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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
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FORM" C,F.HOE:CKlL8.B.bL.CO.
Continued Meeting
Aspen Planning and Zoning
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July 1"1-, 1973
Vice Chairman Bruce Gillis called the meeting to order at 5:40 p.m.
with Bryan Johnson and Jack Jenkins. Also present City/County Planner
Herb Bartel.
Carl Bergman -
View Plane
Consideration
Herb Bartel distributed a letter to the Commission
from Ken Hubbard. attorney representing Carl Berg-
man.
Charles Vidal arrived.
Hubbard explained in the letter that the proposed
building site is located on Main Street, diagon-
ally across from the Hotel Jerome. The proposed
structure would consist of 12,000 square feet -
including retail space, office space, storage
space, and underground parking.
Hubbard pointed out that the proposed view plane
ordinance for the Hotel Jerome would eliminate
almost 50% of the usable area of the structure.
An alternative which Hubbard suggested in his letter
was a partial "trade-off" of the open space in front
of the building for the space being taken by the
proposed view plane ordinance.
At this point, a diagram of the proposed building
was submitted. It was further pointed out that
the view plane entirely eliminated the third
floor and partially eliminated the second floor.
Bartel explained that if Council passes Ordinance
#19, the ordinance won't be in effect until after
publication. Presently this project falls under
Ordinance #9. The Board of Adjustment could throw
it back to the Planning & Zoning Commission, since
hardships of this type are not considered by the
Board.
Vidal stated he would like the Architects Collabo-
ration to provide a guideline for this area of
concern.
Vice Chairman Gillis suggested that one alterna-
tive would be to lease or purchase parking space
and use the basement and sub-basement for retail
space.
Bartel explained that in order to purchase parking,
it would cost $4,800 per space, payable over a 20-
year period.
Commission asked Bergman if he purchased the park-
ing spaces, would it be possible to eliminate the
elevator. Bergman explained that the elevator
would cost $60,000 and was necessary for moving
merchandise.
Hubbard pointed out that he felt the 15 foot limit
for the view plane was arbitrary and completely
unrelated to construction. Felt that Bergman is
being restricted to 25% open space in addition to
the view plane open space.
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It was further pointed out that due to the view
plane, Bergman would lose 3,966 square feet of
the total 12,000 square feet of above-ground
space.
Vidal stated that the possible view plane in-
trusion is an architectural problem, and thus
would have to be solved by the architects.
Further considerations pointed out by Bergman
were: (1) They would try to save the trees;
(2) Replacing curb in Main Street; (3) Gen-
eral site improvement; (5) Zoning enforce-
ment policy - review by Building Inspector.
Commission agreed to table Bergman's request un-
til a possible compromise could be worked out.
Curt Chase -
View Plane
Consideration
Attorney Jim Moran, representing Curt Chase, was
present to voice his concern about the Indepen-
dence Pass View Plane from Rubey Park.
Moran requested consideration for withdrawing the
recommended view planes from Rubey Park and fur-
ther review by the Planning Office of the recom-
mendations. Stated the combination of view planes
has serious consequences for Chases's property.
Presently, he would have to oppose the view
plane to Independence Pass.
MOran pointed out the view plane at present goes
from 15 feet at the property line, to approxi-
mately 25 feet at the oppesite side. Stated
that Chase has no development plans at the pre-
sent time. Would like to see the view planes
brought back to the Planning and Zoning Com-
mission for further considerations.
Bartel explained that the first presentation
from the Planning Office did not include the view
of Independence Pass, but it was added at the re-
quest of the Planning and Zoning Commission.
Stated that in order for the view planes to get
a full test, they must relate to specific deve-
lopment proposals.
Moran then brought up the question of the view
plane as a taking of space. Moran further ques-
tioned why the Planning Office has not sent notice
to the property owners affected by the view planes
of at least the public hearings on the view planes.
Bartel explained that this was due primarily to
a lack of money, and that it was quite an ex-
pensive process.
Commission agreed to bring view planr proposals
back to the Planning and Zoning Commission for
further consideration before sending recommen-
dations to Council. Further agreed that it
would be beneficial to take a field trip to the
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proposed view plane sites in order to determine
exactly what the affects of the view planes would
be.
Meeting adjourned into study session at 7:15 p.m.