Planner John Stanford, Yank Mojo and City
Attorney Sandra Stuller were also present.
Parking Plan
Old Business
Chairman Schiffer announced that the Parking Plan,
a report submitted by a P & Z subcommittee recommend-
ing modification to the code would be brought up at
the end of the meeting because maps were not available
at that time.
Amendment to
Ordinance 9
An amendment to Ordinance 9 was brought up before the
Commission in resolution form.
Barnard questioned whether the correction was complete
and Schiffer assured him that it was.
Barnard moved to approve the resolution recommending
modification of Section 24-12 (cl of the Municipal
Code. Jenkins seconded. All in favor. Motion carriec
Resolutions & Reports
Resolutions for Chairman Schiffer's signature were
presented by the Planning Department for actions
previousl taken by the Commission. These Resolutions
included a written report on Mountainedge PUD-ODP
and also exemptions from the definition of subdivision
for Jim Ward and Roy Vroom.
Historic Overlay
District Report
Schiffer stated that the report prepared by the
Planning Department expressing the wishes of the
Commission on their recommendations on the Historic
Overlay District was now ready to be forwarded to
Council. Schiffer explained that one member would likl
to change his position. The report would be submitted
as it because it was the result of a formal motion
made by the commission.
Schiffer suggested that a minority report could be
submitted with the report or a study session could be
scheduled with P & Z, Council and H.P.C. present.
Johnson felt the present reflects the action taken
but that a study session could be scheduled.
Jenkins moved to request a study session with City
Council. Johnson seconded. All in favor, Motion
carried.
Chairman Schiffer would like that study session
scheduled after September 1st.
Trail Plan Amendments
The Planning Department was seeking approval by
adoption of additional proposed trails to the present
trail plan. The alignment of trails were in various
parts of the City. The West End Homeowners Associatiol
was present to determine how the proposed Hallam trail
would affect the neighborhood.
John Stanford explained that at this point in time
the type of trail, whether pedestrian or bike had not
been determined. He further explained that Hallam
Street had been selected as the most direct route
between two destination points. he also explained tha"
there was a good deal of school children traffic to be
Trail Plan Amendments
Motion
Main Motion
Main Motion
Stream Margins
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considered as well as a hope that the people who used
Main Street could be diverted to a less dangerous
route. The proposed additions would eventually work
out into a complete intra-City system and planned in
conjunction with proposed County trails.
Members of the West End Howmowners Association express
their personal opinions as to the necessity of the
trail, the right of way, the safety of the school
children, the diversion of traffic from Main to a
residential area, and the selection of Hallam as
opposed to Bleeker or Francis Streets.
They also were concerned over the recalmation of public
right of way for the purpose of a trail as they had
gone to great expense to landscape and maintain this
public right of way.
Barnard felt that people would continue to use those
routes they were now using and would not use that
which was designation. He also had reservations as to
adopting that which no configuaration was given.
Schiffer also felt the same way as Barnard. He did not
want anything to be decided on until they had a few
more facts about the signing, how the trails would
be used on Hallam and just exactly what the plans woulc
be.
Barnard moved to table this matter until such time as
they could see some configurations on this proposed
trail from the Planning and Engineering Departments.
Jenkins seconded.
Janet Landry suggested adopting those trails for
which there was no controversy. John Stanford agreed
that portions of the proposal could be adopted.
Barnard called the question.
Schiffer and Barnard voted aye; Collins, Jenkins,
Landry and Johnson voted nay. Motion not carried.
Johnson moved that we adopt the trail alignment on all
the areas shown except Hallam Street. Motion was
amended to state further that any configuration that
is actually put in would have to come before the
Planning and Zoning Commission for approval before it
is allowed to go in. Landry seconded. All in favor
except Schiffer and Barnard who voted nay. Motion
carried.
Jenkins moved that they table the consideration of the
alignment of Hallam Street until such time as they
could see the proposed trail confiurations. Collins
seconded. All in favor. Motion carried.
Ed Del Duca of the Engineering Department presented
the plans for the proposed pedestrian bridge on the
Roaring Fork River at Hopkins Street. The bridge
would be eight feet wide, would be four feet above the
water at its highest point and would have railing from
three to four feet. The removal of trees would not be
required.
The Commission had no objection to these plans.
Johnson moved to grant the stream margin request.
Barnard seconded, all in favor except Collins who
abstained. Motion carried.
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FORMSII C.F.HOECKELB.B.llL.CO.
Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning & zoning Commission
August 20, 1974
Aspen Institute
request for exemption
from Ord. 19 review
Ms. Ellen Harlan and John Armstrong represented the
Institute in requesting an exemption from Ordinance 19
review for the proposed Building"J"of the Institute's
Master Plan. This building would house 24 bedrooms
and supply housing desperately needed by the Institute.
He explained that the Institute was now paying 150
thousand dollars for housing annually.
Ms. Harlan had been under the impression that theiE
presence before the Commission was only a formality.
The Physics Building, Building "I" had been given
conceptual, preliminary and final approval at a regular
meeting of the P & Z. At the time of the public
hearing by City council for Ordinance 19, the Institute
came forward to ask how Ordinance 19 would affect their
1970 Master plan--Council stated that as the Master
Plan had been presented, they would be exempt from
Ordinance 19. She had also felt that positive
recommendation for exemption from Ordinance 19 had
been given by former Planner Herb Bartel.
Yank Mojo explained that planning would like to see
an overall density plan for the entire Master Plan
and how this building relates to that density.
It was agreed that the Institute property was a
special planned area with regard to zoning but that
plans for desity were pertinent for evaluation.
Collins felt that the changes in the 1970 Master Plan
were substantial enough to warrant Ordinance 19 review.
He felt that the Institute's plans were in a state
of flux and that previously given approvals did not
apply because of these changes.
John Stanford would like to clarify the Planning
Department's recommendation--when the plans for
Building "J"--chalet type housing was received and re-
viewed, were looked at as other buildings that came
in for Ordinance 19 review.
Barnard felt that the commission should not be bound
by previous approvals.
Schiffer agreed that the Institute was a viable
institution but that corners should not be cut.
Barnard moved that exemption from Ordinance 19 review
not be granted the Institute. Jenkins seconded. All
in favor. Motion carried.
City Attorney had recommended to the Institute that
they come before P & Z for exemption. She claried that
this recommendation was made from her recollection of
prior events.
Chairman Schiffer felt that the Master Plan is chang-
ing and that zoning was changing and in that context
the Institute's previous approvals might not be valid
any more.
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Peacock Exemption
Temple Allen Exemption
RBH Building
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Mr. Dallas Peacock was present to request exemption
from Ordinance 19 review. He had previously come
before the Commission on April 16, 1974 to request
exemption and at that time exemption had not been
granted. He proposed an addition to an existing
duplex; the total addition was an additional 900
square feet. His referrals were in order, he had
obtained letters from neighbors on the West end
of town in his favor.
Planning's recommendation was positive as they
had no knowledge of plans contrary to an addition
of a duplex and everything was in order for an
exemption.
Collins and Barnard had reservation as to that
large of an addition to that lot size.
City Attorney Stuller explained that as the code
is written, no position could be taken against
additions as the structure was already a duplex
and allowable in that zone.
Barnard moved that an exemption be granted from
Ordinance 19 review. Johnson seconded. All in favor
except Jenkins and Schiffer who voted nay. Motion
carried.
Plans for the Temple Allen building located on Main
Street & 7th and adjacent to the Hickory House are
for a refurbishing job only. They plan to replace
the asbestos shingles with wood planelling and convert
the old house into an office building.
Planning's recommendation was for conditional approval.
There were no objections to these plans and felt
that refurbishing the eyesore would be a welcome change.
Johnson asked about the parking situation. Schiffer
asked what kind of arrangements had been made for park-
ing.
Parking was available behind the Hickory House with
'access through the alley.
Collins moved that an exemption be granted from
Ordinance 19 conditioned upon the H.P..C designation
of the building and approval of the plans and that
6 parking spaces be provided for use by this building.
Barnard seconded, all in favor. Motion carried.
Jack Walls of the architectural firm of Walls & Sterling
was present to represent the RBH Joint venture in their
plans for an office building on Main Street next to the
County Court House. His request was for a show of
support in the form of a letter to the Board of
Adjustment for a variance requestf~rsetback on the
proposed building. He explained that they had gone
before the H.P.C. and received their support.in their
quest for a setback variance.
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Regular Meeting
August 20, 1974
620 Hyman
Preliminary & Final
Christiana
Preliminary & Final
Aspen Planning & Zoning Commission
A scale modelwas presented for a visual conception of
the building to be located next to the Patio Building on
Hyman.
Planning's comments were that all referrals were in
order, that the gross building size had dropped by 13%
and the gross leaseable space dropped by 23% at the
conceptual stage of Ordinance 19 from the original
that had been rejected to a conceptual design that
had been approved by the Commission at a previous
meeting. Yank Mojo felt that the building was still
in excess of FAR for the present and proposed zoning.
26 parking spaces would be required for thct size of
a building. The Planning did not recommend preliminary
and final approval.
There was some discussion of the calculation of parking
spaces.
The representative from 620 Hyman stated the present
proposed building had been reduced to 69% efficiency
as opposed to the architect's usual goal of 80%. They
were willing to provide the additional parking to
what they could provide on-site.
Barnard moved that preliminary & final approval be given
on the condition that 5 on-site parking spaces and what-
ever additional parking spaces shall be required under
the new proposed zoning code or whichever zoning code is
adopted based on gross leasable floor space. Jenkins
seconded. All in favor except Collins who voted nay.
Motion carried.
Chairman Schiffer had been absent at the prior meeting
on August 6, 1974, he asked for a background on that
meeting which he had been unable to attend. The
Christiana had come before them at that time for
preliminary and final approval but was tabled at that
time due to a discrepancy noted in plans with relation
to buildings surrounding the proposed duplex.
The owner and manager felt that he had explained
the problem created by his architect surriciently and
now awaited their decision on preliminary and final
approval.
The Commission felt they had been misled at the
conceptual stage. Gantzel felt that the problem
had not been created by his doing. Mr. Johnson stated
they had been misled whether intentionally or un-
intentionally.
Johnson moved to rescind conceptual approval based on
an erroneous understanding of what was actually true
and reconsider conceptual. Barnard seconded. All in
favor. Motion carried.
Barnard moved to adjourn the meeting. Jenkins seconded.
All in favor, the meeting was adjourned at 6:25 p.m.
and to be continued August 21 at 12:00 p.m.
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