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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19720425 -, RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves FllIIM'O C.F.HOECKELD.II.I'tL.CO. Continued Meeting Aspen Planning & Zoning April 25, 1972 Meeting was reconvened by Chairman Robin Molny at 5:45 p.m. Also present were Anthos Jordan, Chuck Collins, Jim Breasted, City/County Planner, Herb Bartel and Assistant City/County Planner, Fred Wooden. Field Trip The Commission had met at 5:00 p.m. for a field trip to view the site of Lot 3, Hoag Subdivision and the Bibbig property. Bibbig, Stream Margin Request Bibbig, Stream Margin Request - Mrs. Bibbig was present to present to the Commission a plat of the proposed addition and the proximity to the river. She explained to the Commission that she has a Child Care business in her home, that she has been told she can't have children on the second floor, therefore has to build an addition. The proposed addition would be 65 feet from the river bank. Nb comments from the Planning Office on this request; Commission discussed the problem with a trail system along the river in the future. Felt that the trail would definitely be along that side (east) of the river. Chairman Molny read the criteria from the stream margin ordinance: 1. Subject to floods 2. Trail along streams 3. Vegetation removed that would cause erosion 4. Pollution of stream 5. Stream bed not altered Collins moved that the Commission recommend to the Build- in Inspector that he grant a building permit according to the Stream Margin Criteria. Seconded by Breasted. All in favor, motion carried. Lot 3, Hoag Subdivision Lot 3, Hoag Subdivision - Steve Crowley and Tom McAuley were present to discuss this lot with the Commission. City/County Planner, Bartel, repeated a comment from absent Commission member, Vic Goodhard, regarding the width of the road and his concerns about trash trucks, fire trucks, etc, being able to travel the road during the winter when the snow was plowed to the sides, making it even narrower. Breasted suggested a cul de sac as a possible solution. Discussed utility easement, present utilities are down Ute Avenue. Also discussed the possibility of using the old ra ilroad right-of-way for a 30' access road. Crowley and McAuley told the Commission that they hoped to start with 7 apartments and 7 garages. The original plat showed access on old railroad right-of- ......~ RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves FOIU4 'G C. F. HOECKEL D. D.!!. L. ell. Continued Meeting, Aspen P & Z, 4/25/72 way, across BLM land and using part of Lot 3 to have a 60' easement. Molny suggested that it might be possible to avoid alot of problems for both the contractors and the Commission if the contractors went PUD. The Commission felt that a 60 foot access was necessary, considering the parking space per unit and that it would jeopordize access to the top part of Lot 3 as far as service trucks were concerned if it were any narrower. Discussed who was a reliable authority to check the avalanche dangers for Lot 3. City not responsibile for making the findings, only evaluating the avalanch review. Building permit cannot be issued until after the review is evaluated. Discussed building to the sides of the slide area with retaining walls built of pre-stressed concrete to deflect slides, or of building underground garages in the slide area with adequate roofs covered by sod. Concensus of the Commission that a 60 foot right-of-way was necessary. Bartel suggested a split road - one up, one down - which would require a minimum 20 foot right- of-way per each road. Commission asked that the contractors prepare an Outline Development Plan as the next step, showing buildirgs, road; or to prepare several different plans to present to the Commission which could be discussed in a study session. J. R. Williams Annexation J. R. Williams Annexation - Bruce Kistler was present to discuss this annexation with the Commission. Discussed the costs to the City of this annexation. Present R-15 zoning; 3.147 acres in annexation; requesting 62 units in total. Discussed projected road below hospital; access to Silver King Apartments. Collins expressed his concern of the congestion and traffic already at this point and the additional congestion with this annexation. Kistler told the Commission that a strip of land which was the extension of the old river bed would be available for the enlargement of this intersection. Felt that this development would only add 5% to the traffic congestion. Discussed the enlarging of the Neal Avenue bridge, as well as the Hospital bridge. Felt both bridges should be in- -2- - RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves FO~M '0 C. F. HOECKI:L B. B. " L. co. Continued Meeting, Aspen P & z, 4/25/72 cluded in the Improvement District. Collins expressed his feelings that the County should bear most of the responsibility of improvements since the majority of the area north of the river was in the County. Felt it would be better for the City not to annex at this time and let the County solve some of these problems first. Discussed how the Improvement District could be set up so that no one developer would bear the brunt of the cost. Kistler told the Commission that they were asking for less density that the Master Plan calls for. Felt there was a need for this housing project. Again discussed the general problems affected by annex- ation; schools, downtown parking, etc. Bartel asked that the view of Aspen Townsite and Aspen Mountain from the hospital sun room on the south side of the hospital not be ruined by building in front of it. Commission agreed to withhold final approval on sketch plan and annexation unitl the next regular meeting on May 2nd. Breasted suggested that the parking be moved to the back of the area, semi-concealed or landscaped. The Planning Office was asked to work on a recommendation to be made to the Council concerning this annexation. Collins moved to adjourn at 7:45 p.m, seconded by Jordan. All in favor, meeting adjourned. ,~ ~~~<.,~ Lorraine Graves, Secretary