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HomeMy WebLinkAboutminutes.apz.19690408 r- . RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves 1150 C.F,HOEnEL8.B.& L. co. Regular Meeting Aspen Planning & Zoning April 8, 1969 Meeting was called to order by the Vice Chairman at 5:10 p.m. with the following members present: Vice Chairman Robin Molny Mayor Robert Barnard Councilman John Benninghoff Dale Mars Yvan Tache Building Inspector Clayton Meyring Absent: Chairman George Heneghan - excused Francis Whitaker - excused Minutes Minutes - There were no corrections to the minutes of March 25th and April 2nd, they stand approved. Metro Sanit. Dist. Metro Sanitation District Request - Mayor Barnard reported it was stated at the County Commissioners meeting held on April 7th by Chuck Fothergil that the first phase of the Metro Plant will only be able to handle 7,000 people. Also stated this makes the plant even more questionable since there are already committments for hook up of 4,000, leaving only 3,000 additional that could be accommodated by Phase I. Benninghoff stated there were quite a few people surprised that the intention is to use the present plant at its full capacity plus the Metro Plant. Understood that the present sanitation plant would be discontinued immediately upon the operation of the Metro Plant. Tache questioned how the two plants, with the present plans, could handle the increase in population at peak season when there are 15,000 people in town. Vice Chairman Molny stated that he had talked to the firm of McLaughlin and obtained the following projected figures: Take a tourist as 3/4's of a resident because he does not use the amount of water and put it back into sewage disposal as a full time resident does. 8300 tourist beds in the Metro and Aspen Sanitation Districts at the present time - 6100 people. City population at the last census by the City in 1968 was 2081 permanent residents. 1,000 transient service personnel and the assumption of an additional 1,000 tourists in the season of 1969 and 1970. Mayor Barnard left to obtain his figures. Robin Mblny stated the Metro plant as proposed will handle N? 30 ~ .. RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves MIO C.F,HOECKfLB.B.lll.CO. Reg. Meeting, P & z, 4/8/69, continued. Metro Sanit.Dist. 7,000 people, Aspen Sanitation District will handle 5,000 people. Metro plant over the last 4 years has been raised from 6,000 to 7,000. Plant is designed for an eventual 47,000 people in stages. Molny stated further that he questioned these figures as he felt in a tourist operation you pretty much have to have a 2 to 1 ratio. You need one service personnel (transient or citizen) to handle every 2 tourists. Also reported he had talked with County Commissioner Tom Sardy and the County Commissioners are dedicated to going ahead. He reported that it looks to the Commissioners that the plant is 200,000 under capacity, but to not let them go ahead, would be 900,000 under capacity. Mr. Vroom had related to Mr. Molny that the Metro District had not taken any bids on any plant of any size. Benningho ff this time. engineering questioned if Phase II could be initiated at Mr. Fothergil stated it would require additional and planning to get into Phase II. Mayor Barnard returned and read the following statement: As of this date, the projected load on both sanitation plants appears to be as follows: (the City Engineer has done some projected studies), these are the things which are beigg built or plans that have been approved to be built. There are under construction or in some stage of planning 276 units within the City, approximately 200 in the Metro Sanitation District outside the city limits. These units alone project an additional load of approximately 1100 persons. That coupled with the present permanent population of the City and the guest population, totals approximately 13,700 people. The combination of both plants as relates to building and treatment within the State law, that means 90 BOD, is limited to 13,000. So this is the way we see it and I would strenously object to having a guest considered as 3/4's of a permanent resident, that is nonsense. Vice Chairman Molny stated that hook ups would be over a period of time, not everyone would be hooking up at the beginning. Barnard stated that Administrator Wurl related to him that out of the 7,000 which the Metro plant will be able to handle in Phase I, there are already 4,000 committed. Mars questioned how magy more people could be handled with Phase II. Mr. Fothergil reported as many as need to up to the designed capacity of the plant wnich is 47,000. Barnard questioned how Mr. Fothergil reported the engineers felt the big the trunk line pipe he thought it was 24". 24" pipe would be large would be. Also stated engugh to N? 31 - - .. RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves MID C.F.1l0ECKELB.a.& L. CO. Reg. Meeting, P & z, 4/8/69, continued. Metro Sanit. Dist. handle the 47,000. Benninghoff questioned if the Metro Plant eventually would be phased out and a larger plant built further down. Mr. Fothergil reported this is not the plant. Benninghoff reported that in his travels he had talked to several cities around the country and it seems that wherever it is possible plants are being combined into one plant. Benninghoff questioned that when the phased out, will the one 24" line be everything down to the Metro plant. that it would. sanitation plant is able to handle Mr. Fothergil reported Mars reported that perhaps further engineering opinions should be considered, Roger disagrees with the philosophy. Barnard suggest that perhaps the Regional Service Authority should take a look at this situation on a regional basis. Discussed whether additional land would be needed and the problems in gaining the needed right-of-way etc. Mr. Fothergil explained that additional land would not be required. It was reported that an agreement had been reached on the right-of-way, but papers have not been signed. Mars suggested another sanitation engineer be retained to determine if a 24" trunk line would be sufficient. Barnard reported the Regional Service Authority would be discussing this on Wednesday. Barnard made a motion that the Planning and Zoning Commission write a letter to Hud saying they disapproved the plans of the Metro Sanitation District. Seconded by Tache. Roll call vote - Barnard aye; Tache aye; Benninghoff aye; Mars nay; Molny nay. Motion carried. Mr. Fothergil request a certified copy of the minutes of the Commission of March 26, 1968, when a letter was authorized. Vice Chairman Molny granted this request and instructed the Secretary to prepare the certified copies. Commission agreed to permit discussion following the second on the motion. Molny stated that he felt it was not in the public interest to close the door on the$400,000 which could be obtained from Hud. Barnard stated that perhaps more money would be spent this way then following another route. Roll call vote - Barnard aye; Tache aye; Benninghoff aye; Mars nay; Molny nay. Motion carried. N? 32 II ~o C. f. HOECK EL O. B. Il L. CO. - RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Reg. Meeting, P & Z, 4/8/69, continued. Janss Subdivision Janss Subdivision - Final Plat - Commission rev,iewed past action by the Commission as relates to this subdivision. Capital Impr. Planner Signs Meeting Time West Aspen Co. Zoning Service Yards & fencing Mars moved to approve the final sumdivison plat for Janss Subdivision and authorize the Vice Chairman of the Commission to sign same. Seconded by Barnard. Roll call vote - Mars aye; Benninghoff aye; Tache aye; Barnard aye; Molny aye. Capital Improvements - Administrator Wurl submitted to the Commission copies of the program covering a 20 year period in the amount of 17 million. Administrator Wurl request the Commission review the program and consider recommending to the City Council that the Master Plan be amended to include the capital improvements program. Wurl also reported incorporated in this program are some projects which the Regional Service Authority will be doing. Barnard reported as times change, the Master Plan should be reviewed and amended. Planner - Vice Chairman Molny questioned what is happening as relates to the hiring of a regional planner. Barnard reported he thought the Regional Service Authority would be discussing this on Wednesday. Non-conforming signs - Administrator Wurl reported the Planning and Zoning had put this item in the hands of the City Administrator and Building Inspector. Also stated that to date he had not seen a list of violations which were to be submitted to the City by King Woodward. Secretary Graves gave to Administrator Wurl a list which was received by the Building Inspectors office. Administrator Wurl and Building Inspector to handle. Mr. Jim Pitts of Grant and Company was introduced, will be attending the Planning and Zoning meetings. Meeting Time - Barnard moved to revert back to 5:00 p.m. for all Planning and Zoning meetings. Seconded by Tache. Roll call vote - Molny aye; Mars aye; Barnard aye; Tache aye; Benninghoff aye. Secretary Graves brought to the Commissions attention, that a public hearing was held on the West Aspen Company Annexation zoning, but the zoning was never established for this annex- ation. Zoning map showing the County zoning of R-15 was submi tted. Barnard moved to zone the West Aspen Company Annexation R-15 and recommend same to the City Council. Seconded by Mars. Roll call vote - Barnard aye; Benninghoff aye; Tache aye; Mars aye; Molny aye. Service Yards and Fencing - Barnard stated he felt the fencing of service yards should be initiated for the C-C and C-l zones. N? 33 ... MIa C.F,HOECI(ELB.B.&L.CO. - RECORD OF PROCEEDINGS 100 Leaves Service Yards fencing Post Office Reg. Meeting, P & Z, 4/8/69, continued. Also stated should require fencing with the exception of maintained trash containers. Barnard moved to have the City instruct City Attorney Kern to draft an ordinance pertaining to the establishment of service yard fencing in the C-C and C-l Districts. Seconded by Mars. Roll call vote - Benninghoff aye; Tache aye; Barnard aye; Mars aye; Molny aye. Agreed to continue with the definition of a service yard as is presently written in the zoning code. Post Office Request - Commission agreed to table this item. Barnard moved to adjourn at 6:30 p.m., seconded by Benninghoff. All in favor, meeting adjourned. ...~... '. ..-j '-",j'>""'" , L-I;onai~, .~ Secretary N? 34