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FORM'~ C_ F. HOHKEl B. B. It I.. CO.
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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
100 Leaves
Aspen Planning & Zoning
October 19, 1971
Regular Meeting
Meeting was called
and Anthos Jordan.
Assistant Planner,
John Hayes B'.ail-
road Car
Smuggler Annexation
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Aspen Oak
Oakridge
White Forest
Subdivisions
to order at 5:30 p.m. with Victor
Also present City/County Planner,
Fred Wooden.
Goodhard, James Breasted,
Herb Bartel, and
Mr. J6bn Hayes was present to discuss with the Commission
his request before the Board of Zoning Adjustment relating
to utilization of a Presidential Railroad car as a rest-
aurant on a temporary basis. (See proposal made before the
City Council on September 27, 1971.)
Planning and Zoning Commission stated they had nothing
negative if in fact the Board of Adjustment approval was
for a temporary use permit as a restaurant.
Smuggler Annexation #1 - Commission reviewed the plat sub-
mitted by City/County Planner, Herb Bartel, and Assistant
Planner, Fred Wooden. Mr. Bartel stafed Smuggler No.1
was needed for 1/6th contiguity so that they then could
annex Smuggler No. 2 which includes the hospital and Top
of Aspen. Smuggler No.1 includes the trailer court, some
land owned by McCullough and Luke Anthony property. Vidal
questioned the urgency of the annexation and Mr. Bartel
commented that there was an urgency because the water tap
fee for Top of Aspen would be greatly reduced by being in
the City limits. Vidal questioned why the City does not
have the policy of annexing all the land in an area in-
stead of doing it p~cemeal. Bartel answered that this
particular annexation was being done in this manner in
order to annex the Top of Aspen as soon as possible. Also
other owners would perhaps come in later when they have
development plans for their property. Vidal asked if the
Planning and Zoning Commission should be concerned with
zoning of the annexation at this time. Mr. Bartel stated
not specifically but should be a consideration. Bartel
stated he felt the McCullough property needs improvement
and aidevelopment plan before receiving high density res-
idential zoning as proposed in the Master Plan. Also feel
the Smuggler Trailer Court should eventually be zoned for
mobile home use but that we have no mobile home park zoning
in the City at this time. Goodhard moved to recommend to
the City Council annexation of this area. Seconded by
Jordan. All in favor, motion carried.
Aspen Oak, Oakridge, White Forest Subdivisions - These
subdivisions are within the two mile radius of the City
and require a review by the City Planning and Zoning
Commission for recommendations to the County Planning and
Zoning.
Bartel outlined three basic problems: (1) Is served by a
private road; (2) water; (3) potential natural hazards.
Also pointed out that subdivisions are within the metro
sanitation district and City water service area. Bartel
answered there would not be much detrimental affect be-
cause of low density,in answer to Vidal's question of
what affect there would be on transportation and city
facilities.
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FORM ~i C. F. HOECKEL B. B. It L. CD.
RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
100 Leaves
Regula r Meeting
Transportation
Report
Neighborhood
Shopping Centers
Aspen Planning & Zoning
October 19, 1971
Bartel indicated that he felt the subdivision should not
go in on individual wells because of the problems that
have already occurred in that area. He indicated that
contract was being made with the City about supplying
water to the area. Planning and Zoning indicated they were
satisfied with the comments and conditions as outlined by
Mr. Bartel and request Mr. Bartel refer these comments etc.
to the County Planning and Zoning.
Transportation Report - Bartel indicated he had had a
meeting with the State Highway Engineer and that Mr. Cross
will request permission for crosswalk testing on Main
Street i. e. more unique patterns, diagonal checkerboard
etc. Also indicated that an overhead sign would most likely
be necessary near Garmisch and Main to indicate right turn
only for one lan~and pedestrian and school crossing.
Adams commented that signs seemed unnecessary there. Jordan
asked if any provisions were being made for median strips
on Main Street this winter. Bartel stated paint only at
the Garmisch intersection and sited no available City funds
as the reason for no further improvement plans.
Neighborhood Shopping Centers - Bartel explained that the
City Council wants areas delineated where major growth
areas within the City and sites with a map indicating
three major centers.
(1) Growth area at base of Smuggler Mountain - Neighbor-
hood shopping center located in Railroad C-2 area.
(2) Growth area east end of town between Original and
Roaring Fork River - Neighborhood shopping center location,
1/2 block at Spring and Hyman
(3) Growth area west end of town including Cemetery Lane -
Neighborhood shopping Center location 7th and Bleeker.
Breasted disagreed with site on railroad property and in-
dicated it should be north of the Roaring Fork River within
the growth area indicated.Bartel answered that we are trying
to establish desirable uses for the C-2 area and felt that
the extra time would not be an overriding difficulty. Vidal
stated one should~in the the Cemetery Lane area. He thought
the Cemetery Lane location would be politically difficult
because of the established residential nature of the area.
Breasted thought there should be an additional site east
of town to serve Mountain Valley, etc. Bartel stated that
the intense development necessary to serve a neighborhood
shopping center in that area is not altogether desirable.
Jordan suggested down zoning the C-2 area because of its
excessive permissiveness and potential threat to the
vitality of the downtown area. Commission felt this to be
an important matter and ask that it appear on the next
agenda for consideration. Adams proposed a min~maxi
Neighborhood shopping center concept so that areas that
did not justify the 12,000 square feet neighborhood shopping
center could have a small convenience store location.
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FORM ~i C. F. H DECKEL B. B. II L. CO.
Regular Meeting, Aspen P. & Z., 10/19/71
Commission agreed to discuss the matter further.
Jordan moved to adjourn at 7:03 p.m., seconded by Adams.
All in favor, meeting adjourned.
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