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RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS
1 00 Leaves
Regular Meeting
March 10, 1970
Aspen Planning & Zoning
Meeting was called to order at 5:05 p.m. by Chairman Robin Molny, with William
Tharp, Francis Whitaker, John Gilmore, and James Breasted. Charles Vidal
unexcused.
Minutes
Fences
Floor Area
Attendant Parking
Attendant Parking
Study Session
Open Space and
Quality
Three Dimension
AR Zone
Master Plan
Densities
Breasted moved to approve the minutes of February lOth
as prepared and mailed by the Secretary. Seconded by
Whitaker. All in favor, motion carried.
Tharp moved to approve the minutes of March 3rd as
prepared and mailed by the Secretary. Seconded by Gilmore.
All in favor, motion carried.
Tom Wells arrived.
Clayton Meyring's recommendations were read by Chairman
Molny as follows:
1.) Definition for fence height as outlined in the City's
first ordinance.
2.) Request the City include a definition of floor area
in the ordinance and also the regulation on attendant
parking is unenforcable.
Commission request attendant parking be added to the
Commission's list of committents. Commission also request
the next agenda include review of the committments.
Chairman Molny stated the City Council has requested a
study session with the Commission to discuss the density,
open space ordinance. City Council present.
Councilman Scott questioned the Commission on what they
felt this oTdinance would accomplish.
Commission stated open space and quality. This is one of
the committments made by some of the candidates running
for office last November. <
Councilman Walls suggest the Commission consider open
space in 3 dimension rather than two. Three dimension
would provide for interior courts or gardens. What the
Planning and Zoning is proposing will not control the
number of people even with the reduced floor area. Zoning
ordinances design the buildings, and is the end product
going to be what is desired?
Commission member Wells stated the Commission has thought
about three dimension open space. Feel and agreed this is
not going to take care of all the problems but will put
Aspen on a scale and this is the first step. Do not feel
anyone will be seriously hurt by this.
Mr. Whitaker stated there have been two long standing
problems.
#1- In 1955 the City was zoned without a master plan, AR
zone is a major concern of what would happen if built to
its capacity.
#2- In 1966 Commission approved the Master Plan, density
was doubled by the City Council without planning. Need to
go back to the 1966 densities and reduction of the floor
area, reduce the size of the buildings and provide open
space. Mr. Whitaker stated he was conderned about the 25%
requirement of open space and if this might not be too
much as relates to small pieces of property. From a
personal standpoint of owning 6,000 square feet cannot
meet the 25% requirement of open space. Under the open
space requirements of the ordinance this should include
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"provided the however the MINIMUM dimension".
AR Zones
Councilman Walls suggest the AR zones be studied relative
to perhaps reclassifying part of the area, eliminating
some uses in certain areas.
Density,
Open Space
Councilman Comcowich stated he did not want this ordinance
construed as an interim ordinance, should do this
ordinance as well as it can be done. Feel the incentive
ordinance would solve all the points which this ordinance
will solve. Fear in this ordinance you will not half the
number of people but will half the number of parking
spaces. Parking requirements are the same.
Councilman Griffin stated he did not want to see any
consideration given to going beyond the present height
limit. Not worried about the parking.
Mr. Wells commented raising the height with maximum
development would give us a town of people way beyond
our imagination. Do not think will be forced to go up,
not designing for that many people. One building, such
as Aspen Square could have an impact on the town. That
is what I feel is the emergency.
Chairman Molny read a letter sent to the City Council
last year at the time of the incentive ordinance proposal
requesting Council take more in depth study of Planning
and Zoning recommendations, again make this request.
Planning and Zoning is now doing what was requested of the
previous City Council and that is to require open space
with the present height limits. Will take 4 years to
review the entire zoning ordinance. All Commission members
agree we are trying to eliminate congestion, stop block
buster building and this is a step along the way. Parking
problem will be studied separ~tely. With the incentive
ordinance proposal, Planning and Zoning was playing
planner, did not consider calculations of how many people
will have in an area. When a planner is available will
study the AR-l zone.
Discussed rushing of plans and degree of plans which must
be submitted. Clayton Meyring stated if plans show that
they meet the building code and other ordinance, his office
would have the accept the plans. Would not have to be
complete working drawings.
Mr. Hans Gramiger stated this ordinance makes it impossible
to build a hotel downtown. Mr. Molny reported hotels would
fit nicely in the C-2 zone along with PUD.
Robert Lewis - Mr. Lewis was present and request author-
ization from the Planning and Zoning Commission to repre-
sent the City in Washington, D. C., free of charge, in
investigating what grants are available, how long they
take and what subjects they cover as relates to trans-
portation. Reported Dwight Shellman a few months ago,
while being in Washington, D. C., made a few inquiries as
relates to transportation, would like to make a succeeding
request.
The following names were submitted to Councilman Walls of
possible planners; Dick Veasey, Bob Trenka, Allen Plomquist.
James Ranfianz, Paul Kraman.
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Commission instructed Chairman Molny to write such a
letter of authorization for Mr. Lewis to represent the
Planning and Zoning Commission free of charge.
Tharp moved to adjourn at 6:45 p.m., seconded by Gilmore.
All in favor, me1cting adj ourned.
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