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Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning & Zoning
October 16, 1973
Meeting was called to order at 5:10 p.m. by Chairman Jim Adams with Bruce
Gillis, Bryan Johnson, and Jack Jenkins. Also present City/County Planner
Herb Bartel and Assistant Donna Baer.
Johnson made a motion to approve the minutes of October 2, 1973, seconded by
Gillis. All in favor, motion carried.
Oklahoma Flats -
Rezoning
Resolution
Bartel submitted the Aspen Planning Commission Resolution
recommending the rezoning of Oklahoma Flats to the Com-
mission.
"WHEREAS, a City initiated application has been
made requesting that Okalhoma Flats as shown on the at-
tached map be rezoned from R-6, Residential to R-15,
Residential, and
WHEREAS, the Aspen Planning Commission has held a
public hearing on said rezoning application and has con-
sidered all statements, evidence, maps, correspondence
and other materials both for and against said rezoning,
and
WHEREAS, the Aspen Planning Commission has determined
that the requested amendatory zoning ordinance is neces-
sary to protect and promote the public interest.
NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that the Aspen Plan-
ning Commission hereby recommends that the City Council
approve the rezoning of the land known as Okalhoma Flats
as shown on the attached map be rezoned from R-6 Residen-
tial to R-15 Residential,
NOW THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Plan-
ning Commission feels said area is especially suited for
development under the Planned Unit Development concept
and encourages this approach."
Gillis made a motion for the Commission to approve the
signing of this Resolution and submit it to the City
Council, seconded by Johnson. All in favor, motion
carried.
Blue Sky Condo. -
Preliminary Plat
Ms. Baer explained that after the developer's previous
presentation, Commission had requested further expert
appraisal of the site.
Ms. Baer submitted an avalanche report done by Hans
Frutiger and Whitmey M. Borland. Stated that it would
appear that there would be no avalanche in the wedge
for at least 150 years.
Ms. Baer stated that the Planning Office felt construc-
tion could be permitted. Felt language should be included
on the Subdivision Plat noting the avalanche area.
Steve Crowley was present and submitted a map to the
Commission showing the avalanche area. Stated that
originally planned for 24 units, but due to the cir-
cumstances had reduce the units to 8.
Lenny Oates, Attorney representing the developer, stated
that the report and credentials were evidence in support
of the modified plans.
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Main Motion
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White Property
Exemption from the
Definition of
Subdivision
Aspen Planning & Zoning
Crowley stated that there had been no avalanche activity
in the wedge for 80-100 years.
Chairman Adams stated the report submitted appeared to
be extremely comprehensive and satisfactory.
Ms. Baer questioned Crowley as to where the utilities
would be dug in.
Crowley stated that it would be on the east end of Lot 1.
Ms. Baer qeustioned the turn-around and whether or not
it had the approval of Willard Clapper, head of the
Fire Department.
Crowley stated that the plans had been redone and they
had put in a road. Stated that the grade going down
was approximately 8%.
Ms. Baer stated that the road must be reviewed in relation
to the topographical map.
Crowley stated that he had notes from Clapper concerning
the access to the site, and pointed out the location of
the hydrants.
Ms. Baer stated that the developers agreed to participate
in any improvement district as if bordered by Ute Avenue.
Oates stated that the developer would ocmmit the trail
easement on the final plat.
Gillis made a motion to approve the preliminary plat for
Blue Sky Condominiums on the following conditions:
(1) Planning Office acceptance of the recorded ac-
cess easements through adjacent properties.
Book and page should be on plat.
(2) Engineering Department approval - recommenda-
tion to exceed the maximum of 8% grade in the
southerly access road.
(3) Engineering Department approval - provisions
to assure runoff will not affect lower lots,
either by storm drains or drainage easement.
(4) Engineering Department Approval - a contour
map to be provided to determine if water can be
served to the lot. If adequate pressure is not
available for fire protection, a pump and storage
system will be required. Require room for the
Fire Truck to turn around.
(5) Engineering Department Approval - utilities to
be 'brought to the site by easement which does
least damage to natural terrain.
(6) Language on the plat noting avalanche area.
(7) Public trail easement on private road.
Motion seconded by Johnson. All in favor, motion carried.
Attorney Nick McGrath was present and submitted a map
showing the proposed land exchange. Riverview is build-
ing a condominium project at 1020 E. Hopkins Street and
wishes to exchange approximately 84 sq. ft. with an ad-
jacent land owner in order that they may have a simpler
and straighter lot line.
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Ms. Baer stated that the Planning Office had no objec-
tions to this proposal.
Gillis made a motion to exempt the White Property from
the definition of Subdivision, seconded by Johnson. All
in favor, motion carried.
Schottland
Agreement
Bartel submitted to the Commission a copy of the proposed
Agreement, and summarized the following points: (1) sets
out for the Commission recommendation that Ordinance #19
be amended to include the list of uses; (2) specifies
square footage limitation for the first phase; (3) City
would not be stopped from changing land use expenditures.
Schottland explained that there would only be 12% land
coverage on the total site, and that the project must
come under subdivision review.
Chairman Adams stated that he would rather not amend
Ordinance #19, Commission concurred.
Gillis stated he would like to approve the Agreement
without amending Ordinance #19.
Jenkins pointed out that the Commission would have more
problems dealing with this project because it presents
the particular problem of being so large.
Chairman Adams stated that he felt the uses should be
approved by Ordinance #19 Review procedure rather than
amending the Ordinance.
Gillis stated he would like to compare the Agreement with
the agreement wfuich was previously presented.
Bartel pointed out that the uses are the same in both
agreements.
Chairman Adams explained that the intent of Ordinance #19
was to give the Planning & Zoning Commission a say in
whether or not something goes in. Some things would be
allowed, while others would be held in ab~yance.
Schottland pointed out that the first paragraph of the
Agreement gave the City the right to rezone as they saw
fit.
Jenkins stated that he felt the map should be changed so
that this large parcel of land could be zoned differently.
Bartel pointed out that Ordinance #19 was not designed
to apply to projects that will have a long-range build
out.
Jenkins made a motion to approve the agreement on the
condition that the first phase uses would still be sub-
ject to Ordinance #19, and that the Planning Office could
determine if the uses are acceptable, seconded by Johnson.
Johnson then moved to amend the motion to say that "this
agreement is for the life of Ordinance #19 only". All in
favor, with the exception of Gillis, who abstained.
City Attorney Sandra STuller was present and stated that
she felt the Commission could not delegate that power to
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to the Planning Office.
Gillis made a motion to amend the original motion to
read that the Commission would review the project under
Ordinance #19, seconded by Johnson. All in favor, motion
carried.
R.O. Anderson
Residence
Ms. Baer stated that this proposal was an addition of
a garage and a studio, and would not increase the density.
Gillis made a motion to approve the proposal, seconded by
Johnson. All in favor, motion carried.
Ordinance #19
Review -
Sanderson
Building
Architect Larry Yaw was present and explained that this
was a proposal to add a second floor above the Tom Mix
Flying School for retail purposes. Stated that Tom Mix
has agreed to buy two parking spaces and construct roof
drainage according to specifications of the City Engineer-
ing Department. Would be an additional 900 plus square
feet.
Yaw further pointed out that this addition would not in-
terfere with the view.
Ms. BAer submitted a diagram of the proposed addition, and
stated that the Historic Preservation Committee had re-
viewed the proposal and had approved it.
Johnson made a motion to approve the addition, seconded by
Gillis. All in favor, motion carried.
Ordinance #19
Review -
Woods Building
Ms. Baer stated that the Historic Preservation Committee
had approved the structure, but would like to review the
color and the building material.
Ms. Baer briefly explained the diagram of the Commission
and explained that the City Council must grant approval
to the covered walk.
Gillis made a motion to approve the proposal on the con-
dition that the drainage be satisfactory for the covered
roof, seconded by Jenkins. Motion included that the
requirement for parking space purchase be determined. All
in favor, motion carried.
Ordinance #19
Review -
Caribou
Condominiums
Ms. Baer explained that this was a review of two units
second phase of a new six unit condominium.
Johnson made a motion to recommend for approval on con-
dition that the applicant dedicate a ski easement along
the southerly boundary of the property, seconded by Jen-
kins. All in favor, motion carried.
Ute Avenue
Condominiums
Ms. Baer pointed out that this was a project on Ute Avenue
at the Aspen Alps Road, a request for new 14 unit con-
dominium. Further pointed out that the zoning in this
area was mixed residential.
Ms. Baer further pointed out that the Ordinance #19 Re-
view Committee had recommended denial of the project for
the following reason - use appears to be incompatable
with the land use plan and mass of the proposed structure
too great.
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October 16, 1973
Johnson made a motion to deny the proposal, seconded by
Jenkins. All in favor, motion carried.
Bruce Kistler, attorney representing the developer, was
present and requested the Commission clarify the grounds
for denial.
Chairman Adams stated that the use doesn't conform with
the Land Use Map.
Ms. Baer stated that the Planning Office felt it was a
tourist use in a mixed residential area.
Kistler asked the Commission if they would classify mixed-
residential as a land use which would prohibit second homes.
Chairman Adams stated that they were applying the definition
of permanent resident housing.
Ms. Baer expressed the Council's concern for permanent
housing.
Chairman Adams stated that the second home takes up space
in an area which he doesn't want to see devoted to that
use.
Bartel stated that Ordinance #19 requires that disapproval
be in writing and sent by the Building Inspector.
Johnson made a motion that the Commission recommend the
Planning Office write a Resolution giving the reasons
for denial of the project and that this Resolution be
returned to the Commission for approval. Motion seconded
by Jenkins. All in favor, motion carried.
Coach light
Chalet
Ms. Baer stated that this was a request for one additional
unit on the second floor of an existing lodge. Pointed
out that this is mixed residential.
Chairman Adams stated that he objected to any lodge ex-
pansion in that area. Felt it would be inconsistent to
not allow Stein Gantzel to build on to his lodge and al-
low this expansion.
Mr. Eyemere's brother was present and stated that this
addition had been approved by the Board of Adjustment and
the Advisory Board had recommended approval.
Chairman Adams pointed out that this was fairly far-re-
moved from the core area and would create a transporta-
tion problem.
Gillis stated that sidewalks need to be considered for
that area.
Gillis made a motion to deny the project. Motion failed
for lack of a second.
Johnson made a motion to approve the project. Motion
failed for lack of a second.
It was pointed out that Mr. Eymere had initiated this be-
fore Ordinance #19, and that the Board of Adjustment had
referred this to City Council, and that it had had ap-
proval.
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Further pointed out that the Brown Ice Palace was quite
a tourist attraction, and that the Commission should con-
sider this expansion absolute miniumum.
Johnson made a motion to approve the project, seconded by
Jenkins. Johnson, aye; Jenkins, aye; Gillis, abstain;
Adams, nay. MOtion passed.
Ms. Baer pointed out that preliminary and final approval
would be at next regular meeting.
Commission decided to hold a special meeting on Tuesday,
October 23rd at 5:00 p.m.
Gillis made a motion to adjourn, seconded by Jenkins. All
in favor, motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m.
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