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Special Meeting
Aspen Planning & Zoning
January 22, 1974
Meeting was called to order by Chairman Bruce Gillis at 5:40 p.m. with Chuck
Vidal, Bryan Johnson, Jack Jenkins, Spence Schiffer, and Geri Vagnuer. Also
present City/County Planner Herb Bartel and Assistant Planners Donna Baer and
John Stanford.
Follow Up on
Vote to Reconsider
Motion on Villa
of Aspen
Chairman Gillis explained to the Commission that the
purpose of this meeting is to follow up the vote to
reconsider the action taken on the Villa of Aspen.
Gillis further explained that the same motion, in the
same wording before the Commission again. Stated the
procedure that should be taken is to have the same
motion, have a second and have discussion.
Commission had no objections.
Vidal made a motion to approve the preliminary sub-
division plan as submitted, as well as the stream
margin, but making the stream margin subject to a
drainage plan submittal and approval at that time.
Motion seconded by Jenkins.
Art Daily, Attorney, was present representing the
Villa pointed out to the Commission that he had been
unable to attend the meeting in which the Commission
voted to reconsider the motion on the Villa. Stated
that Attorney Jim Moran was present at that meeting
on behalf of the Villa and asked that they be per-
mitted to reserve their objections until the rehearing
of the motion until today. Stated that that had ap-
parently been acceptable to the Commission.
Daily stated that firstly, the Villa objects to hold-
ing a rehearing at this time without any formal no-
tice being given. Stated that Section 20-5 of the
Code provides that for a hearing on a preliminary
plat five days notice of a public hearing will be given
to the subdivider as well as to adjoining owners and
the notice has to be published. Stated it was the
contention of the Villa that any such rehearing should
have the same notice and a public hearing should be
held.
Daily stated that the essence of the argument the ap-
plicant would like to make against the rehearing of
this matter, it is the Villa's firm belief that any
rehearing of the matter, for the purpose of permitting
a Commission member to change his vote, is contrary to
the laws of the State of Colorado. Stated that the
question of the authority of a Municipal Board to re-
consider its own earlier judgment is complicated.
Stated that this is determined by the function that
the board is performing in the decisions made. In
this case, we're dealing with approval or disapproval
of a request for preliminary plat consideration.
Stated the Commission is performing an adjudicative
function as distinguished from a legislative function.
Daily further stated that adjudicative functions are
those which apply the existing law to a specific situ-
ation. Stated that the Courts have traditionally de-
nied the power of an administrative board to reopen,
rehear, reconsider a matter where an adjudicative fun-
ction is being performed. Stated that it is important
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that there be some finality in the decisions of a Com-
mission of this type.
Daily further stated that judicial actions look to an
existing situation, apply the law as it is today to a
set of facts as they appear to the Commission today.
Daily questioned if the Commission was making their
decision on the original facts before the Commission
or whether something had intervened.
Daily further sited the case of Chitwood v. Adams Coun-
ty, 1972, Colorado Supreme Court Case, in which the
Court said, "It is well settled in Colorado that a
zoning board may hold a rehearing, and even reverse
itself, if there has been a substantial change in the
facts or circumstances subsequent to the first hear-"
ing."
Daily pointed out that in this case, there are no new
facts or circumstances and the situation has not
changed.
Schiffer stated that this was not a rehearing, that
instead, it was a reconsideration of a motion. Fur-
ther stated that, according to the Commission's By-
Laws, which incorporate Robert's Rules of Order, the
Commission can reconsider a motion without giving
any notice. Stated that the provision is that the
motion to reconsider can be made and considered pro-
vided it is made at that meeting or the next regular
meeting, which was the case. Stated it was not another
public hearing to get any new input from the public.
Referred to Article II, Section 8 of the Aspen Plan-
ning and Zoning Commission By-Laws.
Daily stated that Robert's Rules of Order are simply
procedural rules, and do not say whether or not a re-
hearing is legal. Felt that in this state, this type
of rehearing is not legal.
Gillis stated that the Commission did have the opinion
of the City Attorney, who felt this procedure is legal.
Schiffer stated that he felt the distinction was that
this was a revote rather than a rehearing.
MAIN MOTION
Roll call vote - Bruce Gillis, nay; Chuck Vidal, aye;
Bryan Johnson, aye; Jack Jenkins, nay; Spence Schiffer,
aye; Geri Vagneur, aye. Motion carried.
Schiffer stated that the reason he voted the way he
did was based on two basic grounds: (1) feels it
is probably a bad project for that area, and a lot of
reasons why the project should have been shot down be-
fore, but based on the minutes and the memorandums
from the Planning Office to the applicant, the ap-
plicant was led to believe that if they satisfied
certain conditions, that the Planning Office would
feel that the project was suitable for that particular
site. Stated that just because the Commission ap-
proved the project at this stage, does not mean that
they cannot disapprove it at a later stage.
Schiffer further stated that his understanding from
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the Planning Office where the Commission first
on it, that the conditions had been satisfied.
the main problem was from the point of view of
department, and they stated it wasn't an ideal
dition, but that they felt that it met all the
ments.
voted
Felt
the fire
con-
require-
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Schiffer stated that the primary reason that he voted
as he did was that the applicant had come before the
Commission on July 10th (public hearing on preliminary
plat) and no action was taken. July 17th no action
was taken. November 20th, the matter was tabled.
Stated that he understood the applicant did not with-
draw voluntarily and that it was up for consideration
each one of those times. Stated that the subdivision
regulations provide that the Commission must take ac-
tion within 30 days of the date of the hearing. They
must either approve, disapprove, or approve subject to
modifications, and none of those actions were taken.
Therefore, feels that this Commission has any power
to make any determination at this point. Stated that
he felt by not taking action to approve or disapprove,
felt the Commission gave up any right to take that
action previously.
Schiffer stated that he felt that when the applicant
returns to the Commission for future approvals, that
the other considerations will be extremely relevant.
Pointed out that the subdivision regulations do pro-
vide that the subdivision cannot be approved if the
Commission feels that there is any factor likely to
be detrimental to the health, welfare and safety of
the inhabitants of that project.
Johnson stated that even though he voted for the mo-
tion, he did not approve of the project in that lo-
cation. Does not approve of the idea of rehearing
something which has already taken place. Stated that
although he did not attend the meeting of the original
vote, he would not have voted for it at that time.
Jenkins stated he felt the project was not consistent
with good design and felt it was using up the last
square inch of an area which is neither safe from
fire, etc.
Johnson made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Jenkins.
All in favor, motion carried. Meeting adjourned at
6:30 p.m.