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FORM ~I C. F. HOECI(EL B. B. Ii L. co.
Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning & Zoning
April 23, 1968
Meeting was called to order by the Chairman at 5:05 p.m. with the following
members present:
Chairman William Tharp
Mayor Robert Barnard
Councilman John Benninghoff
Joel Hartmeister
Also Present:
Building Inspector Roger Mahnke
Planner Jerry Brown
Absent:
Francis Whitaker - Excused
George Heneghan - Unexcused
Yvan Tache was present - new appointment by the Mayor and took his seat
at the Commission table.
MINUTES
Councilman Benninghoff made a motion to
as mailed. Seconded by Mayor Barnard.
Hartmeister aye; Benninghoff aye; Tharp
approve the minutes of April 9th
Roll call vote - Barnard aye;
aye; T ache aye.
PUBLIC HEARING
Chairman Tharp opened the public hearing on zoning of the Adkins Property
and West Aspen Company Property. Adkins property recently annexed to the
City and West Aspen Company in the process of being annexed.
No one present representing the Adkins Property. Inspector Mahnke pointed
out to the Commission the only thing on the property is the Adkins residence
and the Master Plan calls for R-15 zoning which is what theCity is proposing.
Barnard made a motion to zone the annexed Adkins property R-15 as per the
Master Plan. Seconded by Benninghoff. Roll call vote - Hartmeister aye;
Tache aye; Benninghoff aye; Barnard aye; Tharp aye.
Public Hearing on zoning of the West Aspen Company. Represented by Paul
Rodman, President of the West Aspen Company.
Mr. Rodman submitted larger maps showing the total picture of the area.
Request zoning of AR-l for the entire area which is being annexed. Would
like to build low cost apartment housing which there seemed to be a short-
age of in Aspen. Submitted a questionnaire showing the ideas of what the
Company has in mind to build.
Jerry Brown pointed out the Commission should consider the set backs. County
requires 200' set back from the highway. Plans show 35' set back on the
County road and 100' set back from the highway.
Barnard made a motion to table a decision on this request for further
study. Seconded by Hartmeister. Roll call vote - Tache aye; Barnard aye;
Benninghoff aye; Hartmeister aye; Tharp aye.
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Reg. Meeting, P & z, 4/23/68, continued.
Public hearing terminated.
COMMERCIAL CORE ZONE
Jerry Brown, Planer, submitted a proposal for a commercial core zone.
Area including: Main Street to Durant and Spring to Mill.
Commission reviewed proposal, proposal read by Chairman Tharp.
Discussed including parking regulations as discussed at the study session
of commercial uses in the C-C zone could lease parking in the C-l District,
accommodations in the C-l would have to provide their own parking and
any other commercial use in the C-l zone could lease parking.
Jerry Brown pointed out he had not gone into a parking and leaseing
arrangement on the proposal at this time, rather wait and see how this
concept is accepted.
Yvan Tache left the Chambers.
Barnard made a motion to schedule a public hearing on the
Zone for May 14th at 5:00 p.m., seconded by Hartmeister.
Hartmeister aye; Barnard aye; Benninghoff aye; Tharp aye.
Commercial Core
Roll call vote -
BUILDING REVIEW
Clariification on
by Fred Hibberd.
from the Board of
several buildings
theheight provisions in the tourist zone was requested
Mr. Hibberd pointed out that a variance can be requested
Adjustment but when Title XI was drafted there existed
over the height limitation due to sloping grades.
Jerry Brown pointed out the reason for requiring a variance from the Board
of Adjustment is because of blocking of neighboring property owners view.
Ordinance was drafted to catch most of the situations.
Chairman Tharp request Mr. Hibberd contact Jerry Brown and the Bui~ding
Inspector for a clarification.
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Tipple Inn - 2 Projects - Duplex and 2 Condominium Units.
Inspecmr Mahnke reported the projects meet all requirements except for the
height. Requirement is 25' and plans show 35'.
Commission reviewed plans with Architect Ftitz Benedic~.
Hartmeister made a motion
because of non-compliance
vote - Tache aye; Barnard
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Tom Daly - Revised set of
this be referred
with the height.
aye; Hartmeister
to the Board of Adjustment
Seconded by Barnard. Roll
aye; Benninghoff aye; Tharp
call
aye.
plans, addition of 6 condominium units.
Commission reviewed plans. Inspector Mahnke reported the plans meet all
requirements.
Barnard pointed out if a C-C zone is created, no condominiums will be per-
mitted in this zone. They will be allowed in the existing C-l zone.
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Reg. Meeting, P & z, 4/23/68, continued.
Hartmeister made a motion to accept Tom Daly's revised plans. Seconded by
Barnard. Roll call vote - Benninghoff aye; Tache aye; Hartmeister aye;
Barnard aye; Tharp aye.
Mayor Barnard left Commission Chambers.
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Aspen Alps - 11 units
Mayor Barnard returned.
Inspector Mahnke reported there is a problem on the height with this set
of plans. Over the requirement. Commission discussed the road which
services this area. Barnard pointed out the road should meet City standards,
presently too narrow.
Barnard made a motion that the Commission reject the plambecause it is
over the fueight limitation and the flow of traffic due to the narrow road.
Seconded by Hartmeister. Roll call vote - Tache aye; Bennigghoff aye;
Barnard aye; Hartmeister aye; Tharp aye.
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Norris Taylor Furniture Shop - Enclose patio for office space.
Inspector Mahnke reported no problems. Commission reviewed plans.
Barnard made a motion to approve the plans for Norris Taylor. Seconded by
Benninghoff. Roll call vote - Barnard aye; Benninghoff aye; Tharp aye;
Tache aye; Hartmeister aye.
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Crystal Palace - 2 story addition to the east of the building.
Discussed access to the parking to the back of the lot. Inspector Mahnke
reported all requirements had been met.
Barnard left Commission Chambers.
Benninghoff made a motion to
Palace. Seconded by Tache.
aye; Tache aye; Tharp aye.
approve the plans submitted by the Crystal
Roll call vote - Benninghoff aye; Hartmeister
Ute Subdivision - Jim Blanning was present and request the Commission
schedule a public hearing on Ute Subdivision.
Mayor Barnard returned.
Attorney Bob VerShure was present and informed the Commission the land
Mr. Balnning is requesting a public hearing on is presently under litigation.
Mr. Blanning is claiming title which he does not have.
Benninghoff made a motion the Commission reject any request or consideration
at this time until title to the property is established. Seconded by
Barnard. Roll call vote - Hartmeister aye; Tache aye; Tharp aye; benninghoff
aye; Barnard aye.
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Hodge-Oliver Project - ~oel Hartmeister, Commission member made the following
statement:
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"At the regular meeting of the P & Z on the 9th of April, I raised the
question of whether we had handled the matter of the Hodge-Oliver
application for a building permit in a proper and legal manner. I now
again raise that question.
The P & Z has spelled out for its guide lines in the City Ordinance known
as Title XI in 11-1-11 the Chapter known as Building Review. In this
Chapter it very clearly sets forth the duties of the members of the P & Z
and how this is to take place.
It states as follows: The P & Z Commission shall review all proposals for
new construction in the C-l, C-2, AR-l and AR-2 Zones in the City of
Aspen with the purpose of conserving the value of the neighboring property
and encouraging the most appropriate use of land.
The Commission shall also review all proposed construction in these areas
to determine its effect on the safety, health and general welfare of the
City of Aspen.
The Ordinance goes on to state. At least 30 days prior to the date which
an application for a building permit will be accepted by the City of Aspen,
the applicant shall submit the following:
1. A plot plan
2. Floor plan
3. The elevation drawings of the proposed construction
4. These shall be submitted in duplicate
This is what is required for preliminary review.
These drawings shall show the complete development of the proposed project.
Some other matters are then dealt with in this Chapter and it concludes
with the following: If such drawings are found to be incomplete, they shall
be rejected.
Now we have on three different occasions seen different proposals from the
Hodge-Oliver people and it is my contention that they as yet have not
complied with the requirements of our ordiance in so far as having furnished
us with the required plans and specifications. We acted illegally in voting
on a matter in extreme haste as the third plan which showed only the parking
areas and the first floor. Was not a complete plan and by the instructions
in the ordinance we must reject because of the nature of the incomplete
plans."
Chairman Tharp questioned Inspector Mahnke if a permit could be issued on
any of the plans approved by the Commission today as submitted for building
review.
Inspector Mahnke reported no he could not, as they were not final plans.
Hartmeister made a motion that the Commission reconsider the matter dealt
with at the April 9th meeting and reject the vote taken in the Hodge-Oliver
application.
Chairman Tharp stated he disagreed with the motion, not sure the motion is
proper since at the time approval was given, the then City Attorney and
Building Inspector felt that the decision was a proper one. Also their
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Reg. Meeting, P & z, 4/23/68, continued.
seemed to be a difference of opinion on the interpretation of building
review as to its requirements.
Chairman Tharp stated that he felt a legal op~n~on should be obtained as
t to whether a previous decision of the Commission can be reversed or
rejected and on the interpretation as to completness of plans for building
review.
Motion was seconded by Barnard.
Chairman Tharppointed out the vote on this motion would be based on the
opinion of legal interpraation.
Roll call vote - Barnard aye; Bennirghoff abstain; Tache abstain;
Hartmeister aye; Tharp nay.
Hartmeister maee a motion to adjourn at 7:05 p.m., seconded by Barnard.
All in favor, motion carried.
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rraine Graves, Secretary
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