HomeMy WebLinkAboutcoa.pz.gmc.011497GROWTH MANAGEMENT COMMISSION JANUARY 14, 1997
Sara Garton called the Special Meeting of the Growth Management Commission to
order. This is a joint commission of the City and County Planning & Zoning
members. Members Sara Garton, David Guthrie, Marcella Larsen, Kathy Tripodi,
Jake Vickery, Steve Whipple, Jasmine Tygre, Roger Hunt, Tim Mooney and Steve
Buettow were present. Marta Chaikovska, Bob Blaich and Dave Johnston were
excused and Alice Hubbard was absent. Steve Buettow asked to be recused.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING:
STAGE 3 PENTHOUSES GMQS EXEMPTION
SPECIAL REVIEW & SUBDIVISION
(continued from 12/17/96)
Suzanne Wolff explained that the applicants, George Carisch, represented by Alan
Richman & Dave Gibson, are requesting one metro area residential GMQS
allotment to develop one free market dwelling unit above the Stage 3 Theatres.
Stage 3 is located at 625 East Main Street. She said there was no competition and
staff awarded the project a total of 12 points. She stated each of the criteria must
receive at least 3 points and each of the 4 criteria did receive 3 points each in order
to receive the development allotment.
Wolff said that staff recommends approval of their scoring and to move forward to
City Council and the Board of County Commissioners. She explained that scoring
was based on a range of 0 - 5.
The first criteria is . The applicant will
Revitalizing the Permanent Community
provide 3 affordable housing units (deed restricted Category 3). Wolff said these
units fill a need in the Community, provides a mix of unit types to address different
housing needs and exceed the specifications in the housing guidelines. Wolff
stated the project is consistent with the standards and goal of the AACP.
The second criteria is . Wolff said that as an
Providing Transportation Alternatives
in fill project creating affordable housing, the project automatically contributes to
the goal of transportation alternatives and reducing automobile impacts. She noted
that creating residential development could create less traffic than the alternative
commercial development on site.
The third criteria is Wolff
Promoting Environmentally Sustainable Development.
said this is an in fill project not extending the urban area or removing open space.
Wolff explained the existing building will remain so they are not creating
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additional impacts on the land. She said there would be one wood burning device
on the property. Staff suggested they not have this device, but one is allowed.
The fourth criteria is
Maintaining Design Quality, Historic Compatibility and
Wolff stated the residential units will be set back from the
Community Character.
existing structure in order to reduce the perceived mass and step the structure down
as it approaches adjacent structures. She said staff felt the design was compatible
with surrounding buildings but did not enhance the area.
Garton asked Alan Richman for a presentation. Richman introduced George
Carisch. Carisch said he has owned a home here since the mid 70’s and purchased
the Playhouse Theatre in 1984, remodeled it into a Stage 3 and sold the operating
business in 1988 while retaining the property. Carisch said they were interested in
the Community.
Richman said this was the only application for this allotment and would be happy
if the commission accepted the scoring from Community Development staff. In
particular he wanted to go over the criteria in
Revitalizing the Permanent
and Dave Gibson would provide the design criteria. Richman said the
Community,
code states the evaluation of projects according to reasonable expectations
regarding what can be expected given their size and scale. He handed out a table
and explained they are providing 75% for employee housing (3 of the 4 units are
employee units). Richman said each of the units exceeds the size standards for
Category 3, which make them larger and more desirable to the occupants. He
stated the units are located in the center of Aspen making housing close to work,
shopping and public transportation activities. He noted this was the kind of in fill
project the AACP encouraged because there is no land development involved with
this project, just air space. He stated because there is a free market unit and
employee units with no additional commercial space are being developed, they are
exceeding the requirement for mitigating the housing needs. Richman said by
expanding the existing building, the important local service is being preserved
(Stage 3 Theatres).
Richman stated there have been many comments from neighbors, particularly
relating to the parking. He said part of the proposal is to pay cash-in-lieu for 4
spaces and cash-in-lieu for 2 additional spaces that are required. One of the
comments asked how we may better serve the community. Richman stated they
asked to pay cash-in-lieu $15,000 per commercial space to remove the commercial
requirement so the housing units could have spaces provided on site. The
application had 2 additional required spaces bringing the cash-in-lieu to 6 spaces or
$90,000.00 and would provide 4 on-site spaces if this is the approved plan.
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Richman said a suggestion would be to look at the Benedict Commons parking
spaces since out of the 31 spaces only 7 are being used (24 are vacant). He said
this would be good for the applicant to lease 2 spaces at Benedict Commons which
would cover all the bedroom required parking spaces for this project. Richman
stated they did not want to add any impacts to the neighborhood by creating these
additional 4 units.
Gibson - Reno had developed visual materials for the discussion. Gibson stated in
designing the project they picked up on some of the materials, shapes and forms
used in the neighborhood. He said the stucco finish on the buildings was
predominant and wanted to incorporate more timber and stone accents. Gibson
noted the scale was broken down appropriately to decrease the other neighboring
buildings. He said most of the other buildings had flats roofs, so in response they
won’t have to exceed the forty feet to accomplish their design goals by reducing
the site lines. Gibson explained that the proposed addition was stepped back from
the street in 15’ increments to increase solar access to the sidewalk. He said the
light to the street, sidewalk and Hunter Square Garden will not be reduced. He
said they have tried to study the sight lines from the buildings in the area.
Richman referred to the height of neighboring buildings and FAR numbers from
the assessors office.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Kathy Tripodi asked what kind of employee housing mitigation exists today for
that commercial space. Richman said the building was built prior to the Growth
Management System or affordable housing mitigation was adopted in Aspen.
David Guthrie asked how the 16’ relate to the balconies of the second or third floor
of the Concept 600 building. Gibson explained the photo was taken in effect from
the middle balcony. Guthrie asked if the free market unit could be
condominimized and sold. Richman stated this unit is being done for Mr. & Mrs.
Carisch.
Garton asked the height for the projection of the elevator. Gibson stated it was
another 4’ above cab was required. Sara Garton opened the public hearing.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
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Jim Curtis, Public, speaking for Housing Advisory Group of AACP, stated that
conceptually this project promotes and supports what the group wanted. He said
there were three points: (1.) places residential units downtown; (2.) developed
2nd and 3rd levels of buildings as housing (both free market and affordable vs.
commercial and office space) which was encouraged and (3.) creates incentives for
private developers to do affordable housing in a mixed use configuration. Curtis
stated that conceptually, this project does all of those things. He hoped the bulk
and mass of the building could be viewed as a win-win situation with flexibility of
the parties. Curtis said one option may be to reduce the size of the affordable units
which may address the bulk and mass issues. He noted there should be good sound
between the theatre and the residential units. Curtis applauded the applicant for
coming up with a plan that actually provided parking spaces because the cash-in-
lieu doesn’t solve the parking problems.
Dave Kidder, #306 Concept 600, said he has skied in Aspen since the 1940’s and
bought his unit 10 years ago for the view of Aspen Mountain. He remarked the
value of the units are dependent upon the view of the Mountain, it may be a selfish
concern, but it is his concern.
Phil Rothblum, 624 E. Hopkins, built a home behind the Stage 3 and showed
drawings of the building. He said they were concerned and mindful building this
single family home between the Stewart Title Building and office building on the
corner. He said his building was about 28’ high plus an open roof terrace and tried
to be sensitive of the street scape adding interests and off-sets into the building.
Rothblum stated they knew what the Stage 3 was, but had hoped to speak to the
owner about mitigating the appearance of that stucco wall in the back. He showed
a photo of the wall and the illegal dumpsters. Rothblum said they provided an
ADU, so he is not objecting to the concept but the height is pushing the height
limitations. He said the code required the volume must be considered in a
residential building or part thereof. He said the free market unit is 3500 sf which is
pretty large for the building and the project should be scaled back to keep in
character with the neighborhood. Garton noted that Mr. Rothblum’s letter was also
part of the record.
Bob Miller, Vice President Concept 600 Association, stated all the owners reiterate
what Mr. Kidder said about the view. He said they were also concerned about the
parking. He noted the tower for the elevator should be shown on the photos for
consideration.
Bob Bailey, Concept 600, was concerned about their view because that was part of
the price of the unit. He stated the poles placed on top of the building do not
represent the blockage of view or the elevator shafts. Gibson said the poles show
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the forward corners with regards to Main Street. He said there is a potential loss of
value of their property which would also be a loss of tax dollars.
Joe Edwards, Attorney representing Concept 600, stated the code provides that all
adjourned public hearings shall commence only upon the giving of all notices
which would have been required for the initial call of the public hearing. He said
in December there was no quorum, the quota system was not heard therefore
hearings were not in process but rather an adjourned meeting. Edwards said the
meeting was to be re-noticed and was not done. He said the GMQS notice was to
be posted and mailed, it was only published and none of the condo association
owners received the notice in the mail. He said no one ever saw a sign and notice
is a jurisdictional pre-requisite in order to proceed with a hearing. He said all of
the quotes from the code are attached as exhibits with his letter dated 1/14/97.
Edwards said that before GMQS can give a quota, the applicant must have met all
applicable requirements of the code. He said “if an existing development is
expanded additional off-street parking space shall be provided for that increment of
the expansion as if it is a separate development” and there proposal here-to-fore the
expanded development. Edwards continued that is a requirement of the code to
build new parking and not complied with the application therefore GMQS cannot
be awarded. He quoted from his letter regarding the mass and volume.
Hoefer quoted the code Chapter 26.26.040 that no meeting at which than less than
a quorum is present shall conduct any business (which did not occur) other than to
continue a posted agenda item to a date certain, which was done. Therefore you
have jurisdiction to proceed.
Richman stated the affidavit was posted and mailed.
COMMISSION COMMENTS
Tripodi questioned the transportation/parking issues but was in favor of the project
being downtown. Garton responded the parking might be required to be on site or
waived to encourage public transportation.
Guthrie asked if these units were dedicated to Stage 3 employees. Richman
answered no, these units would be registered with the housing authority. Guthrie
asked where the cash-in-lieu money went. Wolff understood that the money went
into a fund for the parking.
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Garton noted the scoring must meet the criteria for the scoring to go forward.
Vickery discussed criteria #1 regarding scoring at a 5 and criteria #4 he could not
score at even a 3, and said the particulars fall short.
MOTION: Roger Hunt moved to accept the staff scoring for the 1996
Residential GMQS competition to the City Council and the Board of
County Commissioners. Jasmine Tygre seconded. MOTION DENIED,
6 -3. Whipple, Larsen, Mooney, Garton, Guthrie and Vickery against.
Tripodi, Tygre and Hunt in favor.
Since the motion to accept staff scoring was denied, the commission must now
individually score on the four criteria. Clauson stated the commission will score as
they see fit but there must be a threshold score of 3 for the GMQS allotment to be
allocated, if denied it will be another year. The tape reflects the discussion of the
board amongst themselves regarding scoring.
Wolff took the individual scoring and Garton read the results:
4.3 Revitalizing the Permanent C ommunity
3.3 Providing Transportation Alternatives
3.1 Promoting Environmentally Sustainable Development
2.5 Maintaining Design Quality, Historic Compatibility and Community
Character.
Garton explained the project did not make threshold in every category which is 3.0.
Richman encouraged the GMC to take a hard look at the system which has been set
up. He said there is not even an opportunity to speak to the commission about
ways to mitigate the FAR, height. He asked for the GMC to review all four criteria
as to if you are above or below 12. He said the old scoring did not eliminate the
project because of one criteria not passing. Richman said the applicant has a hard
time responding to the criteria with the current scoring system having a
fundamental flaw.
Hunt said if this were a competition of more than one project, the out come would
be different, but with only one project being dropped out of the system because of
the method, is difficult for him to accept. He said the project was a good one.
Richman said the reason only one project was in the system was that no one wants
to compete with this “open ended” system not being able to review the criteria and
say what is a 3 or a 5. He said this is a difficult approach to one project and tells
people to do something else. He said if they had the 70/30 view they would be in
front of the commission.
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Tripodi said they could have come to the GMC prior to this meeting to discuss the
potential problems. She said the neighbors view could have been discussed.
Richman noted in the code the views have nothing to do with the GMQS or
scoring.
Garton adjourned the GMC at 6:30 p.m.
Jackie Lothian, Deputy City Clerk
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