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FORll lO C. F. ~OECKEL 6. 8. II l. CD.
ll:egular Meeting
Aspen Planning & Zoning
June 6, 1972
Meeting was called to order by Chairman Robin Molny at 5:10 p.m.
with James Breasted, James Adams, Vic Goodhard. Also present City/
County Planner Herb Bartel, Assistant Planner Fred Wooden and Building
Inspector Clayton Meyring.
Breasted moved to approve the minutes of the last
meeting as prepared and mailed by the Secretary.
Seconded by Adams. All in favor, motion carried.
Charles Collins arrived.
Post Office
Post Office - Mr. Bartel request the Planning and
Zoning Commission meet with the City Council and
postal officials on Thursday at 3:30 p.m.
Brownell Subdivision and final development plan -
Chairman Molny opened the public hearing.
James Breasted left Commission table, due to conflict
of interest.
Brownell Sub.-
div. & PUD
Mr. James Reser, Surveyor, and Mr. Wooden explained
the changes made and noted on the final development
plan: (1) City Engineer requested a change in the
parking area to avoid one long curb cut, plat shows
2 curb cuts; (2) language was added to the plat that
was requested by the Commission; (3) the line between
the common area and Lot 2 has been changed.
Mr. Wooden questioned what the applicant plans to
do about the 4% of monies which is required.
Attorney Art Daily questioned how the 4% is estab-
lished. It was reported the 4% is based on present
market value prior to improvements. Applicant to
handle prior to issuance of building permit.
Chairman Molny closed the public hearing.
Adams moved to approve the final PUD plan conditioned
on the following: (1) that the language on the plat
be reviewed by the City Attorney; (2) that the 4%
payment to the City be noted on the plat that no
building permit will be issued until payment at the
present market value prior to improvements has been
paid and (3) recommend the Council waive the improve-
ments agreement requirement under the subdivision
regulations. Seconded by Goodhard.
Adams moved to amend the motion
of the final subdivision plat.
All in favor, motion carried.
to include approval
Seconded by Goodhard.
Main Motion - All in favor, motion carried.
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Reg. Meeting, P & Z, 6/6/72, continued.
Zoning Amend.
Zoning Amendment - Chairman Molny opened the public
hearing. Mr. Fred Wooden reviewed the proposal with
the Commission. (See attached data)
Discussed question raised by William Dunaway, of the
inconsistency in square footage of multi-family
dwelling and hotel, motel, lodge accommodations.
Mr. Wooden explained the proposal is based on a
need for permanent housing and presently there
is a limited amount of one bedroom hotel, motel
development.
Chairman Molny closed the public hearing.
Commission discussed the question raised by Mr.
Dunaway and felt a change in the proposal at this
time was not required. Further questioned the
building inspector on his policy of enforcement,
i.e. "door game". Mr. Meyring explained his policy
is that when the plans are reviewed, they are
checked as to any possibility of utilizing more
units than actually applied for.
It was noted by the Commission a change in the
proposed amendment regarding minimum square footage
of lot area per dwelling unit was made so that the
hotel, motel, lodge catagory for each district
would have separate square footage requirement for
unlimited, one bedroom limited and studio limited
units.
Breasted moved to dire~ the Planning Office to pre-
pare this proposal in ordinance form for Council
consideration with the change as noted and recommend
its adoption. Seconded by Adams. All infavor,
motion carried.
Black Birch
Lot 17
Stream margin request, Erickson, Black Birch, Lot
17 - Hat submitted, no problems, letter submitted
relieving the City of responsibility of flooding.
Goodhard moved to approve the application, however,
(approval runs to November 1, 1972 and recommend to
the Building Inspector to seriously consider re-
quiring that the building be set back sufficiently
from the edge of the presmt course of the stream
and the buildings on this lot be built in such a
way to protect from flooding, i.e. no basements,
lower floors be elevated etc., set on pilings of
some sort and that there be an agreement in writing
promoted by the owners of this lot that the City
will be relieved from the responsibility of floodingJ
Seconded by Collins. All in favor, motion carried.
Danieli S. Margin
Stream margin request, Danieli - Commission reviewed
plat, Mr. Wooden request the Commission review the
site due to some undercutting along the stream bank.
Mr. Danieli stated he ~o~l~ agree to a trail easement
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Jenkins, S. Margin
Villa Annex.
Proposed Bldg.
Main Street
Reg. Meeting, P & Z, 6/6/72, continued.
along the stream.
Charles Vidal arrived.
Stream margin request, Jack Jenkins - Commission
reviewed plat. Mr. Wooden request the Commission
review the site. Backfill and compacting along
the stream in this area.
Villa Annexation - Commission reviewed the plats.
Mr. Bartel submitted the cost analysis sheet pre-
pared by the engineering department on this annexation.
Mr. Bartel outlined the previous concerns of the
Commission: (1) access to the parking lot; (2)
present parking directly off of highway; (3) common
curb cut. Further explained the annexation by say-
ing there is a big difference in the water fees but
this should not be the main consideration on the
annexation. Consideration must be given to the
people who will be living in the units once it is
developed and their being a part of the City, also
a problem will exist with the arbitrary line after
development with part of the development being in the
City and part out of the City. Sidewalks etc.
would come under the issuance of a building permit.
AR-l is a condition of the annexation, but the
Commission should not consider zoning at this time.
Breasted moved to recommend to the City Council
that the Villa Annexation be annexed to the City.
Seconded by Goodhard.
Ad ams moved to amend the motion to include," based
on the following reasons: (1) although there is a
difference in revenue of $300, this is not the sole
consideration; (2) the configuration of the property
is such that the City and County line falls in an
arbitrary way; (3) sociologically this development
should be in the City because a majority of the
property is presently in the City." Seconded by
Collins. All in favor, motion carried.
Main Motion - All in favor, motion carried.
Chairman Molny reported on the meeting held with the
new owners of the property on Main Street between
Spring and Hunter. Requested the owners apply to
the Board of Adjustment for height variance so that
a monolitic building would not be constructed in
this location. Owners stated they were too far along
with their plans to make a change.
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Reg. Meeting, P & Z, 6/6/72, continued.
Alps Mall Plan
Aspen Alps Mall Plan - Plans were submitted and
reviewed. Requesting closure of Ute Avenue between
Spring and Original. Signatures of the adjoining
property owners were submitted. Permission from
the Fire Chief has not been obtained. Parking will
be replaced in another location.
Mr. Bartel stated the following conditions should be
met prior to the signing of an agreement: (1)
street closed but not vacated; (2) area open for
pedestrians, bicycles, horses and emergency vehicles;
(3) all expenses of the closure to be born by the
Aspen Alps and/or property owners; (4) analysis
of public parking and signing as a dead end street;
(5) approval of the fire chief; (6) implications of
closure from a legal point of view; (7) planning
and zoning commission reserves the right to review
the final landscaping plans.
Vidal moved to approve the closing of the street in
concept for the following reasons: (1) it is in
accordance with the general circulation plan; (2)
City encourages open space. Commission recommends
approval subject to the Commission's right to approve
the final drawings of what is to be accomplished on
the site. Seconded by Collins. All in favor, motion
carried.
Historic Bldgs.
Master Plan Committee - Mr. Bartel reported as a
starting point for consideration by the Historic
Preservation Committee the following sites have been
suggested: Lift No.1; Stollard House; Wheeler
Opera House and Ute Cemetery. Proposed resolution
of the above was submitted.
Collins moved to adopt the resolution and authorize
the Chairman to sign same. Seconded by Goodhard.
All in favor, motion carried.
Breasted moved to adjourn this meeting to Thursday
June 8th at 5:00 p.m. to reach a decision on tabled
stream margin requests. Seconded by Collins. All
in favor, motion carried.
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May, 1972
PROPOSED AMENffi1ENT TO CHAPTER 24
REGARDING MINlMU}1 SQDAIlli FOOTAGE OF LOT AREA P~QUlRED
FER DWELLING UNIT
See tion 1.
Existing Definition of a 1'Nelling Unit (24-2. (f)):
(f) Dwelling unit: T,v') or more rooms, in addition to
kitchen or bath facilities in a bDilding intended
or designed for occ~paney oy a family or guests inde..
pendent of other families or guests.
(1) Li::lited - One room, i71divisible, except for
included kitchell or bath facilities.
(2) Unlimited - ~vo or more rooms, in addition to
kitchen or bath facilities.
To be Replaced by the Following Definition of a Dwelling Unit
(2!f-2. (f)):
(f) DWELLING UNIT: ONE OR MORE ROOMS IN ADDITION TO KITCHEN
OR BATH FACILITIES IN A BUILDING INTENDED OR DESIGNED
FOR OCCUPANCY BY A FAMILY OR GUESTS INDEPENDENT OF OTHER
FAMILIES OR GUESTS.
(1) STUDIO: LIMITED - ONE ROOM, INDIVISIBLE, EXCEPT
FOR INCLUDED KITCHEN AND/OR BATH FACILITIES WHERE
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THE TOTAL FLOOR AREA OF THE UNIT DOES NOT
EXCEED 500 SQUARE FEET.
(2) ONE BEDROOM: LIMITED - TWO ROOMS IN ADDITION TO
KITCHEN AND/OR BATH FACILITIES \'!HERE THE TOTAL
FLOOR AREA OF THE UNIT DOES NOT EXCEED 700 SQUAIlli
FEET.
(3) UNLIMITED - TWO OR MORE ROOMS, IN ADDITION TO A
KITCHEN AND/OR BATH FACILITIES.
Section II.
24-5. (f) R-MF - RESIDENTIAL - MULTIPLE FAMILY to be Arr,ended as
Follows:
Minimum lot area:
1.
2.
One-family dwelling.
Two-family dwelling.
.
.
6,OPO
3,000
square feet
square feet per
dwelling unit with
a minimum lot area
of 6,000 sq. feet
square feet
2,000 square feet
2,000 square feet
per dwelling unit
with a minimum lot
area of 6,000 sq.
feet.
square feet
3.
4.
5.
Patio house. . . . . . . .
Row house. . . . . . . .
Multiple family dwelling
.
. 2,000
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i;588
6.
All other uses . . . . . . . . . . 6,000
Section III.
24-6. (a) AR-l ACCOMMOD^TIONS REc~ATION - URBAN to be Amended
as Follows:
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Minimum lot area:
,
1.
2.
One-family dwelling.
!\Yo-family dwelling.
.
6,000 square feet
3,000 square feet per
dwelling unit
with a minimum
lot area of
6,000 square feet
~;;gg 2,000 square feet
3.
4.
Patio house, row house . .
M~~Eiple-faffii~y-awe~~iRg;
ReEe~;-ffieEe~;-!eage. . . . .
~;;gg-s~~a~e-feeE-pe~
~R~iffiiEea-~Rie-aRa
;Z;g-s~~al!e-ff'el;:
pel!-~imieea-~Rie
wieR-a-miRi~~m
~ee-al!ea-ef-6-gee
,
s~~al!e-feee.
To be Replaced by 4. & 5. below~
4.
MULTIPLE FAMILY DWELLING
. . . . .
1,500 SQUARE FEET PER
UNLIMITED DWEL-
LING UNIT, 1,000
SQUARE FEET PER
1 BEDROOM; LIMITED
Dw~LLING UNIT AND
!50 SQUARE FEET
PER STUDIO; LIMITED
DWELLING UNIT WITH
A MINIMUM LOT AREA
OF 6,000 SQUARE
FEET.
5. HOTEL, MOTEL, LODGE. . " . .
. . 1,500 SQUARE FEET PER
UNLIMITED AND 1
BEDROOM; LIMITED
DWELLING UNIT AND
750 SQUARE FEET PER
STUDIO; LIMITED DWEL.
LING UNIT WITH A
MINIMUM LOT AREA OF
6,000 SQUARE FEET.
5.6. BOarding house, rooming
house, dormitory. . . . . . . . . . 500 square feet per
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limited or unli-
mited dwelling
unit or per four
persons of total
capacity, which-
ever is more res-
trictive, with a
minimum lot area
of 6,000 square
feet.
-6.7. All other uses. . . . . . . . . .3,000 square feet.
Section 1M:
24-6. (b) AR-2 ACCOMMODATION RECREATION - SUEURBAN to be Amended
as Foilows:
Minimum lot area:
1. One-family dwelling
2. Two-family dwelling
.
. 15,000 square feet
7,500 square feet per
dwelling unit with
a minimum lot area
of 15,000 square
feet
.
3. Patio, house, row house .
.
2,000 square feet
4. M~lei~le family awelliftg.
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~,GGG-B~~a~e-feee-~e~
~ftlimieea-~fti~-wic~
a-miftim~m-lec-area
ef-l5,GGG-8~~are
feee
To be repealed and replaced as follows:
4. MULTIPLE FAMILY D\-mLLING. . . .. 2,000 SQUARE FEET PER
UNLIMITED DWELLING
UNIT, 1,750 SQUARE
FEET PER 1 BEDROOM:
LIMITED DWELLING
AND 1,500 SQUAR~
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5.
Bea~di~g-fte~se,-~eemi~g
ftB~se,-de~ie~~y. . . .
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To be repealed and replaced as follo,;s:
5.
BOARDING HOUSE, ROOMING
HOUSE, DORMITORY. . .
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6. Hotei,-motei,-iedge. . . . . . . .
To be repealed and replaced as follows:
6.
HOTEL, MOTEL, LODGE. .
. . . . .
FEET PER STUDIO;
LIMITED DWELLING
UNIT WITH A MINI-
MUM LOT AREA OF
15,000 SQUARE FEET
5ee-s~~a~e-feeE-~e~
fB~~-~e~SBftS-ef
EeEa~-ea~aeiey,
WiEft-a-llIifti:;ft~1lI
~e~-a~ea-ef-~;5ee
sei1:ia~e-feeE
750 SQUARE FEET PER
DWELLING UNIT OR
FOUR PERSOl:\,S OF
TOTAL CAPACITY,
WHIC~lEVER IS MORE
RESTRICTIVE, WITH
A MINIMUM LOT AllliA
OF 7,500 SQUARE
FEET
~5e-~~~a~e-feeE-~e~
*illliEe6-~RiE-wiER
a-llIiRilll~~-lBE-area
ei-~;5Qe-a~~a~e
feee
. 1,500 SQUARE FEET PF.R
UNLIMITED AND 1
BEDROOM; LIMITED
DWELLING UNIT AND
750 SQUARE :<'EET
PER STUDIO; LIMITED
DWELLING UNIT WITH
A MINIMUM LOT AREA
OF 7,500 SQUARE
FEET
7. All other uses
. . . . . . . . . 5,000 square feet
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Section ,sv.
24-7. (b) C-C COMMERCIAL CORE to be Amended as Follows:
Minimum lot area
1.
Heee~;-meee~;-~eege.
. . . . . . . .
To be,repealed and replaced as follows:
1.
HOTEL, MOTEL, LODGE. .
. . . . .
2.
Boardinghouse, rooming
house, dormitory . . .
. . . . . .
3.
Bwe~~iRg-~Ries-aeeesse~y-ee
a-w.~~e-ineeRsive-~se - . . .
. . .
~;e-sq~a~e-feee-~e~
~imieee-ewe~~iRg
~Rie-aRe-~;5ee
sE\~a~e-feeE-~el'
~R~imieee-ewe~~~R5
~Rie-wiek-a-ffiiRi-
1I\~l!l-~ee-a~ea-6f
6;eee-sq~a~e-feee .,
1,500 SQUARE FEET PER
UNLIMITED AND 1
BEDROOM; LIMITED
DWELLING UNIT AND
750 SQUARE FEET
PER STUDIO; LIMITED
~JELLING UNIT WITH
A MINIMUM LOT AREA
OF 6,000 SQUARE
FEET.
500 square feet per
~ill\ieee-e~-~RH_-
lIlieee dwelling
unit or per each
four persons of
total capaci t:',
whichever is more
restrictive, with
a minimum lot area
of 6,000 square
feet.
T5e-~qtta=e-feet-per
iimtted-dweiiing
ttnit-and-i,S88
sqttare-feet-per
(~'--
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~fi!iMieea-awe!!iftg
~fti~-wiEfi-a-mifti-
M~M-!6E-a'l!ea-6f
6,eee-s~~a'l!e-feee
wfie'l!e-EfieEe-a~e
five-6'1!-M6'1!e-aWe!-
!iftg-~fties-6ft-6fte
!6E.
To be repealed and replaced as follows:
3.
MULTIPLE FAMILY
UNITS ACCESSORY
INTENSIVE USE .
DWELLING
TO A MORE
. . . . .
1,500 SQUARE FEET PER
UNLIMITED vWELLING
UNIT, 1,000 SQUARE
FEET PER 1 BED-
ROOM; UNITED DWEL-
LING UNIT AND 750
SQUARE FEET PER
STUDIO; LIMITED
DWELLING UNIT WITH
A MINIMUM LOT AREA
OF 6,000 SQUARE
FEET WHERE THERE
ARE FIVE OR MORE
D~~LLING UNITS ON
ONE LOT.
4.
All other uses.
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3,000 square feet
For purposes of density calculations, for each square
foot of public arcade space created at ground level, or open
space in addition to the required open space, 'on the build~ng
site, credit shall be given for an additional two square feet
of lot area in determining the allowable number of dwelling
units.
Note: Minimum lot ar.ea requirements for the C-l COMMERCIAL zone
district (Sec. 24-7. (a)) and for the C-2 COMMERCIAL zone
district (Sec. 24-7. (~)) are presently the same as the
AR-1 ACCOMMODATIONS RECREATION-URBAN zone district (Sec.
24-6. (e)) and would therefore reflect the proposed changes
in minimum lot area for AR-l as sho\VU above.
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May 24, 1972
Mr. Fred Wooden
Assistant Planner
P . 0 . Box V
Aspen, Colorado 81611
Dear Fred:
Thank you for keeping me informed of your progress on making the
proposed changes to Chapter 24 regarding square fcotage and lot area require-
ments for dwelling units.
The only recommendation for imp.~that I would make would
be to increase the maximum~' studios l 540 quar~ feet and the maximur,",
size for one bedroom units t 720 quare fi'e . recoldmendation is based
on the incremental size that bUI ers use in constructing buildings. A studio
unit designed in increments of six feet might be 18' x 30' with a total size
of 540 square feet. By the same token a one bedroom urit might be 24' x 30'
which would be 720 square feet. In both cases the sizes I am talking about
are not over-sized units. As a matter of fact, they would more appropriately
be considered average or moderate sized apartments.
Sincerely yours,
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Donald J . Fleisher
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October 12, 1971
Mr. Herb Bartel, Reg iona I Planner
Regional Planning Office
P . O. Box V
Aspen, Colorado 81611
Dear Herb:
According to our discussion several days ago, I will reiterate
my ideas concerr.ing an inequity in the present zoning ordinance for the
City of Aspen.
The ordinance differentiates between an efficiency apartment and
a one bedroom apartment by classifying the former as a limited unit and the
latter as an unlimited unit. The land ratio requirement per unit for the limited
is one unit per 750 square feet. The requirement for the unlimited unit is
1500 square feet.
My concern is a parcel of land approximately 15.000square feet in
size. I o.m presently permitted to build approximately twenty limited units or
ten unlimited units. In other words, I am permitted to build twenty efficiency
apartments or ten one bedroom apartments. According to the remodeling plans
for the Aspen Block I have one efficiency that is as much as 498 square feet
and I have one one bedroom unit that is as small as 460 square feet. Whereas
they are not the average size for each classification the point has been made.
The size of efficiency and one bedroom units can be and are approximately the
same. In addition, both units are suitable for one single person, two single
people or a couple. The fact that a builder might prefer to build one bedroom
units rather than efficiency units is no indication that there will be an increase
in either density or in the number of parking spaces required per unit.
Specifically, I am concerned about a building tentatively planned for
construction during the building period of 1972 en the west end of Block 27.
Due to the nature of that parcel of land, specifically that it is bound on three
sides by streets, one of which is Highway 82, it is my opinion that it is not
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a suitable place for families with children and pets. On the other hand, because
of its proximity to the downtown core and to the main entrar.;:;e to Ajax Mountain
it is an ideal spot for singles and couples I who I number onel do not have cars
and, number two I do not have pets. I would like to have as tenants older I
permanently employed persons in the community who desire to live in ap:lrtments
that have more amenities than what can be provided in a typical efficiency.
Again, I hesitate to do <.ny further planning until I am confident that there will
be either some change in zoning ordinances permitting me to design and build
the type of unit I want without being penalized or a variance to accomplish the sa~l,e end.
As a result of this letter I I would appreciate your keeping me informed
of any progress your office is making towatJ a correction of this existing inequ;ty
in our present zoning ordinance.
Sincerely yours I
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