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FORM \~ C. F. HOECK EL B. B. a: L. CO.
Regular Meeting
Aspen Planning & Zoning
September 13, 1967
Meeting was called to order at 5:20 p.m. with the following members
present:
Chairman Tom Benton - Presiding
Mayor Robert Barnard
Sam Lum
Francis Whitaker
George Heneghan
Francis Whitaker made a motion to approve the minutes of September 6th
as mailed. Seconded by George Heneghan. All in favor, motion carried.
Chairman Benton opened the Public Hearing on creation of a C-lA District
by reading the Notice of Public Hearing as published in the Aspen Times.
Also read by Chairman Benton proposed amendment to the zoning ordinance
creating the District, and outlined the area on the zoning map.
Chairman Benton opened the meeting up to the public and request to hear
from only those persons who lived in the City.
Elizabeth Callahan - Do not live in the City but within 300' and
opposed to the change in zoning.
Mayor Barnard - Should not be a part of the record since they are not in
the City, 300 feet has nothing to do with it. You are one who has been
fighting the annexation and your opinion should not be a part of the record.
Clinton Sampson - In favor of it. Do not like service stations being
subject to the Board of Adjustment.
Chairman Benton - Service Stations are always subject to the Board of
Adjustment. Have to consider the hazards, public safety, hazards to
pedestrians, storage of fuel, would be a mistake to take it away from the
Board of Adjustment. There could be a hardship in the location of the
station.
Mayor Barnard - There is a limit on the grounds of whether to grant or deny
it.
Clinton Sampson - Have 5 lots involved in Block 98. Talked to Bob Smith
next door who has 2 lots and he is in favor.
Chairman Benton - It is important the amount of property a station can
occupy. Is not specified in the ordinance, because of some of the present
stations. Jerry Brown, Planner, feels having enough room is very important.
Don Swales - Is there any other place in the City now where a station can be
built.
Chairman Benton - Only in the C-2 District. We had considerable property in
the C-2 when the North Annexation went through. Now that it is going for
election, we only have a small parcel of C-2 land.
Hans Gramiger - Represent W. O. Jones on 2 lots in the area, that is affected.
They are in favor.
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Reg. Meeting, P & Z, Sept. 13, 1967, a:mtinued.
Ken Moore - This zone change tends to put more traffice on Main Street.
With the court house and church there is traffic hazard there now.
Zoni~g should try to alleviate the congestion not add to it.
Chairman Benton - This District is based on the highway going down to
Original and up Original. Jerry Brown has been making traffic counts for
the last 2 weeks so that more information will be available to us as to
traffic problems in this area.
There being no further comments, Chairman Benton closed the public hearing
on the C-lA District and opened the public hearing on notification to
property owners on an appeal to the Board of Adjustment. Stated as the
ordinance exists no notice is required to anyone. Feel that notice should
be given to be fair to those persons involved.
Would like to amend the ordinance so that all property ownes within 300'
of the request for appeal would have to be notified by legal notice.
Francis Whitaker - Board of Adjustment agrees with this but have no power
to act, although the Board of Adjustment has amended their by-laws to
take careof this.
Hans Gramiger - Good idea.
Elizabeth Callahan - I am within 100' of this, but outside of the City
limits, am I allowed to be notified.
Chairman Benton - Yes
Chairman Benton closed the public hearing due to no further comments.
Sidwalks - Mr. John Benninghoff stated he had some petitions to present
from people in the R-6 District and they are against any sidewalks. If
sidewalks areput in they would like them put in against the curb. Problem
with sidewalks of keeping them up especially for the non-residents. Do
not think sidewalks are needed in the R-6 District.
Chairman Benton informed Mr. Benninghoff sidewalks are not a problem to
be taken care of by the Planning and Zoning but the City Council. Can only
recommend to the City Council if asked to by the City Council.
Mayor Barnard stated he would be definately opposed to a sidewalk next
to the curb due to having to cut down many trees.
Administrator Wurl commented figured on the basis of sidewalks against the
curb that 43 trees would have to be cut down. If the sidewalks were put
in 15' from the curb would require taking down only 5 trees.
Chairman Benton suggest a sidewalk that went in and out in order to miss
the trees.
Francis Whitaker made a motion that the Planning and Zoning ask the City
Council if the Council would like the Planning and Zoning to make a
recommendation and study the alternates to the present ordinance or the one
suggested by Mr. Benninghoff. Seconded by Donald Copelin. All in favor,
motion carried.
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Reg. Meeting, P & Z, Sept. 13, 1967, continued.
Violations - Chairman Benton submitted pictures of the parking violations
at the Chateau Aspen. Cars parked on City property.
Discussed the need and requirements of a sidewalk at the Chateau Aspen.
Attorney Kern stated he was unaware of the violation on parking until
Administrator Wurl pointed out the problem. Also stated he would notify
the owners that they will have to be parked parallel to the building
rather than angle.
Chairman Benton pointed out at the time the plans were approved the
plans showed 21 spaces, now providing only 14 spaces.
Attorney Kern stated since the meeting where this was discussed and 0ther
plans were approved on a 2 for 3 ratio, assumed that this was acceptable.
Also at which time requested the Planning and Zoning show consistency
on the problem.
Chairman Benton pointed out that it is assumed that there are 21 units
at the Chateau Aspen and that the 14 spaces required are not bing provided.
Marvin Reynolds, Building Inspector, stated he was not certain a cer~ificate
of occupancy had been issued.
Attorney Kern stated he was sure a request had been filed with the Building
Inspector for the 2 for 3 ratio.
Chairman Benton request to see the request for 2 for 3 spaces and also a
determination from the Building Inspector of the number of units in the
Chateau Aspen.
Architect for the Chateau Aspen stated the owners would probably be willing
to put in a sidewalk.
Mayor Barnard made a motion the Planning and Zoning request Mr. Wallen put
in a sidewalk on both sides of the Chateau Aspen as per City Specifications.
Seconded by Francis Whitaker. All in favor,motion carried.
Chairman Benton reported there is a sign violation at the Agate Lodge.
Sign stating All Credit Cards Accepted, plus Agate sign.
Building Review - Chateau Chaumont Lodge and Chateau DuMont Lodge, Block
107, Lots A, B, C, D, and F, G, H, I - 2 buildings.
Ma~in Reynolds, Building Inspector reported there are 24 units in each
building which require 16 parking spaces and plans show 16 spaces per build-
ing.
Chairman Benton questioned if the building would be used as a lodge or
apartments.
Architect for the buildings pointed out the plans were laid out to match
the zoning requirements for a lodge and have provided 2 for 3 parking.
Discussed the ratius on the plans for accessibility of spaces in front.
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Reg. Meeting, P & Z, Sept. 13, 1967, continued.
Francis Whitaker suggest taking 2 spaces from in front of the building and
putting them on the alley.
Francis Whitaker made a motion the plans be approved with the recommendation
that 2 parking spaces on Durant be transferred to the alley. Motion died
for lack of second.
Mayor Barnard and Chairman Benton stated this was definitely plans for an
apartment building. Chairman Benton asked where the office would be.
Architect stated it woul d be one of the apartments. All transactions will
be done in the City and be handled by a manager that takes care of all the
units.
Attorney Kern recommended the Commission not table the plans, would be
unfair to Mr. Wallen.
MaYQr.Barnard made
for further study.
carried.
a motion that the commission table this set of plans
Seconded by Donald Copelin. All in favor, motion
Mayor Barnard made a motion the Commission instruct the Secretary to prepare
a Resolution on the C-lA zone and ask Council to approve the zoning change
as per the map. Seconded by Sam Lum.
Francis Whitaker pointed out at the last Board of Adjustment meeting on a
request for variance for service station by Clint Sampson and W. O. Jones
was rather surprised at the ppposition.
Mayor Barnard pointed out at present there is no place in the City where
gasoline stations are allowed.
Chairman Benton stated he had talked with Jerry Brown, Planner, even though
it is changed to C-lA it would still have to go to the Board of Adjustment
and also feels that this area is the only logical location for this district.
Also that a minimum of 9000 sq.ft. for a gasoline station.
Mayor Barnard stated it should be a requirement that the station be backed up
to the alley.
All in favor, motion carried.
Subdivision - Chairman Benton pointed out the County has approved a sub-
division for the area out by the golf course without previously coming to
the City planning and zoning whichis required by State Statutes. Marvin
Reynolds to check out and report at the next meeting.
Mayor Barnard made a motion that the Planning and Zoning recommend to the
City Council notification to property owners within 300' of the area to be
appealed be adopted. Seconded by Francis Whitaker. All in favor, motion
carried.
Illustrated News request the Planning and Zoning change their meeting date
to Tuesdays or Thursdays in order for the newspapers to report fresh news.
Aspen Times suggest the Illustrated News change their printing date. Sam
Lum made a motion to change the meeting date to Tuesday at 5:00 p.m., second-
ed by George Heneghan. All i~~vor, mX motion carried.
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Reg. Meeting, P & Z, Sept. 13, 1967, continued.
Sam Lum made a motion to adjourn at 6:55 p.m., seconded by George Heneghan.
All in favor, motion carried., meeting adjou~ned.
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----- Lorraine Graves, Secretary
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