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FORM I! C.r.HOECK:ELB.B.& L. CO.
Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning & Zoning
December 4, 1973
Meeting was called to order by Chairman Jim Adams at 5:10 p.m. with Bruce Gillis,
Bryan Johnson, Jack Jenkins, and Spence Schiffer. Also present City/County
Planner Herb Bartel and Assistant PLanners Donna Baer and John Stanford.
Johnson made a motion to approve the minutes of November 20, 1973, seconded by
Jenkins. All in favor, motion carried.
OLD
BUSINESS
Ord. #19
Bartel stated that copies of Ordinance #19, with the amend-
ment incorporated in it, were presently available. Could
be picked up in the Building Department.
Geri Vagneur arrived.
Mixed-Residential
Inventory
Bartel stated that at the study session the previous week,
several members had indicated that they would work on the
inventory for the area shown on the Ordinance #19 map as
mixed-residential.
Stated that John Stanford has prepared the outline of what
the Planning Office would like to have the Commission look
at. Stated that copies of aerial photographs and address
maps have been prepared.
Requested that those working on the project meet with Stan-
ford.
Ord.#19 Review -
Episcopal Church
Bartel stated that this project had come before the advisory
board, and that they didn't see any problems with the first
stage of that project.
Jenkins made a motion to approve the preliminary and final
plans of the first stage of this project, seconded by John-
son. All in favor, motion carried.
TRAILS GRANT-
IN-AID APPLI-
CATION
Bartel explained that the Parks Department and the Planning
Office had prepared a $25,000 Grant-in-Aid application for
trails. Stated that the Council had budgeted $25,000 and
that they were trying to match that with land and water
conservation funds.
Stated that the application was in, but for action to be taken
on the application by the State, needs comments from the Com-
mission.
Bartel submitted letter to the Commission, to Mr. O'Malley
of the Division of Parks and Outdoor Recreation. The letter
read as follows:
"The Planning Commissions of the City of Aspen and the Coun-
ty of Pitkin have reviewed the City's Grant-in-Aid Applica-
tion by the Department of Parks and Recreation for multi-
purpose trail and footbridge. This application is in com-
pliance with the Aspen Trail System Plan which has been a-
dopted by both the City of Aspen and Pitkin County Planning
and Zoning Commissions.
There has been extensive use of the multi-purpose trail ex-
tending to the high school and city parks complex funded
by the Division of Game, Fish and Parks in 1972. The funds
requested in this application will help continue the devel-
opment of this much needed trail system for the Aspen area
which will benefit not only residents of the community but
it's visitors from the State and nation."
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UTE VILLAGE
CONDOMINIUMS -
Preliminary Plat
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Bartel explained that these are funds for construction, and
not land acquisition. Funds are for the footbridge at the
end of East Hopkins, and trail construction through the
golf course. Stated that that trail could be extended either
along the highway to the airport, or across the golf course
property down to the bridge that Henry Stein has placed over
the Roaring Fork and then over to the Rio Grande right-of-
way. Need not be a dead-end trail system.
Bartel pointed out that the County was working on the ease-
ment acquisitions within the County.
Gillis made a motion to authorize Chairman Adams to sign the
letter submitted by Bartel, seconded by Vidal. All in favor,
motion carried.
Joan Lane questioned if the trail would connect through the
town.
Bartel stated that it would not in this application.
Bartel submitted map of the proposed view preservations that
the Planning Office had gone over with the Commission in a
study session.
Public hearing date was set by the Commission for January 15,
1974.
Bartel stated that he would give a copy of the map to Sandra
Stuller for the Bar Association, and a copy to Ted Mularz
for the Architects Collaborative.
Ms. Baer pointed out that this project had come before the
Commission for conceptual a;::'proval under Ordinance #19 pre-
viously.
Ms. Baer stated that the project was on Ute Avenue adjoining
Ute Cemetary. Stated that this was a request for 77 units,
with a mixture of condominium apartments and two single-family
dwellings.
Ed Baker, representing Alpine Land Company, developers of this
project, was present. Stated this would be a low-density de-
velopment on a 7.65 acre site on Ute Avenue, with a high-
density development to the west already in existence.
Baker stated this would be a mixture of condominium apart-
ments for permanent residents, on which they would covenant
no short term rentals. The 18 units with parking across the
street. Stated that there were plans for two tennis courts.
Baker further stated that there would be 43 townhouses, with
a mixture of 2,3, and 4 bedrooms. Also 14 patio houses aId
2 single-family dwellings.
Baker stated that the most recent zoning allows 29 units per
acre, but they are proposing just slightly over 10 units per
acre.
Baker stated that no one's view of Independence Pass would be
blocked or any other scenic view. Open space on the plat
would be preserved by covenant. Stated that 22% of the de-
velopment is devoted to lower cost housing.
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Baker stated that Greenway is provided between the develop-
ment of the river, as proposed in the Roaring Fork Green-
way Plan. Further stated that the dedicated public walk-
ways is included in'the Greenway along the river.
Baker pointed out that there is an 8" sanitary sewer 150'
from the western corner of the site, and located within
ute Avenue is a new 12" water main, and 4" gas main.
Anticipated development schedule would be to begin within 1
year and complete construction within 3 years.
At this point, Baker submitted floor plans for the Commission
review.
Gillis questioned Baker as to whether or not they were plan-
ning on using the patio space for drainage.
Dick Fallon stated that they would be using interior roof
drainage.
Chairman Adams stated that the main access would be off of
Ute Avenue.
Ms. Baer stated that the Planning Office was recommending
tabling of this project for the following reasons: (1) this
site is in a major channel under the new urban run-off de-
velopment plan, and the Engineering Department would like
time to analize and work with the applicant to determine the
size and the location of that drainage channel through the
site, which may result in some significant site plan altera-
tions; (2) City cannot supply this site with water due to
lack of water pressure. Feels this needs to be investigated
further with the City's water consultants; (3) depending
upon a decision under Ordinance #19 review.
Ms. Baer stated there were some other subdivision considera-
tions: (1) need some elevations to determine the view
plane; (2) utility easements have to be shown and described.
Schiffer questioned Ms. Baer as to when these plans were sub-
mitted to the Planning Office.
Ms. Baer stated that they were submitted October 31st.
Pat Maddalone was present and questioned the problem of
water pressure, and why they weren't informed of this pro-
blem before.
Ms. Baer stated that she did inform someone connected with
the project at the meeting of their Ordinance #19 presen-
tation.
Ms. Maddalone questioned when they will be able to get water
to this site.
Ed DelDuca, Assistant City Engineer stated taht the consul-
tants are working on this now. Stated that the consultants
were Wright-McLaughlin.
Schiffer stated that he had a concern with the timing pro-
cess. Questioned if the Commission tabled this project,
don't they have a time limit of 30 days.
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Ms. Baer stated that she did
have to act within 30 days.
ding further information.
not believe the Commission would
Stated it would be tabled pen-
Vidal stated that he would like to abstain due to conflict,
but stated that the Commission should try to get a formalized
procedures as far as the status and timing of different pro-
jects is concerned. Should develope a method to avoid mis-
understanding.
Bartel stated that the 30-day limit is in the Ordinance #19
review specifically, and would check on the preliminary plat.
DelDuca stated that it would be to the benefit of the devel-
opers if they waited, since the run-off plan could change
their site plan considerably.
Ms. Maddalone questioned Bartel on if they were obliged to
provide the drainage ditch, what compensation would the de-
veloper get?
Bartel stated that compensation was a legal consideration.
Schiffer, after checking the Code, stated that failure of
the Commission to act within 30 days constitutes approval.
Bill Dunaway questioned the Commission as to whether or not
there was any time limit on re-application.
Chairman Adams stated that the Commission could table the
project now, and make a decision within thirty days.
Bartel stated that even though it is not specifically spelled
out in the Code, the Commission could table the project and
act on it within eO days.
Johnson made a motion to table the consideration of the pro-
ject with the condition that the Commission act on it with-
in 30 days, seconded by Schiffer. All in favor, motion
carried.
RIVERVIEW CON-
DOMINIUM -
Exemption
Ms. Baer stated that this project was requesting subdivision
exemption. Ms. Baer submitted the following recommendations
on the project:
(1) E. Hopkins, additional ROW for cul-de-sac per
Engineering Department specifications.
(2) Agreement to join in future street improvement
district.
(3) Revised description to meet "as built" trail,
including an extension back to Hopkins along
west property line.
(4) Agreement to join in future sidewalk improve-
ment district.
(5) Condominium map should acknowledge that water
supply has not been verified by the City.
(6) Include in homeowners' association agreement a
responsibility of the association to monitor and
maintain dry wells according to an established
schedule.
(7) Agreement to join in future drainage improvement
district.
Ron Austin, Attorney representing the developer, stated that
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the developer would agree to those conditions.
DelDuca stated that the trail was constructed with the ap-
proval of Fred Wooden, former Assistant Planner. Easement
that is dedicated is not where the trail is constructed.
Austin stated that the applicant agrees to adjust the des-
cription according to the already constructed trail.
Chairman Adams stated that this project is an already-con-
structed project.
Gillis stated that he was disappointed in the maintenance
of the trail, and feels it should be cleaned up.
DelDuca stated that the trail was approved before snowfall.
Schiffer questioned if the City Attorney had read the con-
dominium declaration.
Austin stated that he felt she would have no objections.
Stated that the condominium declaration is ready to be re-
corded.
DelDuca stated that the Engineering Department would like
to have the easement granted on the plat.
Schiffer made a motion to accept this proposal, subject to
final approval of the Planning Office and redefinition of
the trail easement, seconded by Vagneur. All in favor, motion
carried.
CONCEPT 600 -
SUBDIVISION
EXEMPTION
Bob Gruetter was present representing the developer.
Ms. Baer pointed out that Concept 600 was in the same situ-
ation as Riverview Condominiums.
Ms. Baer submitted the following recommendations from the
Planning Office:
(1) An agreement to join in future street improve-
ment district.
(2) pedestrian easement from Main Street along wes-
tern boundary and vacated Hunter Avenue.
(3) Condomonium map should acknowledge that water
supply has not been verified by the City.
(4) Implementation of an approved drainage plan; a
performance bond should be submitted.
(5) Agreement to join in a future drainage improve-
ment district.
Gruetter stated that they had everything worked out that
needs to be, with the exception of the dedication of the
pedestrian easement.
Stated that they agreed to post a $1,000.00 bond for the
dry well.
DelDuca questioned if the City had the right to go onto the
property.
Ms. Baer stated taht they could put that in the agreement.
Gillis made a motion to approve, subject to the recommen-
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dations of the Planning Office being met and approval of the
City Attorney, seconded by Vagneur. All in favor, motion
carried.
CITY PROPERTY -
11>, ACRE SITE
Bartel stated that the Planning Office had published notice
that the Public Hearing on the II>, acres would be held.
Stated that they did not nold a Public Hearing on the pre-
liminary plat.
Bartel stated that this would be re-published, due to the
fact that they could not get signatures on the plat in time
for the public hearing.
Gillis made a motion to adjourn the meeting, seconded by
Johnson. All in favor, motion carried. Meeting adjourned
at 6:45 p.m.
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