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FO~M ~i C. F. HOEC~H 8. B. a L. CD.
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
100 Leaves
Regular Meeting
Planning and Zoning
December 12, 1972
Meeting was called to order at 5:00 p.m. by Acting Chairman Jim Adams, with
Anthos Jordan, Bruce Gillis, Barbara Lewis, Vic Goodhard and Charles Vidal.
City/County Planner Herb Bartel and Assistant Planner Fred Wooden were also
present.
Woerndle
Subdivision
Several weeks ago Steven Ware, attorney for Mr. Woerndle,
asked that the P & Z proceed with approval of the Woerndle
Plat. The County P & Z had recommended that the City
annex the property since it abuts the present City line.
Mr. Wooden pointed out that a letter had been sent to
the applicant in April outlining the P & Z concerns. He
felt those concerns are answered by the plat before the
P & Z at present. He pointed out that the overall square
footage of the property (minus roads and the 4% public
use requirement) was sufficient to establish 7 building
sites, even though plotted lots are not 15,000 square feet.
Mr. Ware said there are problems in the area that this
proposal is going to solve. One is that McSkimming Road
comes over onto private land and that problem can be
taken care of by dedicating to the public the 30' from
the center line of the public right-of-way. The City has
a water pumping station on private land and might need a
piece of land to straighten out their access to Highway 82.
Put in a pedestrian right-of-way extending to property line.
We have planned only seven optimum building sites so there
will not be any building on steep slopes or in areas of
water seepage. There will be an easement across the ditch
for pedestrians, and nothing will happen within 10' of
each side of the ditch. These lots are made small to re-
strict the area that the actual buildings can go on. We
have made buffer zones between the houses and roads. We
have provided for the encroachment of one of the buildings
in Aspen Grove Subdivision with an easement for the roof
top.
Fred Wooden said that we could do again here what was done
with the Brownell Subdivision by reviewing the PUD plans
and the Subdivision plans at the same time. It should be
indicated to the applicant this evening that the general
concept meets the approval of the P & Z. For common areas
and right-of-way there is a need for a Home Owners Assoc-
iation. The City Engineer is concerned that Aene Court
remain a public right-of-way for access to Alpine Haus
and the Ferguson property.
Anthos Jordan made a motion to approve the plan in concept
with the following conditions: exclude duplexes; soil
analysis be required for building below the ditch; a ped-
estrian right-of-way along the ditch line be included in
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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
100 Leaves
Regular Meeting
Federal Grant
letter for
Tennis Courts
Interim Bus
System
Planning and Zoning
December 12, 1972
the plan; dedicate the Aene Court cul-de-sac to the City,
after it has been improved by the developer. Vic Goodhard
seconded the motion. All in favor, motion carried.
Vic Goodhard moved that the City Council consider
area for annexation. Seconded by Barbara Lewis.
favor, motion carried.
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Charles Collins said that if the sites are not suitable for
building it should be determined now. Fred Wooden said
this is why we felt it necessary to temper the concept
approval with soil verification on 3 sites.
City/County Planner Bartel reported that the Parks and
Recreation Department has prepared an application for the
grant and aid funds for tennis courts at Islin Park. It
was recommended by the Bureau of Outdoor Recreation that
these applications be reviewed by the local planning com-
mission before they are submitted. The proposed letter was
reviewed. Funding was explained as previously presented to
Council.
Charles Collins moved that the P & Z approve the proposed
tennis courts at Islin Park as submitted for their review.
Bruce Gillis seconded the motion. All in favor, motion
carried.
Herb Bartel presented the Amendment to the City Subdivision
Regulations, to the Commissioners for their consideration
before the public hearing on December 19, 1972.
The City Council had asked that Mr. Marsh and Mr. McCauley
meet with the P & Z concerning this proposal.
Mr. Marsh outlined the preliminary proposal:
They are proposing to form a corporation to supply to the
City of Aspen and to Pitkin County, on a four year con-
tractual basis, a flexible interim mass transit system.
Service would commence by November 1973. There are two
sections: an in-town shuttle and beginnings of a regional
system. The in-town shuttle would consist of specially
constructed 40 passenger vehicles; GMC using propane fuel.
The basic design would resemble a San Francisco cable car.
They would be simple with easy maintenance, and open-sided
design, for quick load and unload. The buses would run
on two intersecting routes with approximately five minutes
headway at peak seasons. Cost estimates are based on 8
vehicles for 18 hours a day for the four peak winter months,
7 vehicles 14 hours a day for the two peak summer months.
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Regular Meeting
Planning and Zoning
December 12, 1972
There would be two airport shuttle buses, of a different
design, servicing the airport 15 times per day in peak
seasons. This is a free bus system. At the end of the
four year service, if an alternative system has not been
operational, that contract eould be renewed on a year to
year basis. There are various options for financing such
a system. The revenue from the 1% sales tax would not even
be enough to support even a minimal system. They offered
some suggestions as to possible revenue: (l) fees from off
street parking (2) parking permit fees (3) airport tax to
price of tickets (4) fees to the price of lift tickets (5)
a coupon system where lodges and restaurants and lifts
pay a share of the costs in proportion to the number of
guests. They are assuming the entire responsibility for
planning and implementation for this system, and are
asking the City to take no risks and put up no capital.
They are asking for a 4 year performance contract. If the
performance standards as drawn up in a contract are not
satisfactory, the City could terminate its involvement with-
in a specified period of time. The first money that the
City would have to pay would be on the first day of operation
of the system. They are talking of a preliminary yearly
cost estimate for a minimum intown system of $409,827. If
there is an expression of interest by the Council and other
bodies, a detailed and accurate proposal could be prepared
within 60 days. A contract for the system to be in oper-
ation by November 1973, has to be signed by March 1973.
It was suggested that they contact the P & Z first. Herb
Bartel said to have a direct evaluation of the P & Z re-
quirements; draft a proposal that the P & Z can look at;
meet with the Transportation Committee for possible routes
to have a more precise idea of the cost involved, by de-
termining the length of the routes.
Vic Goodhard made a motion to adjourn the meeting at 6:30.
Seconded by Jim Adams. All in favor, meeting adjourned.
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Karen Dreager, cording Secretary